Girlfriends Var cycle.?? 10mgED

[musclehealth]

My girlfriend is planning to do her first AAS cycle. She has been training and dieting for years and years but never had the need for aas. She is training for a show this spring. How long can she use Var for? She is currently bulking up then will start her cutting 12 weeks out from the contest. She is a registered dietision so her diet is on key 100% (more important then any supps). I suggested 10mg ed of var. How many weeks can she run the var? Should she use it for both the bulking and cutting or for only the cutting? 16 weeks to long?

 

[musclehealth]

I was thinking of 10mg ed for 12 weeks while she start cutting. How long will var kicks in?

 

[Sassy69]

My first suggestion is to get her to do the research if she is interested in using it -- its her body - her results, her sides. There are lots of AAS profiles online that she should be reading to understand more about it.

With that big fat recommendation, generally var will start "showing itself" in about 1.5 -2 weeks. Would suggest starting at a low dose like 5 mg to see how she responds to it. Depending on your brand, sides can be more or less. (And that is not to say also that depending on her - sides can be more or less as well.) Sides can be acne, scratchy voice, oily skin, etc. Var tends to be the least prone to serious sides of all the AAS women can use. After say 2 weeks, then can increase the dose and again continue to watch for sides. A typical cycle can run 8-12 weeks at the low doses with little problem.

Also expect it to interrupt her menstrual cycle. Is she plannign to be using birth control during contest prep?

 

[musclehealth]

Birth control will definetly be used. How will it effect birth control? That was my first worry. I guess we gota use extra protection. I think 5mg ED will do her just fine. Its truly mild and the mildest of all.

 

[nsashbl01]

From what I've seen, the leaner girls respond to lower doses. Thicker girls need more, but then have a higher chance of sides. I have seen really muscular girls on no more than 5mg, and have seen girls on 15mg that look like they are natty. Just like with guys. Start and stay as low dose as possible. She'll be happier in the end....

 

[slat1]

Stick with 5mgs. You would be risking sides at 10mgs... nobody wants that!

 

[musclehealth]

Im guessing no PCT?? Women dont need that do they? 5mg ed for 12 weeks. Any other suggestions? Some say taking it with wine work or makes you more defined? Is that a bunch of BS or what? I dont believe in that shit but I figured I would bring it up.

 

[Sassy69]

Women dont need pct because there's no natural test shut off like guys. Just need to eat uber clean & train like a mofo.

Expect her menstrual cycle will get interrupted. Note that most competitors come off any birthcontrol while cycling, esp for competition because b/c is designed to enforce estrogen rates, including estrogen-related fat depositing. That goes counter to what male hormones try to do. They don't really interact per se, but their actions are counter to each other. But women tend to freak out when they realize their menstrual cycles stop during a cycle and usually for a month or two after the cycle is over. Why? I probably can't give an accurate medical reason, but I'd say generally the whole cycle just gets confused by the new substance in the body, different levels of test, along w/ the stress it may be adding to the system. Also durinig competition as your bodyfat drops significantly, like around 11-12% and lower, that will also cause the menstrual cycle to stop for a while. But usually after a competitoin is over and the rebound brings bodyfat back up, the cycle starts up naturally again.

No don't drink wine. One thing about AAS - it is a stress on the body. Especially things like winstrol are just brutal on some women. Var isn't' too bad but it does put additional stress on the system. Throwing in wine or other alcohol just stresses it more. The only reason I can think that someone would purposely drink wine would be immediately before a competition to get more vascular. But that's just a short term thing when you are very lean and dried out. I wouldnt' make it part of a daily regimen or anything like that.

Also I'd suggest using a creatine if she's tryign to bulk a bit -- creatine, like AF Store PureCEE is supposed to work very synergistically w/ var. But keep in mind the uber clean diet & hard trainign to get the most out of the cycle.

 

[nsashbl01]

Women dont need pct because there's no natural test shut off like guys. Just need to eat uber clean & train like a mofo.

Expect her menstrual cycle will get interrupted. Note that most competitors come off any birthcontrol while cycling, esp for competition because b/c is designed to enforce estrogen rates, including estrogen-related fat depositing. That goes counter to what male hormones try to do. They don't really interact per se, but their actions are counter to each other. But women tend to freak out when they realize their menstrual cycles stop during a cycle and usually for a month or two after the cycle is over. Why? I probably can't give an accurate medical reason, but I'd say generally the whole cycle just gets confused by the new substance in the body, different levels of test, along w/ the stress it may be adding to the system. Also durinig competition as your bodyfat drops significantly, like around 11-12% and lower, that will also cause the menstrual cycle to stop for a while. But usually after a competitoin is over and the rebound brings bodyfat back up, the cycle starts up naturally again.

No don't drink wine. One thing about AAS - it is a stress on the body. Especially things like winstrol are just brutal on some women. Var isn't' too bad but it does put additional stress on the system. Throwing in wine or other alcohol just stresses it more. The only reason I can think that someone would purposely drink wine would be immediately before a competition to get more vascular. But that's just a short term thing when you are very lean and dried out. I wouldnt' make it part of a daily regimen or anything like that.

Also I'd suggest using a creatine if she's tryign to bulk a bit -- creatine, like AF Store PureCEE is supposed to work very synergistically w/ var. But keep in mind the uber clean diet & hard trainign to get the most out of the cycle.

Regarding the var. Purcee is the only one I have seen work without bloat. The BSN and another both proved to be shit! Sucks that Purcee has been tough to get, but it's really worth it. As far as her cycle. Don't worry. My girl has not gotten it for years at a time and her doc is ok with it. He just does not want her below 8%bf. So thats around where she stays. Keep the cycle for more like 6-8 weeks and get lab work done. Make sure her liver and lipids are ok.