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Is it possibel for someone who reaches an orgasm to expel some pee too??MrsPuddlesFL said:
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TerraNoble, I would imagine it's possible since both fluids are expelled through the urethra.
Below is a copy from the page about g-spot stimulation I've posted before...this talks about the composition and origination of "squirt juice."
From: http://www.libchrist.com/sexed/Gspot.html
Female Ejaculation
While all women have a G-spot, it has been estimated between 10% and 40% of women are capable of ejaculation. The G-spot need not be stimulated for ejaculation to occur, but most women say that their first ejaculation experience came from massaging their G-spot. The response varies from a light sprinkle to a huge gush. I have experienced women who gushed huge amounts of fluid 10 feet out.
Researches have found that although many women feel a slight need to urinate right before ejaculation, the fluid is definitely not urine. Nor does it come from the Bartholin gland which produces a milky, odorless secretion that helps lubricate the vagina when sexually aroused.
Today we now know that the difference between women who squirt and those that don't is in the number and size of their pariurethral glands. They are analogous to the hundreds of tiny glands that constitute the male's prostate gland and are responsible for 15% to 50% of the fluid a man ejaculates.
The myths that female ejaculation is the result of poor bladder control, or excess secretion which sweats from the vaginal walls and pools in the back of the vagina to squirt out during the strong muscle contractions of orgasm, have been proven wrong. For decades many women felt it dreadfully abnormal and tried to hide or avoid it. Physicians in their ignorance tried to cure it. By questioning many women, researchers have established that about one woman in five ejaculates (through her urethra rather than her vagina), some of the time but not always. The stimulation of the G-spot produces both her ejaculation and her deep uterine contractions.
Besides the famous study of Whipple and Perry of Dr. Ernest Grafenberg's 1950 article about the spot, in Nova Scotia researcher Ed Belzer explored the chemical composition of female ejaculate. In Florida Helen Robinson and Sharon Pietranton worked with groups of ejaculating women. At first American gynecologists, routinely trained not to sexually stimulate their patients, were astonished that Dr. Grafenberg was on such sensual terms with his. Generations of gynecologists have tied to cope with "hypersecretors" blaming it on poor bladder control.
"Women's response to direct stimulation of the G-spot is identical to the response of males when their prostate is stimulated," Perry and Whipple observed. The first few seconds of stimulation produces a strong feeling that they have to urinate. This feeling lasts for two to ten seconds, maybe longer, before changing to a distinctly sexual enjoyment. Whipple felt that most women when faced with this sensation hold back their sexual response to keep from wetting on their partners. Perry theorized that this may explain why up to 25% of American females never have orgasms - they've learned early that to avoid the embarrassment of urinating during sex, they have to hold back.
It is common for writers of porn films and erotic books to make it appear that male ejaculations "shoot" or "spurt". But Kinsey's observations of hundreds of male ejaculators showed that in about 75% of men the semen merely exudes from the meatus or is propelled with so little force that the liquid is not carried more than a very small distance beyond the tip of the penis. In short, most males ooze rather than shoot. Their semen doesn't spurt, it dribbles out.
Similarly, if a woman expels fluid other than urine from her urethra, she shouldn't have to make it squirt for it to qualify as ejaculation. The fact that many women don't notice it since its not a powerful squirt contributes to the underreporting of female ejaculation. Other women, including one of my (Dave's) partners, very strongly squirt large amounts of fluid while having powerful G-spot orgasms.
Helen Robinson reported that one of her research subjects was highly orgasmic and continued to ejaculate copiously with each orgasm and would ejaculate a quart of fluid in one session. A teaspoon of fluid is the more common amount, but a cupful is not uncommon.
At Dalhousie University professor Ed Belzer found varying concentrations of acid phosphatase in the women's ejaculate. This chemical had previously been thought to be produced only by males, and in some courtrooms was accepted as evidence to support a rape charge. Belzer's discovery proved that it wasn't urine and also pointed out the existence of a genuine female prostate-like gland.
Not only are the fluids they produce chemically similar, the female prostate acts like the male prostate: when rhythmically prodded, it swells up and then discharges fluid through the urethra. To reach a male's prostate gland, you have to reach in through his anus. In the female, you reach in - at virtually the same angle - through her vagina.
There has been debate whether the ejaculation originate from the bladder or from the urethral glands and ducts. Both may be the case in that a small amount of fluid may be released from the urethral glands and ducts in some instances and mixed in the urethra with a clear fluid that originates in the bladder.
Tests have been done where the bladder is drained of urine before the sexual stimualation and resulting ejaculation. Even though their bladders had been drained, they still expelled from 50 ml to 900 ml of fluid through the tube and into the catheter bag. The only reasonable conclusion would be that the fluid came from a combination of residual moisture in the walls of the bladder and from post draining kidney output.
Regardless, a number of tests have chemical analysis have been done on the fluid. Exactly what it is, isn't known but there is a consistency of results that show a greatly reduced concentration of the two primary components of urine, urea and creatinine, in the expelled fluid.
As Unv of So Calf tests showed the results were clearly "out of the range" to be defined as urine.
But women's sexuality still remains a mystery (as women do in other ways ... as the exact source and exactly what the fluid is remains natures secret.
Male and Female Sex Organs Have Common Origin
An anatomy lesson may help understand why ejaculation is not as far fetched as it may seem. There really is not that much difference between male and female sex organs. In-vitro we all start out as female. If we get certain chemicals our development changes to male and our female organs dry up and we develop male.
Have you ever wondered what that line was on the back side of a penis? Or, have you ever looked? It is the remnants of a man's vagina when he was a female early in gestation. Likewise the very sensitive spot on the back of a mans penis, where the foreskin attaches is the remnants of the female clitoris.
Sexual development in the womb it is not always perfect. The most extreme problem is those whose gender does not match their sex organs (transsexuals). Since male and female are so similar, surgery can reassign one's sex to match gender. Yes, it is done all the time, both male to female and less frequently female to male.
The same but much less dramatic natural event seems to occur in some women in which they develop small prostate like glands that are capable or producing ejaculation. Lab tests show the female ejac is very similar in composition to the prostate fluid within the male ejac (semen which comes from prostate mixed with sperm etc), but without the sperm in a female.
Fluids reported as being present in female ejaculate. Information and links to sites re: female urethral ejaculation.
1. - http://www.incontinet.com/skenesgland.htm - good for anyone curious enough to want to see what Skene’s Glands look like and where they are located. Significant, is the fact that these glands open not only to the exterior but several ducts open directly inside the urethra and into the upper vaginal wall as well.
2. - http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/ejacula.htm - very good site with the most information, lots of diagrams, including “how to find the "G" spot. “In some cases, all of the fluid emitted from a woman's urethra is ejaculate. In other cases, the liquid is likely a mixture of ejaculate and urine, or only urine. There has not been sufficient research done to clarify exactly what the fluid is, in every instance.”
3. - http://www.doctorg.com/FemaleEjaculation.htm - very good article on female ejaculation (urethral) with a report on an experiment in which women known to be ejaculators were tested using catheterization to determine where the fluids expelled actually came from, one woman actually producing 900ml. of ejaculate. The conclusion was that the fluid expelled was principally from the bladder but was significantly different from urine collected before orgasm.
4. - http://www.drgspot.net/cabello.htm - indicated that the urethral glands are homologues of the male prostate that most women expel such fluids in amounts from so small as to be unnoticeable to them, up to 50 ml., and and that most of the fluid ejaculated is urine.
- “The urine emitted after the orgasm carries the product of the "female prostate" on its way through the urethra.”
- “In 75% of the postorgasmic urine samples, we detected PSA.” “The obtained data seems to confirm our hypothesis that at least most women (75% of our sample), produce a certain amount of PSA during orgasm, that can only come from the urethral and paraurethral glands (female prostate).“
- “Summarizing our position, we believe that all women ejaculate, that is, produce more or less quantity of secretion of the urethral and paraurethral glands and Skene's ducts and expel it outwards or inwards, towards the bladder, with the orgasmic contractions.”
5. - http://members.tripod.com/MrBulky/gspot.htm - a lot of info on the “G” spot but scroll down near the end and in "THIRD ARTICLE” there’s more about ejaculation, where it was noted that the ejaculate definitely came from the urethra.
“Orgasmic expulsions occurred after less than a minute of stimulation; they were separated in a multi- orgasmic series by similarly brief periods of time. The urethral area was clearly exposed in bright light, and there was absolutely no doubt that the liquid was expelled from the urethral meatus. Sometimes it exuded from the meatus. At other times it was expelled from one to a few centimetres. On one observer occasion, expulsion was of sufficient force to create a series of wet spots covering a distance of more than a meter.”
6. - http://www-personal.une.edu.au/~gob...mic_Gushing.htm - discusses the different fluids expelled during orgasm and attempts to differentiate between lubricants, ejaculation and gushing
7. http://www.annies-female-ejaculation.com/ - good general info from the female perspective.
“When female ejaculation occurs, the consensus is that it comes from the urethra and not the vagina.”
8. - http://incontinet.com/articles/art_sex/candgos.htm - Effects of Clitoral and GSpot Stimulation on Pelvic Muscles - pretty technical stuff, but a good way to see the differences in intensity between clitoral and “G” spot orgasms by electromyographic recordings. Also a few links to other pages of Kegel info.
Below is a copy from the page about g-spot stimulation I've posted before...this talks about the composition and origination of "squirt juice."
From: http://www.libchrist.com/sexed/Gspot.html
Female Ejaculation
While all women have a G-spot, it has been estimated between 10% and 40% of women are capable of ejaculation. The G-spot need not be stimulated for ejaculation to occur, but most women say that their first ejaculation experience came from massaging their G-spot. The response varies from a light sprinkle to a huge gush. I have experienced women who gushed huge amounts of fluid 10 feet out.
Researches have found that although many women feel a slight need to urinate right before ejaculation, the fluid is definitely not urine. Nor does it come from the Bartholin gland which produces a milky, odorless secretion that helps lubricate the vagina when sexually aroused.
Today we now know that the difference between women who squirt and those that don't is in the number and size of their pariurethral glands. They are analogous to the hundreds of tiny glands that constitute the male's prostate gland and are responsible for 15% to 50% of the fluid a man ejaculates.
The myths that female ejaculation is the result of poor bladder control, or excess secretion which sweats from the vaginal walls and pools in the back of the vagina to squirt out during the strong muscle contractions of orgasm, have been proven wrong. For decades many women felt it dreadfully abnormal and tried to hide or avoid it. Physicians in their ignorance tried to cure it. By questioning many women, researchers have established that about one woman in five ejaculates (through her urethra rather than her vagina), some of the time but not always. The stimulation of the G-spot produces both her ejaculation and her deep uterine contractions.
Besides the famous study of Whipple and Perry of Dr. Ernest Grafenberg's 1950 article about the spot, in Nova Scotia researcher Ed Belzer explored the chemical composition of female ejaculate. In Florida Helen Robinson and Sharon Pietranton worked with groups of ejaculating women. At first American gynecologists, routinely trained not to sexually stimulate their patients, were astonished that Dr. Grafenberg was on such sensual terms with his. Generations of gynecologists have tied to cope with "hypersecretors" blaming it on poor bladder control.
"Women's response to direct stimulation of the G-spot is identical to the response of males when their prostate is stimulated," Perry and Whipple observed. The first few seconds of stimulation produces a strong feeling that they have to urinate. This feeling lasts for two to ten seconds, maybe longer, before changing to a distinctly sexual enjoyment. Whipple felt that most women when faced with this sensation hold back their sexual response to keep from wetting on their partners. Perry theorized that this may explain why up to 25% of American females never have orgasms - they've learned early that to avoid the embarrassment of urinating during sex, they have to hold back.
It is common for writers of porn films and erotic books to make it appear that male ejaculations "shoot" or "spurt". But Kinsey's observations of hundreds of male ejaculators showed that in about 75% of men the semen merely exudes from the meatus or is propelled with so little force that the liquid is not carried more than a very small distance beyond the tip of the penis. In short, most males ooze rather than shoot. Their semen doesn't spurt, it dribbles out.
Similarly, if a woman expels fluid other than urine from her urethra, she shouldn't have to make it squirt for it to qualify as ejaculation. The fact that many women don't notice it since its not a powerful squirt contributes to the underreporting of female ejaculation. Other women, including one of my (Dave's) partners, very strongly squirt large amounts of fluid while having powerful G-spot orgasms.
Helen Robinson reported that one of her research subjects was highly orgasmic and continued to ejaculate copiously with each orgasm and would ejaculate a quart of fluid in one session. A teaspoon of fluid is the more common amount, but a cupful is not uncommon.
At Dalhousie University professor Ed Belzer found varying concentrations of acid phosphatase in the women's ejaculate. This chemical had previously been thought to be produced only by males, and in some courtrooms was accepted as evidence to support a rape charge. Belzer's discovery proved that it wasn't urine and also pointed out the existence of a genuine female prostate-like gland.
Not only are the fluids they produce chemically similar, the female prostate acts like the male prostate: when rhythmically prodded, it swells up and then discharges fluid through the urethra. To reach a male's prostate gland, you have to reach in through his anus. In the female, you reach in - at virtually the same angle - through her vagina.
There has been debate whether the ejaculation originate from the bladder or from the urethral glands and ducts. Both may be the case in that a small amount of fluid may be released from the urethral glands and ducts in some instances and mixed in the urethra with a clear fluid that originates in the bladder.
Tests have been done where the bladder is drained of urine before the sexual stimualation and resulting ejaculation. Even though their bladders had been drained, they still expelled from 50 ml to 900 ml of fluid through the tube and into the catheter bag. The only reasonable conclusion would be that the fluid came from a combination of residual moisture in the walls of the bladder and from post draining kidney output.
Regardless, a number of tests have chemical analysis have been done on the fluid. Exactly what it is, isn't known but there is a consistency of results that show a greatly reduced concentration of the two primary components of urine, urea and creatinine, in the expelled fluid.
As Unv of So Calf tests showed the results were clearly "out of the range" to be defined as urine.
But women's sexuality still remains a mystery (as women do in other ways ... as the exact source and exactly what the fluid is remains natures secret.
Male and Female Sex Organs Have Common Origin
An anatomy lesson may help understand why ejaculation is not as far fetched as it may seem. There really is not that much difference between male and female sex organs. In-vitro we all start out as female. If we get certain chemicals our development changes to male and our female organs dry up and we develop male.
Have you ever wondered what that line was on the back side of a penis? Or, have you ever looked? It is the remnants of a man's vagina when he was a female early in gestation. Likewise the very sensitive spot on the back of a mans penis, where the foreskin attaches is the remnants of the female clitoris.
Sexual development in the womb it is not always perfect. The most extreme problem is those whose gender does not match their sex organs (transsexuals). Since male and female are so similar, surgery can reassign one's sex to match gender. Yes, it is done all the time, both male to female and less frequently female to male.
The same but much less dramatic natural event seems to occur in some women in which they develop small prostate like glands that are capable or producing ejaculation. Lab tests show the female ejac is very similar in composition to the prostate fluid within the male ejac (semen which comes from prostate mixed with sperm etc), but without the sperm in a female.
Fluids reported as being present in female ejaculate. Information and links to sites re: female urethral ejaculation.
1. - http://www.incontinet.com/skenesgland.htm - good for anyone curious enough to want to see what Skene’s Glands look like and where they are located. Significant, is the fact that these glands open not only to the exterior but several ducts open directly inside the urethra and into the upper vaginal wall as well.
2. - http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/ejacula.htm - very good site with the most information, lots of diagrams, including “how to find the "G" spot. “In some cases, all of the fluid emitted from a woman's urethra is ejaculate. In other cases, the liquid is likely a mixture of ejaculate and urine, or only urine. There has not been sufficient research done to clarify exactly what the fluid is, in every instance.”
3. - http://www.doctorg.com/FemaleEjaculation.htm - very good article on female ejaculation (urethral) with a report on an experiment in which women known to be ejaculators were tested using catheterization to determine where the fluids expelled actually came from, one woman actually producing 900ml. of ejaculate. The conclusion was that the fluid expelled was principally from the bladder but was significantly different from urine collected before orgasm.
4. - http://www.drgspot.net/cabello.htm - indicated that the urethral glands are homologues of the male prostate that most women expel such fluids in amounts from so small as to be unnoticeable to them, up to 50 ml., and and that most of the fluid ejaculated is urine.
- “The urine emitted after the orgasm carries the product of the "female prostate" on its way through the urethra.”
- “In 75% of the postorgasmic urine samples, we detected PSA.” “The obtained data seems to confirm our hypothesis that at least most women (75% of our sample), produce a certain amount of PSA during orgasm, that can only come from the urethral and paraurethral glands (female prostate).“
- “Summarizing our position, we believe that all women ejaculate, that is, produce more or less quantity of secretion of the urethral and paraurethral glands and Skene's ducts and expel it outwards or inwards, towards the bladder, with the orgasmic contractions.”
5. - http://members.tripod.com/MrBulky/gspot.htm - a lot of info on the “G” spot but scroll down near the end and in "THIRD ARTICLE” there’s more about ejaculation, where it was noted that the ejaculate definitely came from the urethra.
“Orgasmic expulsions occurred after less than a minute of stimulation; they were separated in a multi- orgasmic series by similarly brief periods of time. The urethral area was clearly exposed in bright light, and there was absolutely no doubt that the liquid was expelled from the urethral meatus. Sometimes it exuded from the meatus. At other times it was expelled from one to a few centimetres. On one observer occasion, expulsion was of sufficient force to create a series of wet spots covering a distance of more than a meter.”
6. - http://www-personal.une.edu.au/~gob...mic_Gushing.htm - discusses the different fluids expelled during orgasm and attempts to differentiate between lubricants, ejaculation and gushing
7. http://www.annies-female-ejaculation.com/ - good general info from the female perspective.
“When female ejaculation occurs, the consensus is that it comes from the urethra and not the vagina.”
8. - http://incontinet.com/articles/art_sex/candgos.htm - Effects of Clitoral and GSpot Stimulation on Pelvic Muscles - pretty technical stuff, but a good way to see the differences in intensity between clitoral and “G” spot orgasms by electromyographic recordings. Also a few links to other pages of Kegel info.
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Oh my goodness.....That was exactly the answer I was looking for Mrs. Puddles!!!
Thanks for going out of your way to post everything!!! KARMA for sure!
I'm gonna do the towel suggestion. I think she was a little bit freaked in thinking it was urine.
I've never had a problem finding the "spot", and I have had about 5 squirters in the past. I think the percentage of chicks that have not had a vaginal orgasm is higher than what is stated. Some only think that there is clitoral stimulation and then continue to think that that is their only "spot".
In the past, I just looked at it like...If they get off with a vaginal orgasm, then great....if not, I know I can get any chick off clitorally. Since this chick has never had one, it makes it kind of cool (actually, a lot of chicks I know haven't had one).
Some great reading! LOL.....I was laughing at the info on some guys that are "shooters" and some that are "ooozers". I'm definately a shooter 90% of the time...
BMJ
Thanks for going out of your way to post everything!!! KARMA for sure!
I'm gonna do the towel suggestion. I think she was a little bit freaked in thinking it was urine.
I've never had a problem finding the "spot", and I have had about 5 squirters in the past. I think the percentage of chicks that have not had a vaginal orgasm is higher than what is stated. Some only think that there is clitoral stimulation and then continue to think that that is their only "spot".
In the past, I just looked at it like...If they get off with a vaginal orgasm, then great....if not, I know I can get any chick off clitorally. Since this chick has never had one, it makes it kind of cool (actually, a lot of chicks I know haven't had one).
Some great reading! LOL.....I was laughing at the info on some guys that are "shooters" and some that are "ooozers". I'm definately a shooter 90% of the time...
BMJ
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I'm gonna do the towel suggestionMR. BMJ said:Oh my goodness.....That was exactly the answer I was looking for Mrs. Puddles!!!
Thanks for going out of your way to post everything!!! KARMA for sure!
I'm gonna do the towel suggestion. I think she was a little bit freaked in thinking it was urine.
I've never had a problem finding the "spot", and I have had about 5 squirters in the past. I think the percentage of chicks that have not had a vaginal orgasm is higher than what is stated. Some only think that there is clitoral stimulation and then continue to think that that is their only "spot".
In the past, I just looked at it like...If they get off with a vaginal orgasm, then great....if not, I know I can get any chick off clitorally. Since this chick has never had one, it makes it kind of cool (actually, a lot of chicks I know haven't had one).
Some great reading! LOL.....I was laughing at the info on some guys that are "shooters" and some that are "ooozers". I'm definately a shooter 90% of the time...
BMJ
I guess I miss this part..What does the towel reffer to?
