How bad is the bloat with NPP?

[Swole_2112]

Soon I will be taking 100mg eod of npp. How much bloat could I expect from that dosage? Less or more bloat than 1g/wk of sust? Also, in addition to the npp, I'll also be running 500mg/wk of sust and 600mg/wk of eq. Thoughts?

 

[jetty]

I'm just curious, but why would you run NPP with a long ester blends like Sust? Why even bother with EOD injections you should just run Deca or EQ with that and save your ass from being a pin cushion. Ditch the Sust and add some Prop instead and you'll have less bloat. AE's will obviously help also.

 

[Swole_2112]

I'm just curious, but why would you run NPP with a long ester blends like Sust? Why even bother with EOD injections you should just run Deca or EQ with that and save your ass from being a pin cushion. Ditch the Sust and add some Prop instead and you'll have less bloat. AE's will obviously help also.

I had heard that the likely hood of developing any nandralone sides were less with npp than deca. Besides, I've already spent the money and got the stuff. So, let's just work with what compounds I do have.

 

[gsxr_jason]

on week 5 of sus and npp seeing gains and as far as i can tell no bloat yet

 

[macrophage69alpha]

some people bloat bad on NPP, others not much at all.

the only way to tell is to try it.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I'm just curious, but why would you run NPP with a long ester blends like Sust? Why even bother with EOD injections you should just run Deca or EQ with that and save your ass from being a pin cushion. Ditch the Sust and add some Prop instead and you'll have less bloat. AE's will obviously help also.

EQ perhaps. Wont ever reccomend nandrolone decanoate to a first timer, because if there are issues you want to be able to drop it...

see some merit in your prop suggestion, though you can run into some troughs, even with EOD's without a longer test ester. Though that varies.

 

[mattrich]

I'm just curious, but why would you run NPP with a long ester blends like Sust? Why even bother with EOD injections you should just run Deca or EQ with that and save your ass from being a pin cushion. Ditch the Sust and add some Prop instead and you'll have less bloat. AE's will obviously help also.

some people might want to use npp for the 1st 5 or 6 weeks of cycle just as a kickstart until the sust starts to work properly?

 

[Bozwell]

I'm just curious, but why would you run NPP with a long ester blends like Sust? Why even bother with EOD injections you should just run Deca or EQ with that and save your ass from being a pin cushion. Ditch the Sust and add some Prop instead and you'll have less bloat. AE's will obviously help also.

I love doing sust and npp eod my fave base for any cycle

 

[Bozwell]

to answer you question I get no bleat from 350mgg ew and a little 525mg ew
going to do 700mg-1000mg ew some time soon..love npp

 

[Swole_2112]

Ok, I'll just see how I react.

 

[bmcadoo44]

i am in week 10 of prop/npp/winstrol....... no bloat at all or physical sides.

 

[jetty]

I love doing sust and npp eod my fave base for any cycle

Sust will bloat you like any other Test. Some people just don't bloat all that bad but others like me with higher BF% do. The guy said he wanted to control bloat and I just told him Prop would be a better choice. I'm about to do a Prop/EQ/Var cycle in a few weeks myself. I've ran Omnas and Sust. myself and see so particular benefit over Test E or Cyp myself. That's just my experience though.

 

[Bruce]

i think jetty is trying to say that you can bang out a quick 8 weeker with prop and npp and get fast good results. lean mass you will add without bloat. now if you do a long ester with the npp you are waiting longer. however, i see nothing wrong with using npp as a kicker instead of a harsh oral.

the only thing that would bloat me in that mix is the sust.
i ran npp at 75mg eod with 800mg of eq and no test, just proviron. my libido was awesome and the synergy was great. i used the npp as the eq cleared. i'd run
300mg sust ew 1-16
600mg eq ew 1-14
npp 75mg eod 1-6 12-16
i'd personally add prop for 12-16 and drop sust, so the pct comes after they are all clear. also i'd run proviron 50mg ed with it. you npp never bloats me nor does eq just long estered test. run 20mg aromasin throughout and you should be ok

 

[macrophage69alpha]

i am in week 10 of prop/npp/winstrol....... no bloat at all or physical sides.

winstrol is a likely factor in that.

 

[bigrand]

I get fat on NPP (especially after i stopped its use), i got big on deca without the girly fat....dont know why the difference.

 

[mikey007]

The first few times i did Deca (old Mexican stuff) I got really ripped and big. Ever since I changed brands it acts more like a test than the Deca I did years ago. I heard rumors that lots of labs just use Test in their Decas. Could this be true?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

The first few times i did Deca (old Mexican stuff) I got really ripped and big. Ever since I changed brands it acts more like a test than the Deca I did years ago. I heard rumors that lots of labs just use Test in their Decas. Could this be true?

more likely frequent exposure to nandrolone, other androgens and estrogens, as well as age impacts it effects.

progestins are a wierd bunch.

 

[kbrkbr]

The first few times i did Deca (old Mexican stuff) I got really ripped and big. Ever since I changed brands it acts more like a test than the Deca I did years ago. I heard rumors that lots of labs just use Test in their Decas. Could this be true?

Are you talking about those organon redijects? Iused those along with organon sus redijects for my first cycle and it was pure bliss.