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[Jelfa]

Stand Up for What is Right or walk away a coward!(Must Read)

Look at how many great citizens here on the board, in our gyms, and in this whole country Juice. There is a lot of us. We are treated like dirt. Just as on all other issues this country is steadily getting worse. People need to stand up and fight for what is right and not go along with the flow. Just as with the whole bulshit 9/11 patriotism /terror CRAP. Its all crap about money and the benefit of the few while taking the lives of so many with no remorse. This is to all the true patriots out there. I propose that at least for the AAS issue we all pitch together a few dollars a month get an organization growing with a solid chief such as Rick Colins to fight for what is right. At first a small action but eventually it could expand to form chapters and units in each city, state, etc. I am willing to sacrifice monetary gains and time for what is right. Are you?

I would be interested to see if any people would like to get involved, instead of just complaining. Its so sad to see many good people geting fucked up, thrown in jail, not being safe, and hiding in the shadows like vermin when they should be safely and responsibly using quality AAS dispensed by medical profesionals in safe setings This just makes me sick to my stomach!

"Give me liberty or give me death" -Patrick Henry

 

[Jelfa]

31 reads and NO ONE PLEDGING A DOLLAR...SAD, i have no pitty for those who " are to bussy" or laugh at the matter

 

[genarr3]

Tough road with the President speaking out against it. Maybe if Arnold gets in the house?

 

[evander1972]

Words of wisdom there mate

 

[heregothere]

the moral majority determines what is good and bad

in america, it would take a few generations before the conservative base took a more open-minded look at steroids. it will never happen in our lifetime, especially with all of the brouhaha surrounding professional and olympic athletes

 

[Jelfa]

"it will not happen in our lifetime" this is the worst thing you can say, even if it wont Get up and do something start the process. FORM THAT MAJORITY slowly. Oh and FUCK the president. I am a patriot God Bless. Bush= Evil, Most Govt= Evil.

The problem with most issues is that people dont care or think someone else will do something, etc. Well.....YOU MY FELLOW BROTHER ARE THAT PERSON!

 

[madmatt]

Where should I send my $10,000,000 to? How about I just make out a personal check to you! J/K It would be a good idea but it's not as easy as it looks. Good luck! You have my support but I ate got no funds.

 

[little chris]

I would be all for it.

"The government which governs best is the Government which governs least" Thomas Jefferson

 

[Dial_tone]

If legalizing steroids ranks high on your list of the countries' priorities you need to get out more. I'm for scaling back the Patriot act but making the fight about steroids is doomed to fail.

 

[majutsu]

I think you have in mind something like a steroid-NORML? Rick would be a perfect head, these PAC organizations are always headed up by lawyers, probably for good reason. I think, like NORML, you would need to make dues $25 a year or so, because the few dedicated have probably already figured up to $50-$100 for such a cause, lowering the price to $1 will not get you many more people, and just lower your revenue. Plus you would not be able to pay Rick or anyone else enough to leave their practices. . . Also, you need to discuss security issues of the membership list first before anyone serious signs up. Just some tips from the ganja front . . .

 

[tiger88]

i still think they should be illegal but a just lite lite misdomeonor in every state


in some states it is kinda nasty

 

[DaddyX]

i still think they should be illegal but a just lite lite misdomeonor in every state


in some states it is kinda nasty

i AGREE, if they were legal you could have little 14 year olds popping dbols like candy thinking there gonna be the next ronnie coleman. Majority of society thinks they are worse then they are and that will never change. Im not donating shit, sorry bro but it wont ever work IMO. I also agree with what Dial_tone had to say

 

[majutsu]

And don't let people like DialTone or Tiger, who discourage meaningful action, disuade you. They are born followers. It is like all these people who "experiment" with pot in college (as though they had fuckin' white coats and test tubes instead of fritos and MTV, gimme a break . . . ) and later grow up to say it should be illegal after their use, or say it should be legal, but the "fight is doomed" so they're done caring. . . I think people who are passive and arrested for a personal liberty crime should be punished twice as hard as those caught who are activists. They should be punished once for the crime, and once for hypocrisy. If you do steroids, and don't think these laws should be changed then you must either 1) Think the laws are just, and therefore break just laws with impunity. Since murder at your convenience is not out of the question with this philosophy, you have a low moral fiber and can't be trusted, or, more likely, 2) Think the laws are unjust, but don't think they should be changed for anyone other adult than you. Therefore, you don't really care if law is just or unjust, and can't even be said to be participating as a mature, adult citizen in our republic. Usually, these people are just very immature and don't think beyond the immediate gratification of their cycle. They mostly cry after their first arrest about the injustice of it all . . .

 

[Optimus B]

i still think they should be illegal but a just lite lite misdomeonor in every state


in some states it is kinda nasty

how about decriminalizing it "for personal use." up here, we've decriminalized marijuana. so if you get caught with <15g you get a fine (like a parking ticket, usually they don't even bother with the fine). but above 15g, is a criminal offense.

something analogous for juice would be good.

 

[Juice Authority]

And don't let people like DialTone or Tiger, who discourage meaningful action, disuade you. They are born followers. It is like all these people who "experiment" with pot in college (as though they had fuckin' white coats and test tubes instead of fritos and MTV, gimme a break . . . ) and later grow up to say it should be illegal after their use, or say it should be legal, but the "fight is doomed" so they're done caring. . . I think people who are passive and arrested for a personal liberty crime should be punished twice as hard as those caught who are activists. They should be punished once for the crime, and once for hypocrisy. If you do steroids, and don't think these laws should be changed then you must either 1) Think the laws are just, and therefore break just laws with impunity. Since murder at your convenience is not out of the question with this philosophy, you have a low moral fiber and can't be trusted, or, more likely, 2) Think the laws are unjust, but don't think they should be changed for anyone other adult than you. Therefore, you don't really care if law is just or unjust, and can't even be said to be participating as a mature, adult citizen in our republic. Usually, these people are just very immature and don't think beyond the immediate gratification of their cycle. They mostly cry after their first arrest about the injustice of it all . . .

Interesting perspective. The bottomline is steroids in the wrong hands is just as dangerous if not more so than rec drugs. I suppose our society should mirror that of Amsterdam and we can put the "Red Light District" right in downtown Manhattan!

Are you saying that if steroids were legal it would someone make a positive difference in our society??? I hope not. I support the President in what he said in The State of Nation speech. Kids look up to professional sports players and aspire to be more like them. I know I did. If the message these ballplayers are sending is that steroids are necessary to achieve that goal what do you think kids are going to do?

Since the "mature" steroid user is in the minority what you and the thread starter are suggesting is assisine. More than half of the members of this very board - "the mature ones" - are completely clueless about AAS and its consequences. Take a close look at some of these threads and posts.

 

[hardrock]

Though I have my doubts, I think it's a great idea!

 

[JuicePimp]

Legal doesnt have to mean OTC. They could be controlled through MD's who would then again be able to run proper blood work and prescribe them for muscle growth purposes. This would solve the kid on the street eating dbol problem pointed out. The physician would be the gatekeepers, but more people would be allowed to pass than under the current regime.

 

[theoak01]

I think it should be decriminalized in the US like it is here in canada, no real issues with roids,just all the other shit people use like dnp etc that can be fatal

 

[wend]

It would be better for them to be legal and controlled than for there to be a black market. Kids ARE doing roids, or worse, they're doing junk THINKING they're doing roids.

Prohibition of substances, like most paternalistic laws, always backfires. (Didn't prohibition of alcohol teach us anything? All that happened is that organized crime was able to gain strength running gin...it didn't make anyone sober...it just made some criminals rich...and caused the death or blindness of others when they made liquor--poorly-- in stills.)

I have to admit I'm a little disgusted by the lack of understanding exhibited in this thread. This is NOT what America is supposed to be about. Our founders must be spinning in their graves.

 

[Juice Authority]

It would be better for them to be legal and controlled than for there to be a black market. Kids ARE doing roids, or worse, they're doing junk THINKING they're doing roids.

Prohibition of substances, like most paternalistic laws, always backfires. (Didn't prohibition of alcohol teach us anything? All that happened is that organized crime was able to gain strength running gin...it didn't make anyone sober...it just made some criminals rich...and caused the death or blindness of others when they made liquor--poorly-- in stills.)

I have to admit I'm a little disgusted by the lack of understanding exhibited in this thread. This is NOT what America is supposed to be about. Our founders must be spinning in their graves.

You're a moron. Let's just legalize everything! The problem with alcohol is that to this day it's considered "socially accpetable" and before prohibition it was legal. AAS has never been considered socially acceptable and was never legal to possess in this country. Well, I think the laws were different in the 50's
regarding AAS but I don't believe it was ever "legal". People are always pissed when something is taken away from them. They feel entitled. Also, alcohol is physically, mentally, emotionally and psychologically addictive so people would go to greater lengths to get it. That's why prohibition was a joke. Everyone back then turned a blind eye to alcohol including politicians and reformers.

 

[DaddyX]

You're a moron. Let's just legalize everything! The problem with alcohol is that to this day it's considered "socially accpetable" and before prohibition it was legal. People are always pissed when something is taken away from them. They feel entitled. Also, alcohol is physically, mentally, emotionally and psychologically addictive so people woudl go to greater lengths to get it. Prohibition was a joke. Everyone back then turned a blind eye to alcohol including politicians and reformers.

word, karma ! sorry wend but you are a very big moron

 

[Juice Authority]

word, karma ! sorry wend but you are a very big moron

Thanks because moron Wend just hit me with Red karma. What a dork!

 

[DaddyX]

Thanks because moron Wend just hit me with Red karma. What a dork!

same with me LOL that little rat

 

[athlete0185]

your asking a bunch of juicers to donate money? dude im flat broke. all of our money goes to food and the sauce. if i have 5 extra bucks im going to go buy a damn chicken breast.

 

[bowling ball nutz]

more kids look up to rappers who rap about killing and robbing than juicing atheletes. Rap has led to who knows how many shootings and deaths, now thats where the president should be probing, that numb nutt fuck

 

[DaddyX]

your asking a bunch of juicers to donate money? dude im flat broke. all of our money goes to food and the sauce. if i have 5 extra bucks im going to go buy a damn chicken breast.

LMAO !! right on

 

[Juice Authority]

more kids look up to rappers who rap about killing and robbing than juicing atheletes. Rap has led to who knows how many shootings and deaths, now thats where the president should be probing, that numb nutt fuck

You can't do much about the constitution. 1st Ammendment gives people freedom of speech and that includes rappers.

 

[wend]

I personally think the president should be more concerned with the economy and his lame foreign policy than either issue.

And yes, I do think that all substances should either be legal or at least decriminalized. My father was in law enforcement, and the amount of lives lost and money spent trying to combat human nature is insane. It makes much more sense, legally and morally, to make these things legal and put the money into education and control, rather than turning decent people into criminals, tearing families apart with unnecessary prison stays (which cost the taxpayers more money), etc.

And Daddy X, thanks for the nice note. Those who can't take getting red karma when they voice their opinions should keep their own mouths shut. (And to be fair, I gave green karma to the folks I agreed with, until I ran out of it...that IS the purpose of this karmic system, n'est-ce pas?)

And the ad hominem attacks (which you must know the meaning of since you're such a brain trust yourself) are unnecessary. I didn't call anyone a moron (or a rat), even if I thought it.

 

[Dial_tone]

I just want to see things to return to the pre 1991 era

On March 1st 1991, the Federal Anabolic Control Act was put into effect, definig that "Real Anabolic Steroids shall mean any drug or hormonal substance, chemically and pharmacologically related to testosterone." It also put anabolic steroids on the schedule III of the Controlled Substance Act, making them an illegal substance without a prescription.

 

[wend]

(And Daddy X, since when does someone need to have a penis to post in the Anabolic board? That is what you meant when you said I was a dumb bitch and should get off the anabolic board, right?)

 

[Singleton]

...I think people who are passive and arrested for a personal liberty crime should be punished twice as hard as those caught who are activists. They should be punished once for the crime, and once for hypocrisy. . . .

I'm feelin you.

 

[Juice Authority]

(And Daddy X, since when does someone need to have a penis to post in the Anabolic board? That is what you meant when you said I was a dumb bitch and should get off the anabolic board, right?)

Makes sense to me although the same doesn't hold true for a lot of our female members and Mods. You just seem to fit rather nicely in the "Dumb Bitch" category.

 

[Singleton]

Man oh man, you guys are sooo tough with the insults for red karma.

Now Nelson wouldn't've given a fuck. How do I know? Well, cause I hit 'm w/red!

 

[wend]

Well, since I'm a plat and a bodybuilder and have some experience with AAS and my husband has a lot of experience and knowledge, I'm not going to let a couple of macho specimens with fullblown rectal-cranial inversion scare me away.

(And as far as your impugning my intellegence, my IQ is 151 and I graduated from college summa cum laude. How about you?)

 

[wend]

Man oh man, you guys are sooo tough with the insults for red karma.

Now Nelson wouldn't've given a fuck. How do I know? Well, cause I hit 'm w/red!

Yeah, I guess what it takes to be considered a dumb bitch with these guys is to disagree with them.

 

[DaddyX]

(And Daddy X, since when does someone need to have a penis to post in the Anabolic board? That is what you meant when you said I was a dumb bitch and should get off the anabolic board, right?)

LOL, i make myself laugh !!!!!!!!! if you knew anything you would be worthy of posting on the anabolic board but since you don't then yes, leave. Or i will give you red karma

 

[randyjones]

wend you really should go back to the ladies fitness board.You look like a stupid little girl.When we need some advise on the best step class we will pm you.

 

[DaddyX]

And wend stop with the pm's asking to see my penis, im not gonna show you. Next time im gonna report you to a mod

 

[Juice Authority]

Yeah, I guess what it takes to be considered a dumb bitch with these guys is to disagree with them.

Your line of thought is ridiculous. If there was a value to legalizing drugs I'm sure the government would have done so by now and taxed it like they do on alcohol and drugs. The govenment would make a fortune. Look at Singapore or Malaysia. They have a zero tolerance policy on drugs. There's no rehab or alternative sentencing for drug offenders. They get put to death. Why do think the drug problem in those countries is neglible? If anything laws are too lenient in this country.

 

[wend]

LOL, i make myself laugh !!!!!!!!! if you knew anything you would be worthy of posting on the anabolic board but since you don't then yes, leave. Or i will give you red karma

You already DID give me red karma, as did Juice A, which I thought was pretty childish.

Well, my husband's back from the gym, so I'll stop playing with you boys.

 

[DaddyX]

You already DID give me red karma, as did Juice A, which I thought was pretty childish.

Well, my husband's back from the gym, so I'll stop playing with you boys.

childesh ? for returning the red karma.......i rarely give red karma even if i am not getting along in a thread with another member. If you have a husband why were you asking to see my dick ? i don't think he would like that very much.

 

[Singleton]

If there was a value to legalizing drugs I'm sure the government would have done so by now and taxed it like they do on alcohol and drugs.

Right. The government always does the right/most valuable thing.

 

[madmatt]

There you have it.... this post goes to show you how much different we all think on the issue and fuck we all use this shit! How hard would it be to get everyone else on the same page? I don't think our main problem is changing the laws. Our first problem is getting most of us in the body building community to see things the same way and having somewhat reasonable goals to work towards. Our next problem and the hardest would be getting your everyday "Joe" to believe in what we are after. Lets face it...if you do not gain from something why would you speakout about it? Joe is our main mofo! Good old Uncle Sam is a walk in the park.

 

[Juice Authority]

Right. The government always does the right/most valuable thing.

So you're saying legalizing drugs and taxing them would be the right thing for the government to do? No, our government isn't perfect but have more freedom here in the US than most other countries.

 

[Juice Authority]

childesh ? for returning the red karma.......i rarely give red karma even if i am not getting along in a thread with another member. If you have a husband why were you asking to see my dick ? i don't think he would like that very much.

Maybe her husband is bored of listening to her dumbass ideas and she's looking for some attention.

 

[DaddyX]

Maybe her husband is bored of listening to her dumbass ideas and she's looking for some attention.

LOL, bro your making me crack up over here. This thread has gotten funny

 

[madmatt]

ROID RAGE IS OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM! If we could control ourselves we could control the world! LOL!

 

[thelegacy again]

Your line of thought is ridiculous. If there was a value to legalizing drugs I'm sure the government would have done so by now and taxed it like they do on alcohol and drugs. The govenment would make a fortune. Look at Singapore or Malaysia. They have a zero tolerance policy on drugs. There's no rehab or alternative sentencing for drug offenders. They get put to death. Why do think the drug problem in those countries is neglible? If anything laws are too lenient in this country.

Juice authority you are the man--

 

[tiger88]

I personally think the president should be more concerned with the economy and his lame foreign policy than either issue.

And yes, I do think that all substances should either be legal or at least decriminalized. My father was in law enforcement, and the amount of lives lost and money spent trying to combat human nature is insane. It makes much more sense, legally and morally, to make these things legal and put the money into education and control, rather than turning decent people into criminals, tearing families apart with unnecessary prison stays (which cost the taxpayers more money), etc.

And Daddy X, thanks for the nice note. Those who can't take getting red karma when they voice their opinions should keep their own mouths shut. (And to be fair, I gave green karma to the folks I agreed with, until I ran out of it...that IS the purpose of this karmic system, n'est-ce pas?)

And the ad hominem attacks (which you must know the meaning of since you're such a brain trust yourself) are unnecessary. I didn't call anyone a moron (or a rat), even if I thought it.

damn dude u didnt have to give me red karma

i didnt i was nasty to u

 

[Juice Authority]

damn dude u didnt have to give me red karma

i didnt i was nasty to u

This bitch is getting out of control with the red karma thing. She's actually stupid enough to think people give a shit about her red karma.

 

[DaddyX]

This bitch is getting out of control with the red karma thing. She's actually stupid enough to think people give a shit about her red karma.

hahahaha now that were talking karma someone hit me with some green ! only a few more points for another cool dot

 

[GoldenDelicious]

i agree that a lobby group is needed for the reassessment of aas scheduling

i believe that current schedules are out of line in the overall scheme of things.

scheduling should not be influenced by politics. it should be done based on the properties of the drug and its use alone, NOT on what the general (misinformed) public believes to be the truth

how a panel of experts was overruled on this issue is beyond me in this day and age (ok it isnt, but still, its bullshit)

 

[easy]

Karma thread????

 

[mlong23]

Both sides brought up some good points, until it became dumb with all the name calling.

But it would be nice to have this law changed. If there is an organization ever formed I would look to join. It should not be legal to where anyone can go and buy it off the street, but given out by real doctors.

Whats up with all the flaming going on here recently? It seems like every few posts someone is always getting put down hard for no reason other than saying what they think, which is why it is a discussion board.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Re: Stand Up for What is Right or walk away a coward!(Must Read)

Look at how many great citizens here on the board, in our gyms, and in this whole country Juice. There is a lot of us. We are treated like dirt. Just as on all other issues this country is steadily getting worse. People need to stand up and fight for what is right and not go along with the flow. Just as with the whole bulshit 9/11 patriotism /terror CRAP. Its all crap about money and the benefit of the few while taking the lives of so many with no remorse. This is to all the true patriots out there. I propose that at least for the AAS issue we all pitch together a few dollars a month get an organization growing with a solid chief such as Rick Colins to fight for what is right. At first a small action but eventually it could expand to form chapters and units in each city, state, etc. I am willing to sacrifice monetary gains and time for what is right. Are you?

I would be interested to see if any people would like to get involved, instead of just complaining. Its so sad to see many good people geting fucked up, thrown in jail, not being safe, and hiding in the shadows like vermin when they should be safely and responsibly using quality AAS dispensed by medical profesionals in safe setings This just makes me sick to my stomach!

"Give me liberty or give me death" -Patrick Henry

Dude you are fucked up. If you wanna be a junkie and a revolutionary go alone to live under a bridge sticking darts in your ass every day. You are not a good citizen, neither a Patriot. In order to live in peace and harmony we need some laws. Without laws, we can't control perverts like you.

UFO.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Your line of thought is ridiculous. If there was a value to legalizing drugs I'm sure the government would have done so by now and taxed it like they do on alcohol and drugs. The govenment would make a fortune. Look at Singapore or Malaysia. They have a zero tolerance policy on drugs. There's no rehab or alternative sentencing for drug offenders. They get put to death. Why do think the drug problem in those countries is neglible? If anything laws are too lenient in this country.

completely disagree, on the basis of the Amsterdam example where greater drug freedom actually results in lower use, safer use, minimised criminal activity, and most importantly, maintains personal freedoms

its all nicely documented in a few studies which i could dig up, and is a much much nicer way to go about things that the barbarity perpetuated in some countries

furthermore, i strongly doubt that steroids deserve their current scheduling. the various medical and drug control bodies of the day were actually quite opposed to making steroids as illegal as they are today

 

[slat1]

Even though there was some name calling going around... I have to say that it is good to see that everyone has strong feelings about this topic.
There are so many issues at hand here that they can not all be listed. One problem that was not touched upon is the cost of insurance and how it effects our population as a whole. Health problems attributed to people being obese cost the insurance industry $270 billion last year... that is not a misprint. That cost is passed on to us.
I don't think AAS should be entirely legal yet I do not think you should be a criminal for using them properly. I believe the majority of the people here joined this board to share knowledge and are using AAS safely. What scares me are the morons who don't take the time to learn like we have who would go to extremes causing all sorts of medical problems that would play out in the media. I can see how insurance companies would jack up our premium even farther with out basis due to some uneducated person almost killing themself.
That said... I will continue to use AAS and hope that I never get caught because it would ruin my career. I don't have a solution... I just know there is a problem.
PS. I used to work in the Senate in DC so I know how the good old boy network goes... This would be a long hard battle. I am just glad there are people on this board who would go to war along side me!

 

[GoldenDelicious]

i reckon the way to spin it is to hit up the medical bodies to chip in their 2c next time there is a sheduling review

furthermore outline the cost savings in not having to enforce it from the viewpoint of policing authorities

potentially use drug manufacturers as your sponsors...

then go to war.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Different perspectives are wonderful!

Our government has clearly demonstrated in the past that passing laws and taxes rarely has much forethought, ethics or morals involved. Most of the time it's to feed the outrage of the day, pacify some special interest group or to raise some quick revenue. It doesn't take a lot of investigating to see that there are several hundred thousands of laws on the books locally and federally which have no real value in today's society and are in fact very arbitrary. (e.g. Just spit on a sidewalk in the wrong Texas town, or even sell an adult a dildo there and see just how much trouble you can get into.) These laws are not universal across the US let alone across the world.

The Steroid control act in itself was a politically motivated special interest by a couple of people within congress. Then it was fueled by misinformation, deliberate ignorance of the government agencies own findings and then fueled by a media feeding frenzy of misinformation and wow factor Jerry Springerish hype.

Using an extreme such as in Singapore or Malaysia and the putting to death of people for drugs doesn’t do a thing to bolster the perspective brought forth. Putting someone to death for using drugs is entirely immoral.

 

[Juice Authority]

completely disagree, on the basis of the Amsterdam example where greater drug freedom actually results in lower use, safer use, minimised criminal activity, and most importantly, maintains personal freedoms

its all nicely documented in a few studies which i could dig up, and is a much much nicer way to go about things that the barbarity perpetuated in some countries

Then move to Amsterdam! Also, go ahead and post those studies you referenced. They'd be good for a hoot if they even exist, which I highly doubt. Come on, post them up. Ball's in your court.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

Then move to Amsterdam! Also, go ahead and post those studies you referenced. They'd be good for a hoot if they even exist, which I highly doubt. Come on, post them up. Ball's in your court.

ok, later on

need sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep......*

 

[randyjones]

I don't understand why I would be placed in prison for using steroids?I am hurting nobody and I am helping myself stay fit.I think steroids promote a healthy lifestyle.I will never understand why a person in a "free" country would be locked away with killers for buying steroids.Doesn't make any sense.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

you dont have to understand. just shut up and do as youre told, apparently

and some people like it that way

 

[DaddyX]

can't we all just get along

 

[solidspine]

It is literally swinging for the bleachers in the bottom of the nineth.

But you have 100% of my support and willing to contribute fianances to your efforts

 

[bigp3]

where do I send my check

 

[thelegacy again]

I'm not giving any money to "legalizing steroid fund" give me a break--they SHOULD be illegal--and just cuz i have different views doesnt mean i am cowering it means i am looking out for the well being of others..If this somehow did happen and steroids was legalized then someone would start a organization for legalizing crack...whoever started this post doesnt sound to bright considering he mispelled half his words and he obviously only thinks of sticking needles in his ass--to me there are much much more important things to worry about then legalizing steroids so if you want money go rob a bank

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Quoted from: thelegacy again

I'm not giving any money to "legalizing steroid fund" give me a break--they SHOULD be illegal--and just cuz i have different views doesnt mean i am cowering it means i am looking out for the well being of others..If this somehow did happen and steroids was legalized then someone would start a organization for legalizing crack...whoever started this post doesnt sound to bright considering he mispelled half his words and he obviously only thinks of sticking needles in his ass--to me there are much much more important things to worry about then legalizing steroids so if you want money go rob a bank

Ok, I’m ignoring the fact that robbing a bank is highly illegal and yet you're recommending someone goes out and robs one to get funds for something they believe in, and the obvious misspellings and missed punctuation. I’m also ignoring the fact that only the MALE steroids are controlled by the Steroid Control Act. You can get female steroids all you want. As a matter of fact, girls of the age of puberty and up are GIVEN steroids for birth control. Either by their parents, or by planned parenthood organizations.

Steroids are NOT “illegal”. (See previous comment about female steroids) I’m not sure why you believe that they should be illegal, but that’s not important. Anabolic/Androgenic Steroids are a Schedule III controlled substance in the U.S. I am presently taking steroids LEGALLY, since I’m on HRT. I have a doctor’s prescription and go through regular blood tests and exams by my doctor for side-effects and potential complications. Heck it’s all even paid for by my medical insurance.

AAS do not belong on Schedule III. They should never have gone on Schedule III. The politics and other crap that went on to pass the Steroid Control Act is a large amount of old boy networking in congress and grandstanding news stories by the media.

I have a large difficulty getting appropriate treatment for Hypogonadism primarily because my primary care physician has little or no knowledge about how to treat it, and the knowledge she does possess isn’t accurate. The notion she has of AAS is one of stark terror, prostrate cancer and roid rage. Which means I’m seeking out other routes to get my testosterone up to an appropriate level, as well as make sure my balls don’t shrink to the size of a gerbil. I wouldn’t even have known a bit about AAS if it hadn’t been discovered at a yearly physical that I have the testosterone level of a woman. My doctor’s ignorance forced me to do enough research on it to know what should be done for my body. That research also brought me to this lovely place.

AAS are not on the same playing field as crack, LSD, codine, morphine and the likes of other drugs on Schedule III. They didn’t belong on there before the act was passed and they don’t belong there now. Even the governments own studies by the DEA and HHS made recommendations AGAINST them being Schedule III.

 

[Vectork39]

Hey i was going to hold off but i have some very good information for you guys....i am taking a critical issues class and the 3 major topics are 1) Gun Control 2) Drug Policy and 3) death penalty

in terms of Drug Policy i had the opportunity to interview David Borden from StoptheDrugWar.org (DRCnet) and John Horton (ONDCP) i asked them both about legalization of drugs, including marijuana, designer drugs and yes, even steroids, although by looking at me im sure they thought i juiced anyway....well they had some interesting opinions and they know quite a bit more than just about every person on the board. I feel like an asshole for doin this but i have to go to class in a few minutes but i'll post some of what each person said in about 3 hours. Some of the facts and figures suprised even me and their reasoning is supported by actual research, so i dont want to seem like im leading you guys on but i had to say sumthin and i will entertain you guys when i get back....

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Hey i was going to hold off but i have some very good information for you guys....i am taking a critical issues class and the 3 major topics are 1) Gun Control 2) Drug Policy and 3) death penalty

Geeze all you have to do is toss in gay marriage and prayer in school and you could have a grand time!

 

[Jelfa]

And don't let people like DialTone or Tiger, who discourage meaningful action, disuade you. They are born followers. It is like all these people who "experiment" with pot in college (as though they had fuckin' white coats and test tubes instead of fritos and MTV, gimme a break . . . ) and later grow up to say it should be illegal after their use, or say it should be legal, but the "fight is doomed" so they're done caring. . . I think people who are passive and arrested for a personal liberty crime should be punished twice as hard as those caught who are activists. They should be punished once for the crime, and once for hypocrisy. If you do steroids, and don't think these laws should be changed then you must either 1) Think the laws are just, and therefore break just laws with impunity. Since murder at your convenience is not out of the question with this philosophy, you have a low moral fiber and can't be trusted, or, more likely, 2) Think the laws are unjust, but don't think they should be changed for anyone other adult than you. Therefore, you don't really care if law is just or unjust, and can't even be said to be participating as a mature, adult citizen in our republic. Usually, these people are just very immature and don't think beyond the immediate gratification of their cycle. They mostly cry after their first arrest about the injustice of it all . . .

Thanks bro to you and all the other good bro's who back me on this issue. It's sad to see a few idiots hanging around the board though. As far as my spelling. I type fast and do not include spelling as my #1 priority when i am typing a post. I am a college student with a 3.7 Gpa( For those who felt the need to criticiz e my spelling ). Anyways.....to all the people who obviously are ignorant and failed to comprehend my post .. I stated that AAS should be prescribed by a physician, NOT OTC!! Why would a normal person allow for something to be illegal when it should not be? AAS should be available for personal use to adults. As one bro wrote "some people seem to like to be told what to do and have no say" it appears you are unfortunately right. These are uneducated people and frankly speaking morons. I was not born in this country and that is all the more reason i respect what the constitution and the men who fought for it such as Thomas Jefferson , Benjamin Franklin, and Patrick Henry to name a few stand for. The select few who ignorantly responded to my post just show a sickening disrespect to the many great men(& women) who devoted and or lost their lives so that those ignorant people could have the freedom that they take for granted today.

 

[Jelfa]

One more coment. If you have nothing informative to say and wish to insult other people as some of you started in this thread, do it somewhere else but not on this post!

Thanks to all the good bros,

 

[Jelfa]

You're a moron. Let's just legalize everything! The problem with alcohol is that to this day it's considered "socially accpetable" and before prohibition it was legal. AAS has never been considered socially acceptable and was never legal to possess in this country. Well, I think the laws were different in the 50's
regarding AAS but I don't believe it was ever "legal". People are always pissed when something is taken away from them. They feel entitled. Also, alcohol is physically, mentally, emotionally and psychologically addictive so people would go to greater lengths to get it. That's why prohibition was a joke. Everyone back then turned a blind eye to alcohol including politicians and reformers.

You said, Well, I think the laws were different in the 50's
regarding AAS but I don't believe it was ever "legal".

Sory, but instead of calling other bros morons you may wish to actually put some factual information in that empty head of yours. Steroids were criminalized(schedule III') in the Mid and late 80's.

 

[Jelfa]

One more point bros. The morons who think steroids should remain illegal(s-3) should not be members of this board!!! That is the direct defenition of Hypocrisy)

 

[DaddyX]

One more point bros. The morons who think steroids should remain illegal(s-3) should not be members of this board!!! That is the direct defenition of Hypocrisy)

stop yapping already, geez your just annoying.......thanks

 

[Juice Authority]

One more point bros. The morons who think steroids should remain illegal(s-3) should not be members of this board!!! That is the direct defenition of Hypocrisy)

Dude, take your 12 posts and go run your mouth on some left-wing liberal hippy board.

Here - this should get you started.

http://www.kenzia.com/left/

 

[Juice Authority]

One more point bros. The morons who think steroids should remain illegal(s-3) should not be members of this board!!! That is the direct defenition of Hypocrisy)

Or better yet you can join this group...

http://www.a4a.mahost.org/

 

[Juice Authority]

You said, Well, I think the laws were different in the 50's
regarding AAS but I don't believe it was ever "legal".

Sory, but instead of calling other bros morons you may wish to actually put some factual information in that empty head of yours. Steroids were criminalized(schedule III') in the Mid and late 80's.

Yes, AAS was criminalized in the late 80's and made a controlled substance and later in '91 it became a Schedule III. Prior to that it wasn't "legal" to possess without a script. Are you suggesting that AAS was an "over-the-counter" medication before it was made a controlled substance??? Moron!! Get a fucking clue.

 

[Pamela]

I can't believe you can't discuss this issue with women openly without flaming.

This is not a male only board.




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