Honestly - How can people still like R Kelly knowing he likes Child Porn?

[CipherLock]

Wasn't he found guilty or something? Yet he still reaps huge airwave time and warrants a slew of awards?


I think he is a complete sack of shit, anyone who looks at, produces or has any relation to the propagation of CHILD PORN needs to be quartered now.

Please don't give me that line of shit that he produces good music, nothing should ever, I REPEAT EVER JEPORDIZE THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDEREN.

DAMN you folks that think other.

 

[anabolicmd]

Just ask Eddie Griffin, Serena Williams, MC Hammer, Ryan Seacrest, Nick and Aaron Carter and the rest of the chumps partying ith Jacko this weekend.

 

[CipherLock]

Jacko shit is also a lot of preying on children and subjective accusations.

Kelly is black and white clear. He had child porn images. No subjectivity, yet he is widley popular and accpeted.

makes me sick.

 

[anabolicmd]

Jacko shit is also a lot of preying on children and subjective accusations.

Kelly is black and white clear. He had child porn images. No subjectivity, yet he is widley popular and accpeted.

makes me sick.

Yeah, well unfortunately people arent all that upset because the girls were in their teens.

 

[Lao Tzu]

R Kelly was arrested for having a video of him having sex with a 13 year old. since the 13 year old most likely wasnt emotionally traumatized by this event and participated voluntarilily that doesnt make it as big a deal as something like anal rape of a 7 year old, which is what i think of when i think of child molestation.

 

[jerkbox]

well, it's not like he was messin with 6 yr olds or something....weren't they like 14 or 15....shit.....I knew 12 yr olds that got knocked up when I was in school....they were hardly "children"...

not that I condone it really, but there is a difference.

 

[barefoot genius]

Wasn't he found guilty or something? Yet he still reaps huge airwave time and warrants a slew of awards?


I think he is a complete sack of shit, anyone who looks at, produces or has any relation to the propagation of CHILD PORN needs to be quartered now.

Please don't give me that line of shit that he produces good music, nothing should ever, I REPEAT EVER JEPORDIZE THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDEREN.

DAMN you folks that think other.

 

[barefoot genius]

on an aside, cognition and other brain function is still in development at 13, which makes the 13 year old a child. and which makes what r kelly did a crime.

 

[velvett]

I totally agree - and it's rather disturbing to me.

I mean they're CHILDREN.


What is more disturbing to me is that I felt bad for someone that was acused of rape and the publically admits to watching and enjoying porn videos of a woman being raped - or as it's described "forced".


People like this make me sick and I hope each and everyone one of them meets a similiar fate.

 

[CipherLock]

People like this make me sick and I hope each and everyone one of them meets a similiar fate.

Or me, in a dark alley, and me with a mace, and them tied and gagged.

 

[Lao Tzu]

on an aside, cognition and other brain function is still in development at 13, which makes the 13 year old a child. and which makes what r kelly did a crime.

however our judicial system is, in large part at least, designed to punish crimes based on how much trauma the crimes have caused the victim. a 7 year old being forcibly raped and a 13 year old engaging in voluntary sex are not the same thing.

 

[CipherLock]

however our judicial system is, in large part at least, designed to punish crimes based on how much trauma the crimes have caused the victim. a 7 year old being forcibly raped and a 13 year old engaging in voluntary sex are not the same thing.

I understand the argument you are voicing, but what do you feel about it based on YOUR value system? How do you feel about that crime and RKelly?

 

[LeeJunFan]

 

[Lao Tzu]

I understand the argument you are voicing, but what do you feel about it based on YOUR value system? How do you feel about that crime and RKelly?

Hmm. luckily this is the internet so i can be honest more or less.

I do not care much, depends on what the 13 year old girl went though. If she is some 13 year old hood rat who lost her virginity at 8 and who has more life experience than a 24 year old from the suburbs who voluntarily engaged in sex then i am not that concerned.

 

[CipherLock]

I do not care much, depends on what the 13 year old girl went though. If she is some 13 year old hood rat who lost her virginity at 8 and who has more life experience than a 24 year old from the suburbs who voluntarily engaged in sex then i am not that concerned.

Ok, what if it is a HIGE fan who was easily manipulated because of the magic around celebs in america and he took advantage of her? Taped her. Shared the tape, and the little girl thought the whole thing was fine.

BUT that little girl is your niece, your daughter, your little sister etc?

Yes, I want you to make it a personal opinion. I want your bias here.

 

[anabolicmd]

Hmm. luckily this is the internet so i can be honest more or less.

I do not care much, depends on what the 13 year old girl went though. If she is some 13 year old hood rat who lost her virginity at 8 and who has more life experience than a 24 year old from the suburbs who voluntarily engaged in sex then i am not that concerned.

Bro, thats bullshit. A 13 year old doesnt have the mental or legal capacity to consent to sex, regardless of her experience. It is child rape any way you look at it.

 

[ohashi]

My bias: I hate all meainstream music (especially Rap-related) and wish to slowly murder each and every person who listens to it on the radio.

As such, I hate R-Kelly no matter what he did and to whom.

 

[Lao Tzu]

Ok, what if it is a HUGE fan who was easily manipulated because of the magic around celebs in america and he took advantage of her? Taped her. Shared the tape, and the little girl thought the whole thing was fine.

BUT that little girl is your niece, your daughter, your little sister etc?

Yes, I want you to make it a personal opinion. I want your bias here.

if it were my niece, daughter or sister then that would be different. I would be pissed off then but i still wouldnt consider it nearly as serious as forced sex or something along those lines. She probably was blown over by his celebrity, just like the 100s of other women im sure he has slept with have been. Dont know how to respond to that, depends on the maturity of the 13 year old i guess.

 

[Lao Tzu]

Bro, thats bullshit. A 13 year old doesnt have the mental or legal capacity to consent to sex, regardless of her experience. It is child rape any way you look at it.

i dont agree with that as rape usually connotes severe, debilitating emotional trauma on the part of the victim and i dont think the 13 year old girl from this situation experienced that. If she did it was probably because she was exposed to the world when R Kelly was caught.

in the US they dont have legal capacity but in some countries they do. then again in some countries you can beat your wife to death over a minor infraction.

 

[CipherLock]

, depends on the maturity of the 13 year old i guess.

And that's why the law is subjective I suppose. I am black and white on the intrepretation - 18 years old and the law makes you look good, but what if they are mentally handicapped etc???

There will always be subjectivity, but I think when the area is for the safety of our children no matter their maturity level there should be fierce enforcement of the law.

He should be jailed not just because it is wrong, but to let everyone know that no matter how mature someone may think a 13 year old is, they are not an adult, they are still a child etc...

Man, I think of how immature I was when I was 23, Hell, I feel truly saddened for the children who think they are ready for the adult world, and I hate the Adults who take advatage and pervert them.

 

[Imnotdutcheither]

I cant believe some of the shite that i am reading on this thread. I'm with you Cipher.........

 

[anabolicmd]

i dont agree with that as rape usually connotes severe, debilitating emotional trauma on the part of the victim and i dont think the 13 year old girl from this situation experienced that. If she did it was probably because she was exposed to the world when R Kelly was caught.

in the US they dont have legal capacity but in some countries they do. then again in some countries you can beat your wife to death over a minor infraction.

Your argument is demented to the point of being sociopathic.

 

[Dial_tone]

I still like Elton John even though i'm pretty sure he's had his dick in some guy's ass before. I never did like R. Kelly.

 

[CipherLock]

I think Nordy is playing devil's advocate. You can see where when questioned about it with a forced personal bias he sees the wrong or else he wouldn't have voiced how it would make him angry.

I think Nordy just isn't mature enough yet. (Not a flame Nord, just my thought.)

 

[RottenWillow]

a 7 year old being forcibly raped and a 13 year old engaging in voluntary sex are not the same thing.

Very true.

I was basically full grown when I was 13 and I was sexually active. I know I would have been seriously offended if adults had labeled me a "child" and lumped me in with elementry school kids.

 

[barefoot genius]

i dont agree with that as rape usually connotes severe, debilitating emotional trauma on the part of the victim and i dont think the 13 year old girl from this situation experienced that.

not every rape survivor experiences severe, dibilitating emotional trauma. i've seen a number of survivors who use repression or other defense mechanisms to cope with the rape.

 

[Lao Tzu]

I think Nordy is playing devil's advocate. You can see where when questioned about it with a forced personal bias he sees the wrong or else he wouldn't have voiced how it would make him angry.

I think Nordy just isn't mature enough yet. (Not a flame Nord, just my thought.)

yep i do play devils advocate alot. i am of the opinion that this event is not in the same category as forced child molestation though.

 

[CipherLock]

I was basically full grown when I was 13 and I was sexually active. I know I would have been seriously offended if adults had labeled me a "child" and lumped me in with elementry school kids.

How old are you now anya?

 

[RottenWillow]

How old are you now anya?

I'll be 21 in May.

 

[CipherLock]

I'll be 21 in May.

See my reference to how I look back now and realize how young I feel I was (maturity) at 23.

I really feel that you will know differently one day and think back on how you felt about being 13 and being an adult as well, wrong.

But to feed both sides of the argument, I would have no problems considering a 13 yearold who plotted and commited murder for trial and punishment as an adult.

I wonder if that makes me a hypocrite?

 

[ohashi]

Who did you sleep with? I was sexually active at my turning 13 as well, but she was my age, and we were both willing. It'd be a bit different if your partner at the time was of your age now.

 

[CipherLock]

Who did you sleep with? I was sexually active at my turning 13 as well, but she was my age, and we were both willing. It'd be a bit different if your partner at the time was of your age now.

Of course. I'm not saying I approve of that activity but I know we all did things when we were young, it's just those poor fourteen yearolds who hooked up with 43 year olds that screams wrong.

Solid point.

 

[RottenWillow]

Older guys always try to get with younger girls and girls always want to get with older guys. Everyone knows that just the way it is the vast majority of the time when you're under 20. 8th grade girls dating hs age guys is really commom and a huge boost to a girl's ego. How many freshman girls can you remember from hs who were dating senior guys? Like dozens?

Ohashi, in my case I was 13 he was 16.

 

[ohashi]

Ugh.

My sister is 14. An 18-year old senior is trying to get into her pants. Last night, he pulled up in his car at 3:12 fucking A.M. and wanted to take her out. I told him he'll have to go fuck himself (literally, he will), and he ran his mouth off to me, the fucking puke. We actually got into a "fight" right then and there, except the "fight" consisted of me locking his shoulder and getting him to beg for release.

Anyway, I don't approve of my sister dating that fag. And I have my Analysis and Design final in an hour, so I'm gone for the rest of the day.

 

[jerkbox]

Ugh.

My sister is 14. An 18-year old senior is trying to get into her pants. Last night, he pulled up in his car at 3:12 fucking A.M. and wanted to take her out. I told him he'll have to go fuck himself (literally, he will), and he ran his mouth off to me, the fucking puke. We actually got into a "fight" right then and there, except the "fight" consisted of me locking his shoulder and getting him to beg for release.

Anyway, I don't approve of my sister dating that fag. And I have my Analysis and Design final in an hour, so I'm gone for the rest of the day.

damn....i woulda pounded some motherfucker if he had pulled that shit with my sister.....good thing she was always a good girl when she was young....now however, at the age of 24, she lives with a 38 yr old guy..... ...she's all grown up, so I basically can't do or say shit.

someone explain that to me....

 

[Apöllo]

I wish i was having sex when i was 13

 

[RaZor Ramon]

Didn't Elvis Marry Pricella when she was 14? And he was the king.

 

[RottenWillow]

damn....i woulda pounded some motherfucker if he had pulled that shit with my sister.....

I think ALL older brothers must be like that. One of my older brothers, Miguel who always tormented me the most by far, was exactly like that. Always like "in your face" with my dates. And this from the brother that slammed my head in the head when I was 12.

Brothers.....

 

[Mr. dB]

How can anyone possible hold a grudge against someone as talented as R. Kelly? I mean, "Step In The Name Of Love" is one of the great masterpieces of the 21st Century. Sheer artistry. I am so in awe of his talent that I would offer up my own daughter for him to rape, if only I had one.

And pigs fly outta my ass.

 

[CipherLock]

You know, as a hetrosexual for life I think it would mean a lot to my fans to hear that I would step up to the plate and anally rape R Kelly for justice, ok, I wouldn't but I hope someone will.

 

[big4life]

Anything like this that portrays children in a sexual manner, or degrades another human being is crossing the line. I will never understand how someone can get enjoyment from this type of video.

 

[manny78]

Jacko shit is also a lot of preying on children and subjective accusations.

Kelly is black and white clear. He had child porn images. No subjectivity, yet he is widley popular and accpeted.

makes me sick.

Cause lot of dumb "oppressed liberals" see in this guy the true incarnation of a playa... sad but true.

 

[Island Son]

I still like his music.
But I agree he should be in jail. You know if it was you or me we'd have been behind bars years ago.
if there's VIDEO of you committing a crime and you still get off, well.... that gives you faith in the legal system.

 

[Apöllo]

Is anyone here jealous that R got to bang teenage girls and they didn't?

 

[BO-DEN]

Wasn't he found guilty or something? Yet he still reaps huge airwave time and warrants a slew of awards?


I think he is a complete sack of shit, anyone who looks at, produces or has any relation to the propagation of CHILD PORN needs to be quartered now.

Please don't give me that line of shit that he produces good music, nothing should ever, I REPEAT EVER JEPORDIZE THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDEREN.

DAMN you folks that think other.

i cant say im angry with him...

it wasnt a 10 year old girl

she was 17

the only cases that get me angry are the (BOYS) that become totaly fucked up after being rapped by some dude.

thats FUCKED up


MY OPINION

BO-DEN

 

[PIGEON-RAT]

phil spector killed his girlfriend, but people still love the albums he produced. the persons actions don't change the quality of their music. if people liked r kelly's music, then what he didn't shouldn't change their taste of the music, but their view of him would change of course. i think his music sucks and he should get railed in federal pound me in the ass prison.

but he did regain some of my respect by pissing on the girl.

 

[jackangel]

i actually do think "step in the name of love" (remix) is a really fucking good song, and i listen to it often. if he's a criminal, punish him. i don't really care what happens to him, if he is deserving of it. but if the music is good, i won't turn it off for anything.

 

[ZKaudio]

not raeding this shit above but... for ref. he didn't molest or rape anyone... this girl; was like 17 and lied about her age. could have happened to anyone here... as for peein on her, i guess that's not really illegal lol

 

[CipherLock]

interesting additions

 

[OMGWTFBBQ]

I choose not to look at what he does one way or the other with the kids - I choose to instead hate him and his music because it sucks and I hate hearing it.

 

[Imnotdutcheither]

lol

I choose not to look at what he does one way or the other with the kids - I choose to instead hate him and his music because it sucks and I hate hearing it.

 

[coldblue1955]

my mom hates his guts!

 

[Razorguns]

there's a big difference between statuatory rape and child molestation.

the latter deserves torture and really horrible death.

the former deserves slapping of both parties and a "can't you freakin' wait a couple years?" speech.

 

[chewyxrage]

what up with resurrection?


This is how we do it at the R. Kelly party.

I sip Cryss.....you drink piss.

 

[MissJanet79]

See my reference to how I look back now and realize how young I feel I was (maturity) at 23.

I really feel that you will know differently one day and think back on how you felt about being 13 and being an adult as well, wrong.

But to feed both sides of the argument, I would have no problems considering a 13 yearold who plotted and commited murder for trial and punishment as an adult.

I wonder if that makes me a hypocrite?

In a sense, yes b/c you contradict yourself. However I can understand your frustration. I for one, think it's horrible. R Kelly, Kobe etc... Are you no longer a KOBE fan now that he's in trouble? There are MANY Kobe fans who ignore the accusations & still worship him on the court. Ball playing is all they love Kobe for.... Just as R Kelly - you love his music, don't know him personally & wouldn't want to. Music is all they love R Kelly for...

It's pretty intense when there's fame involved. There's millions of SICK people who do things like this everyday & we don't know about it, you know? It's sad & hence why we have to take care of our youth - make sure they're educated. I was very well-informed as a child/young teenager. I would read & even watch talk shows etc., & grew up in a loving, yet disciplined household. That combination, I believe, is what kept me from becoming sexually active at a young age. I waited 'til I was 21 - it wasn't about age...it was about the person. At that time, I met someone whom I felt deserved it. ~~ So I only hope that when I have children, that they are well-informed so that they know how to make the right decisions about that.

At 13 years old - we do KNOW better - generally speaking. Just as the 13 year old child who kills someone is tried as an adult - so is the 13 yr old girl who was not forced into the sexual act.