FUCKED up news...

[Bulldog_10]

My brother is apparently going to jail.

He got caught selling weed about a year ago or so. They raided his house with guns drawn and whatnot...found 2 fucking ounces of weed, took all the cash in his place ($8k or so), all his bank accounts etc...

They had some punk go into his house and buy an ounce off him too. So they have him for selling an ounce, and possession of two ounces. They said they'll drop the sale, and give him felony possession if he goes to county jail for a year.

This is the first time ANYTHING is on his record, completely clean...college graduate and whatnot.

Anyone else think there's something wrong with this picture?

 

[Bulldog_10]

Anyone know how I can find the name of the DA in his area? Is there a website with info like that? I'd like to write a letter or something...this is just fucking rediculous.

 

[jestros]

yeah, he sold an ounce to some punk he didnt know. Gets whats coming to him. I've been arrested a few times, but only when I've done something stupid.

 

[Razorguns]

get a lawyer. what can we do? never plead anything w/o a good lawyer.

 

[Dougly]

My brother is apparently going to jail.


This is the first time ANYTHING is on his record, completely clean...college graduate and whatnot.

Completley fucked up. Has he gone to trial yet?

 

[Bulldog_10]

yeah, he sold an ounce to some punk he didnt know. Gets whats coming to him. I've been arrested a few times, but only when I've done something stupid.

He knew the fucking kid...it was a "friend" of his who got caught and turned rat. So fuck yourself, bitch.

 

[onebigab]

Something doesn't sound right. Usually they would rather get you for selling than just possession.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

My brother is apparently going to jail.

He got caught selling weed about a year ago or so. They raided his house with guns drawn and whatnot...found 2 fucking ounces of weed, took all the cash in his place ($8k or so), all his bank accounts etc...

They had some punk go into his house and buy an ounce off him too. So they have him for selling an ounce, and possession of two ounces. They said they'll drop the sale, and give him felony possession if he goes to county jail for a year.

This is the first time ANYTHING is on his record, completely clean...college graduate and whatnot.

Anyone else think there's something wrong with this picture?

Sounds like a bunch of impotent small dicked jackasses covering their asses. 2oz of weed and they went in with guns drawn? Nice inept police work. Their communities should be so proud.

 

[Bulldog_10]

get a lawyer. what can we do? never plead anything w/o a good lawyer.

Supposedly, he has the best lawyer around. Personally, I think the guy's a fucking moron.

 

[BrandonXJ]

That sucks man.. I hope everything works out for him..

Here's a list of US Attrn offices, but that's for federal offenses..

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/offices/

I'm sure you can search your particular states website and find the info.

 

[FISHTALES]

he should just get probation...get a good lawyer...money will buy justice

 

[Bulldog_10]

Completley fucked up. Has he gone to trial yet?

No, his lawyer said he should take the plea, cuz if it goes to trial he won't be able to do anything...he says it's "not defendable."

And he says if it goes to trial, he'll get 2 years in state prison. I just don't see a judge sentencing something like that for a first offense.

 

[d3track]

his friend is a fuck wad

 

[Buddy_Christ]

for 2 OUNCES?!

guy i knew a few years ago got nailed with 1/4lb. never been in trouble before either. the case was sent to "drug court" and he ended up getting 3 years of pretty strict probation. if he broke the probation in any way shape or form, the case would be sent to court with charges of possession, possession with intent to distribute, etc. i don't think ANY of the charges were felony charges though.

so he's still battling the charges? hope he's got a good lawyer. 2 ounces...that's petty shit. a good lawyer should be able to plea bargain it down further than felony possession.

hope things work out for your brother man.

 

[jh1]

He won't serve a year for selling an ounce of weed... that would be highly unlikely.

Get a lawyer, he'll get probation... probably with the condition of a substance abuse program. Look... they always tell you your getting the worst to scare you into turning a rat.

Turning the rat like the guy did to him is way harsher of a scenario then getting a lawyer and fighting it and taking the probabtion. I know a kid that was faced with that choice and in the end talked to others that turned, and realized they make your life hell... it never ends, don't cooperate, piss them off the threat of jail comes back.

You're better off lawyering up and taking the probation and moving on with your life. The rat things never ends, and makes your life hard.

 

[Bulldog_10]

for 2 OUNCES?!

guy i knew a few years ago got nailed with 1/4lb. never been in trouble before either. the case was sent to "drug court" and he ended up getting 3 years of pretty strict probation. if he broke the probation in any way shape or form, the case would be sent to court with charges of possession, possession with intent to distribute, etc. i don't think ANY of the charges were felony charges though.

so he's still battling the charges? hope he's got a good lawyer. 2 ounces...that's petty shit. a good lawyer should be able to plea bargain it down further than felony possession.

hope things work out for your brother man.

Thanks bro. I know people who've gotten caught with ALOT more than a couple ounces...and alot worse drugs...and they didn't get shit.

One of my friends has a rap sheet a mile long, and last year he almost beat someone to death. He was supposed to get like 3 years in prison, and he didn't end up getting shit.

This just doesn't make ANY sense to me...

 

[Bulldog_10]

He won't serve a year for selling an ounce of weed... that would be highly unlikely.

Get a lawyer, he'll get probation... probably with the condition of a substance abuse program. Look... they always tell you your getting the worst to scare you into turning a rat.

Turning the rat like the guy did to him is way harsher of a scenario then getting a lawyer and fighting it and taking the probabtion. I know a kid that was faced with that choice and in the end talked to others that turned, and realized they make your life hell... it never ends, don't cooperate, piss them off the threat of jail comes back.

You're better off lawyering up and taking the probation and moving on with your life. The rat things never ends, and makes your life hard.

My exact thoughts...but this is a year old. They've tried to get him to turn rat, and he told them to fuck themselves. He's got "the best lawyer in the area."

This is like the final decision...we're past the point where they might just try to strong-arm him into turning rat...that's why this is so confusing.

I thought the whole time the lawyer was just giving worst case scenarios, so it would look good in the end and look like he got him out of this huge mess...but it turns out this lawyer didn't do SHIT for him.

 

[alien amp pharm]

I had a friend that got busted for several pounds of mary-j. He ended up ratting two of his friends out (wearing a wire and getting them to sell to an undercover cop). So he ended getting off of it.

I can't remember how much he sold to the cop, but my other friend (that he set up) only spent like a month in jail and had a few years probation.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

My exact thoughts...but this is a year old. They've tried to get him to turn rat, and he told them to fuck themselves. He's got "the best lawyer in the area."

This is like the final decision...we're past the point where they might just try to strong-arm him into turning rat...that's why this is so confusing.

I thought the whole time the lawyer was just giving worst case scenarios, so it would look good in the end and look like he got him out of this huge mess...but it turns out this lawyer didn't do SHIT for him.

Have him find another attorney. If that is the best they can do that attorney is actually a used car salesman in disquise. Either that or he's on the DA's payroll.

 

[Razorguns]

his lawyer is lazy and wants to avoid the paperwork. i'd rather spend 1 year in court defending myself, then 1 year in jail. tell him to get another lawyer and fight tooth and nail.

 

[Bulldog_10]

his lawyer is lazy and wants to avoid the paperwork. i'd rather spend 1 year in court defending myself, then 1 year in jail. tell him to get another lawyer and fight tooth and nail.

That's what i said. I just don't see any judge handing out a 2 year jail sentence to a first time offender for some weed. But it's pretty much too late to get a new lawyer now.

I don't know what to do at all...this just isn't right.

 

[the nature boy]

fuck taking a plea. If you go to court and he loses I don't see him getting any worse than 2 years, so what does he have to lose.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

That's what i said. I just don't see any judge handing out a 2 year jail sentence to a first time offender for some weed. But it's pretty much too late to get a new lawyer now.

I don't know what to do at all...this just isn't right.

Why is it too late to get a new lawyer? Something about this sound hugely fishy.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Why is it too late to get a new lawyer? Something about this sound hugely fishy.

That's what my brother said. Basically because he's already given this guy close to $20k or so I think, and he's been working on the case since it happened last year.

I don't know how those things work...but I would think it would be hard for a new lawyer to jump into the mix now...and probably expensive.

And nature boy...I agree...but this lawyer basically told him he won't win...it's "not defendable" and he'll get 2 years in STATE prison, whereas now he'd only get 1 year in COUNTY prison.

I wish i knew more about this shit...because this just IS NOT RIGHT!

 

[Lestat]

This is exactly what is wrong with George W. Bush.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

That's what my brother said. Basically because he's already given this guy close to $20k or so I think, and he's been working on the case since it happened last year.

I don't know how those things work...but I would think it would be hard for a new lawyer to jump into the mix now...and probably expensive.

And nature boy...I agree...but this lawyer basically told him he won't win...it's "not defendable" and he'll get 2 years in STATE prison, whereas now he'd only get 1 year in COUNTY prison.

I wish i knew more about this shit...because this just IS NOT RIGHT!

It isn't right. His lawyer isn't doing his job if that is the only offer on the table. OR there is more behind this than your brother is telling you. He can and should get another lawyer or at least consult one before he makes any decision...

 

[WODIN]

Sucks ass man. Shit should be totally legal.

 

[Bulldog_10]

It isn't right. His lawyer isn't doing his job if that is the only offer on the table. OR there is more behind this than your brother is telling you. He can and should get another lawyer or at least consult one before he makes any decision...

Yeah...there's not more to the story...I've been there the whole way. He has no reason to lie to me anyways.

It's been a fucking long road of drama the whole time. He's been indicted like four times, they've offered him shitty plea bargains...the lawyer doesn't return phone calls and is never available...just a bunch of bullshit.

I never understood why people don't like lawyers...i think i get it now.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

welcome to america, land of the free.

Maybe now you'll write a letter or make a phone call when dumbass laws passes ad politicans campaign on bullshit instead of sitting on your ass in front of a relaity TV show.

Apathy comes home.


As to the case, I am sorry bor, I've been through the system from many angles. 2 years state jail, seems unlikely, I know arsonists who did less.

Then again...drug laws.

Never heard a defenese atty say something could not be defended either.....lazy maybe. Get the other kid on the stand, etc

Trials are expensive though - another consideration.

good luck bor

 

[Scotsman]

Welcome to the war on drugs and mandatory sentencing. Brought to you by the wonderful idiots of the reagan administration. This is why prisons are over crowded and they let actual criminals out so they can put in some poor schmuck who sold an ounce of weed or a gram of coke to a "friend".

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Bulldog_10]

welcome to america, land of the free. when dumbass laws pass instrad of sitting on your ass in front of a reality TV show.

Maybe now you'll write a letter or make a phone call when dumbass laws passes ad politicans campaign on bullshit instead of sitting on your ass in front of a relaity TV show.

Apathy comes home.


As to the case, I am sorry bor, I've been through the system from many angles. 2 years state jail, seems unlikely, I know arsonists who did less.

Then again...drug laws.

Never heard a defenese atty say something could not be defended either.....lazy maybe. Get the other kid on the stand, etc

Trials are expensive though - another consideration.

good luck bor

Seriously...this shit is fucked up. I've known so many people, with SUCH bad records, who've done MUCH worse and gotten probation or shit like that.

I guess that's NH for ya.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Welcome to the war on drugs and mandatory sentencing. Brought to you by the wonderful idiots of the reagan administration. This is why prisons are over crowded and they let actual criminals out so they can put in some poor schmuck who sold an ounce of weed or a gram of coke to a "friend".

Cheers,
Scotsman

That's what pisses me off...if he did something worthy of going to jail for...fine, I wouldn't make a fuss. But selling a few ounces of weed is hardly worth a year in jail. Plus his life will be completely fucked. He won't be able to get a job...he's already lost a job because of this, and he got turned down at interviews because it said "pending case" when they ran a background check.

So before it even went to trial and got a conviction, they fucked his job situation...what if he was innocent? I guess that doesn't matter, huh?

 

[strongsmartsexy]

That's what pisses me off...if he did something worthy of going to jail for...fine, I wouldn't make a fuss. But selling a few ounces of weed is hardly worth a year in jail. Plus his life will be completely fucked. He won't be able to get a job...he's already lost a job because of this, and he got turned down at interviews because it said "pending case" when they ran a background check.

So before it even went to trial and got a conviction, they fucked his job situation...what if he was innocent? I guess that doesn't matter, huh?

Nope, you're still guilty in the public eye until proven innocent, and even at that there is always an air of suspicion.

These guys don't care how fucked someone else's life is. They're "just doing their jobs". *gag*

 

[Bulldog_10]

Nope, you're still guilty in the public eye until proven innocent, and even at that there is always an air of suspicion.

These guys don't care how fucked someone else's life is. They're "just doing their jobs". *gag*

Ugh...I feel so fucking helpless...and you don't even know what this is gonna do (and has already done) to my family. My father is a retired firefighter, won the god damn medal of honor, and this will fucking kill him...literally.

 

[Scotsman]

That's what pisses me off...if he did something worthy of going to jail for...fine, I wouldn't make a fuss. But selling a few ounces of weed is hardly worth a year in jail. Plus his life will be completely fucked. He won't be able to get a job...he's already lost a job because of this, and he got turned down at interviews because it said "pending case" when they ran a background check.

So before it even went to trial and got a conviction, they fucked his job situation...what if he was innocent? I guess that doesn't matter, huh?

Exactly if it had been like a couple of kilos then yeah jail time but two fucking ounces? Yep he won't be able to get most jobs, buy a gun, go to any accredited college, get some loans, and some other shit.

If he is aquitted of this and can prove that is why he lost the jobs then maybe he can do a civil suit for punative(sp?) damages.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Seriously...this shit is fucked up. I've known so many people, with SUCH bad records, who've done MUCH worse and gotten probation or shit like that.

I guess that's NH for ya.

NH, wow.

So much for 'live free or die'. I lived up there for a year.

if he goes in, best thing you ca do is support him, visit, bring hi whatever you can (books, pads, pens etc), county jail isa lot of sitting on your ass and passing tiem with nothing.

 

[pitbullstl]

No, his lawyer said he should take the plea, cuz if it goes to trial he won't be able to do anything...he says it's "not defendable."

And he says if it goes to trial, he'll get 2 years in state prison. I just don't see a judge sentencing something like that for a first offense.

State charges are always trumped up......there is no one on this board who could give you the correct info you are looking for, unless A. they have been charged with the same offense in the same state/county. B. they are a practicing attorney in said state/county.

The only way someone could give you an accurate disposition otherwise, would be if this was a federal charge, then there are basic guidelines, and departures for first time offenders.

Your best bet is to check the local laws, and get all the facts. I have had multiple friends get fucked on state charges, for small time shit federal is always better, but for the most part they will plead it down to a state level, unless a maganitude of federal resources were used to secure the charge.

Good luck bro....

 

[Bulldog_10]

NH, wow.

So much for 'live free or die'. I lived up there for a year.

Yeah...they got this drug task force up there...and from what i can gather, they spend a shitload of money busting petty criminals...I'm sure people in NH will feel a lot more safe knowing some kid who sold a couple ounces is off the street.

I don't think they've busted too many other people...not that i've heard of at least.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Yeah...they got this drug task force up there...and from what i can gather, they spend a shitload of money busting petty criminals...I'm sure people in NH will feel a lot more safe knowing some kid who sold a couple ounces is off the street.

I don't think they've busted too many other people...not that i've heard of at least.

Because they're cowards and they know the petty criminals don't shoot back. The people in NH are in huge trouble if they're doing this instead of going after large crime. Either that or they have large crime so in hand that they need to reduce the budget 'cause these folks have way too much time and money on their hands.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Because they're cowards and they know the petty criminals don't shoot back. The people in NH are in huge trouble if they're doing this instead of going after large crime. Either that or they have large crime so in hand that they need to reduce the budget 'cause these folks have way too much time and money on their hands.

Yeah...from what I hear (not sure if it's true) they actually have a problem up there with rapist/molesters.

 

[Gambino]

Bro I feel for you...the same thing happened to my roomates. We were both slinging and ounce or 2 here and there...some dipshit that I sold to repeatedly came knocking for me, I wasn't there, my other slinging roomate was, and he made the deal. The kid had a wire on and he bought a fucking 8th...I'm sure the wire cost more than the $50 eighter. Anyway, 3 weeks later the narco swat team came crashing in. They came in from mulitple doors...surrounded the whole house, you would've thought Pablo Escobar was inside. The absolutley trashed our house, it looked like a robbery. Clothes everywhere, food on the floor, computer disks confiscated, fucking bizarre. After their 3 hour search, they turned up a lousy quarter of dank and a triple beam. Still, they charged my buddy with two felony's (distribution and manufacture) and a misdemenour. He was looking at a stretch but he kept his mouth shut. Due to some police shadiness, he completely walked...fuck you Lansing Narcotics Team!!!

 

[Bulldog_10]

Bro I feel for you...the same thing happened to my roomates. We were both slinging and ounce or 2 here and there...some dipshit that I sold to repeatedly came knocking for me, I wasn't there, my other slinging roomate was, and he made the deal. The kid had a wire on and he bought a fucking 8th...I'm sure the wire cost more than the $50 eighter. Anyway, 3 weeks later the narco swat team came crashing in. They came in from mulitple doors...surrounded the whole house, you would've thought Pablo Escobar was inside. The absolutley trashed our house, it looked like a robbery. Clothes everywhere, food on the floor, computer disks confiscated, fucking bizarre. After their 3 hour search, they turned up a lousy quarter of dank and a triple beam. Still, they charged my buddy with two felony's (distribution and manufacture) and a misdemenour. He was looking at a stretch but he kept his mouth shut. Due to some police shadiness, he completely walked...fuck you Lansing Narcotics Team!!!

Fucking same exact situation! Damn, this shit is fucked up. My bro said they came in the house, guns drawn...guns in everyone's face. His roomate and his girlfriend were there, and the cops had guns pointed at them. They stripped my brother down naked, with a gun in his face and trashed the place. Pretty fucked up if ya ask me.

 

[Gambino]

The reason you buddy is facing a longer stretch could be because the amount of loot found at the house. 8k is nothing to sneeze at, the prosecutor and judge certainly know about this. They are giving him a stretch 'cause they think he is a high-roller. They know how much weed costs, someone with that cash is slinging lbs., not just a zero or two. The 2 year deal is probably the max penalty, completely legal for a judge to dole out. I highly doubt the lawyer is slacking...w/o knowing much more, I would say take the plea. Those fuckers love to grind it to people, and if you waste their time with a trial they get pissed. Take a plea, become trustee in the first two weeks, try to get work release, hope for overcrowding (usually results in non-violent offenders getting released early)...

 

[Bulldog_10]

The reason you buddy is facing a longer stretch could be because the amount of loot found at the house. 8k is nothing to sneeze at, the prosecutor and judge certainly know about this. They are giving him a stretch 'cause they think he is a high-roller. They know how much weed costs, someone with that cash is slinging lbs., not just a zero or two. The 2 year deal is probably the max penalty, completely legal for a judge to dole out. I highly doubt the lawyer is slacking...w/o knowing much more, I would say take the plea. Those fuckers love to grind it to people, and if you waste their time with a trial they get pissed. Take a plea, become trustee in the first two weeks, try to get work release, hope for overcrowding (usually results in non-violent offenders getting released early)...

Yeah...but he was makin some good cash at work, which is where most of that money came from. He had the cash on hand (and not in the bank) because he was planning ono spending it on his new car...he was gonna buy a bunch of shit for it with cash...rims, tv's, and whatnot. He wasn't one to save money...they should probably take that into acct. I'm sure if they looked at the amount of money he was making at work, and compared that to what was in his bank acct, they'd realize all that $8k didn't come from weed.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Yeah...but he was makin some good cash at work, which is where most of that money came from. He had the cash on hand (and not in the bank) because he was planning ono spending it on his new car...he was gonna buy a bunch of shit for it with cash...rims, tv's, and whatnot. He wasn't one to save money...they should probably take that into acct. I'm sure if they looked at the amount of money he was making at work, and compared that to what was in his bank acct, they'd realize all that $8k didn't come from weed.

I guess that's the lawyer's job though

 

[Code]

He shouldn't have sold to someone, that's whats wrong with the picture.

It's not like the laws were just made or anything. I'm sure he knew the risk.

 

[Bulldog_10]

He shouldn't have sold to someone, that's whats wrong with the picture.

It's not like the laws were just made or anything. I'm sure he knew the risk.

I realize this...but lots of people fuck up, multiple times...and get off scott free. Don't get me wrong, I know what he did was wrong...but should the punishment not fit the crime?

 

[Gambino]

Yeah...but he was makin some good cash at work, which is where most of that money came from. He had the cash on hand (and not in the bank) because he was planning ono spending it on his new car...he was gonna buy a bunch of shit for it with cash...rims, tv's, and whatnot. He wasn't one to save money...they should probably take that into acct. I'm sure if they looked at the amount of money he was making at work, and compared that to what was in his bank acct, they'd realize all that $8k didn't come from weed.

Sorry bro, this will probably be unexplainable in court. Anyway you slice it, they found the money in a suspected drug house. Their is just too many concidences...judges never buy this shit. Besides, everyone has explanations like this.
large amount loot + possession/distrubution controlled substance = not good.

sorry for my cold outlook, but I know from experience...

 

[Bulldog_10]

Sorry bro, this will probably be unexplainable in court. Anyway you slice it, they found the money in a suspected drug house. Their is just too many concidences...judges never buy this shit. Besides, everyone has explanations like this.
large amount loot + possession/distrubution controlled substance = not good.

sorry for my cold outlook, but I know from experience...

I know bro...and I appreciate your help...I'm not really just looking for everyone to agree with me...just trying to figure out what's going on here. And if there's anything I can do, or anything that can be done by anyone...ya know?


I ran out of karma for the day...but will hit everyone i missed when i recharge.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Sorry bro, this will probably be unexplainable in court. Anyway you slice it, they found the money in a suspected drug house. Their is just too many concidences...judges never buy this shit. Besides, everyone has explanations like this.
large amount loot + possession/distrubution controlled substance = not good.

sorry for my cold outlook, but I know from experience...

And in the end they're not really interested in justice at all. They're interested in obtaining as many convictions as possible of the highest level possible to pad their resumes. And, if they can seize a lot of property and money in the process even better for their resumes and budget. No matter if it's "right" or appropriate. Not to mention that they'll stick by their guns if they screwed up even if it means fucking someone else over.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

bad news, over 28grams is felony in Texas I believe. I guess that is one ounce.

clean record, should get community service and 5-10 yrs of probation, with proper legal representation.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

bad news, over 28grams is felony in Texas I believe. I guess that is one ounce.

clean record, should get community service and 5-10 yrs of probation, with proper legal representation.

Think of it this way, if he was a Senator or Congressman he could get away with going to some fancy drug rehab program and all the publicity required for re-election!

 

[Gambino]

Bro, it could be a lottttt worse. At least he has his health. This could end up being a positive experience in many regards. For example, he won't be slinging anymore. Low level slinging has a way of snowballing, it's probably better he got out of the game now...provided you don't live in Compton or NYC county clinks are pretty easy going...he'll surivive and come out a stronger man...

 

[chewyxrage]

oh.....shit....

I'm sorry bro wish your brother the best of luck....that is so fucked

 

[Scotsman]

Think of it this way, if he was a Senator or Congressman he could get away with going to some fancy drug rehab program and all the publicity required for re-election!

Nate Newton (ex-dallas cowboy lineman) got caught with 250lbs of marijuana in his van. Did a short stint on probation and in rehab. Gets caught again with even more and gets sentenced to like 6mos time served. I don't remember the exact details of it except for the amount of dope. He got off why because he is rich and famous(at least in texas) Money talks bullshit walks.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Bulldog_10]

Bro, it could be a lottttt worse. At least he has his health. This could end up being a positive experience in many regards. For example, he won't be slinging anymore. Low level slinging has a way of snowballing, it's probably better he got out of the game now...provided you don't live in Compton or NYC county clinks are pretty easy going...he'll surivive and come out a stronger man...

I guess so bro...but seriously, he just graduated a couple years ago with a business degree, had some good jobs since then...had some shit lined up...and now that's all over. Sure, the jail time won't be too bad, but what's he gonna tell his friends, family etc.? He just got a solid job to make some cash, while he waited to find out what was gonna happen, and now he's gonna lose THAT because he's gotta go to jail.

I just don't see how a couple zips of weed is worth all that? And I know he made the decision, he fucked up...but this is fucking so minor it shouldn't even be a fucking problem. I can see a misdemeanor, but if this happened in Boston, or anywhere in MA...he wouldn't even get shit. MAYBE probation, I just don't see how something can vary so much from state to state.

 

[Bulldog_10]

I just went and got a couple slices of roni and a soda...I don't see this news being good for my lifestyle.

 

[chewyxrage]

In my hometown a friend sold to an undercover several times equaling just over an ounce (they waited till it reached that high so they could get him for a felony)

he is on probation, drug test and whatnot for 3 years. fines and stuff but no jail time. He had gotten arrested previously at least 10 times (and I'm not exaggerating, this dude got an assault ticket when he was 12 for beating up neighborhood kids)

 

[Bulldog_10]

In my hometown a friend sold to an undercover several times equaling just over an ounce (they waited till it reached that high so they could get him for a felony)

he is on probation, drug test and whatnot for 3 years. fines and stuff but no jail time. He had gotten arrested previously at least 10 times (and I'm not exaggerating, this dude got an assault ticket when he was 12 for beating up neighborhood kids)

Annoying.

When this first happened, I was gonna tell him to get rick collins for a lawyer...but that would have been expensive I bet...if he could even try a case out here...I wish we had someone like him closer by.

 

[Gambino]

Where you live at Bull? I think it's quite retarded that 56 grams of weed is a felony. As far as I'm concerned anything under a lb. should be a civil infraction.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Where you live at Bull? I think it's quite retarded that 56 grams of weed is a felony. As far as I'm concerned anything under a lb. should be a civil infraction.

Same here bro...and I think it would be, had it been here (Boston). This all went down in NH...and that's the problem. They have a "drug task force," I guess since they spent so much money tailing him and shit, they want to get their money's worth.

What happened originally is that this kid that turned him in, told the cops that my bro had heroin, guns, coke, etc...of which he never dealt with, EVER. So I guess they put alot of money into the case, followed him around, took pictures, paid this kid to go into his house and shit like that. And it turns out they didn't find anything of what they were looking for...just some weed and money, but since they spent all their money/time on it, they gotta get something out of it.

 

[chrisoh]

This is so messed up. Although i done condone the use of any drugs (except juice of course), I do think it's fucked that rapists and murderers walk free while people like your bro who seems like a standup guy goes to county for a year for 2oz of weed. All my bests to your bro.

 

[Bulldog_10]

This is so messed up. Although i done condone the use of any drugs (except juice of course), I do think it's fucked that rapists and murderers walk free while people like your bro who seems like a standup guy goes to county for a year for 2oz of weed. All my bests to your bro.

Thanks bro...I really appreciate the kind words.

And I feel the same way...i am in no way condoning what he did. But it just seems a little skewed that someone like this could go to jail for something so minute.

And guys, please don't think I'm making him out to be an angel...he's no angel, but he's no one that deserves to be in a fucking prison...and especially for that stretch of time. He's a fucking great guy, no reason for them to fuck with him like that are. He's learned his lesson, and he'd be the last person you would find selling drugs again...so there really isn't a need for him to go to jail IMO.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Hey...at least they're trying to get sex offenders' pictures taken off the internet here in MA...wouldn't want to inconvenience them.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

fight it. new lawyer, start again

i know a guy who was caught with 2500 ecstasy pills....2500!!!!

he spent 14 days in state prison and was on a good behaviour bond for 5 years

this is australia though...although we have arguably retarded laws

 

[Bulldog_10]

fight it. new lawyer, start again

i know a guy who was caught with 2500 ecstasy pills....2500!!!!

he spent 14 days in state prison and was on a good behaviour bond for 5 years

this is australia though...although we have arguably retarded laws

It seems like the worse the offense (and the offender), the easier they take it on you. I swear to god, every time I hear of one of my friends (alot of them have at least some sort of record) doing something terrible (assault and battery, or "serious" drugs usually) they get off with a slap on the wrist.

I don't get it.

 

[pitbullstl]

fight it. new lawyer, start again

i know a guy who was caught with 2500 ecstasy pills....2500!!!!

he spent 14 days in state prison and was on a good behaviour bond for 5 years

this is australia though...although we have arguably retarded laws

My best friend got caught with 3100, and spent a year and a day in Federal Prison, this was 5 years ago, the guidelines are much stricter now......

 

[Code]

Whether or not the punishment fits the crime is irrelevant.

I'm not being a dick, just telling it like it is. Everyone has heard the story about some local kid who had an ounce on him, wasn't a dealer but sold some of it to a fed anyway. Got busted, went to prison for 10-15.

Yeah, it's fucked up. But if you have more than an 8th in your house, you are running a risk of getting busted as a dealer and going to gang-you-in-the-ass prison.

I realize this...but lots of people fuck up, multiple times...and get off scott free. Don't get me wrong, I know what he did was wrong...but should the punishment not fit the crime?

 

[Bulldog_10]

Whether or not the punishment fits the crime is irrelevant.

Funny, I always thought that was the point of the "justice" system...

 

[Code]

Part of the justic system includes not only punishment but it also serves to deter criminals. Which in this case, obviously didn't work.

Funny, I always thought that was the point of the "justice" system...

 

[gonelifting]

Not blaming you bro, but I hate hearing the term "Best in the business" EVERYBODY says that. How many damn "Best in the business" guys can there be? If you live in New York or Texas or Cali, The guy YOU have is the BEST. wtf???

That phrase is WAAAY overused. Again, not to piss you off bro, I feel for you and your family, but we get lied to all the time. That lawyer is probably having lunch RIGHT NOW with the Prosecuter. It`s just another case for him, he`s gotta pay his mortgage and boat payment. What the hell does he care. I`m not dogging all lawyers but I certainly stopped putting people on pedastals without them proving their worth to me first.

GET ANOTHER CONSULTATION. Just a consult and ask "What can be done?" Pay the guy a one time fee for peace of mind. I don`t know the laws but it does look like a lot of time for a first offense. Does this lawyer give a reason when he says "undefendable"?

Good luck bro . Does your brother have a family of his own?

 

[Bulldog_10]

Not blaming you bro, but I hate hearing the term "Best in the business" EVERYBODY says that. How many damn "Best in the business" guys can there be? If you live in New York or Texas or Cali, The guy YOU have is the BEST. wtf???

That phrase is WAAAY overused. Again, not to piss you off bro, I feel for you and your family, but we get lied to all the time. That lawyer is probably having lunch RIGHT NOW with the Prosecuter. It`s just another case for him, he`s gotta pay his mortgage and boat payment. What the hell does he care. I`m not dogging all lawyers but I certainly stopped putting people on pedastals without them proving their worth to me first.

GET ANOTHER CONSULTATION. Just a consult and ask "What can be done?" Pay the guy a one time fee for peace of mind. I don`t know the laws but it does look like a lot of time for a first offense. Does this lawyer give a reason when he says "undefendable"?

Good luck bro . Does your brother have a family of his own?

No fam of his own, luckily. And you're right about the consult, I might do it myself...there are a couple of good lawyers at the Law school here, and the school of management...so it might be worth asking someone...the guys here usually do it for free...so I'm gonna look into it.

Of course this lawyer didn't say he was the best, but from the info out there, it does look like he's the best in the area...not best in the biz obviously...but there can't be too many good lawyers in NH.

Anyways, thanks for the help bro...I'm gonna look into getting him a consult, I'll even pay for the damn thing, cuz he's having money trouble ever since this happened.

Thanks again bor

 

[jestros]

yeah, he sold an ounce to some punk he didnt know. Gets whats coming to him. I've been arrested a few times, but only when I've done something stupid.

You hit me with red for that?
Your a gawddamn jackass, for one thing you didnt say it was his friend, you said some punk.
For another thing, he was selling ounces of weed, no dime bags. Therefore he was being stupid. Is he aware that selling weed is illegal? I think its common knowledge and some states have manditory minimums of 10 years for selling weed, so he got off easy.
Quit your crying, he fucked up, now he's gotta deal with it.

 

[Bulldog_10]

You hit me with red for that?
Your a gawddamn jackass, for one thing you didnt say it was his friend, you said some punk.
For another thing, he was selling ounces of weed, no dime bags. Therefore he was being stupid. Is he aware that selling weed is illegal? I think its common knowledge and some states have manditory minimums of 10 years for selling weed, so he got off easy.
Quit your crying, he fucked up, now he's gotta deal with it.

I see more red coming in the future.

 

[jestros]

Red me all you want, I'm not gonna go around kissin ass for karma.
Your bro is a straight up dumb ass, he got busted, so maybe you should STFU.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Red me all you want, I'm not gonna go around kissin ass for karma.
Your bro is a straight up dumb ass, he got busted, so maybe you should STFU.

haha...easy there. Name calling is the last resort of a small man. And I will red you all I want...every time I recharge.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Red me all you want, I'm not gonna go around kissin ass for karma.
Your bro is a straight up dumb ass, he got busted, so maybe you should STFU.

Let me guess, you just recently graduated from charm school and are here to demonstrate your newly achieved skills? Welcome to the community, I see you'll fit in just wonderfully. Oh, and yes I did hit you with red. Look for a lot more of it in the future with your charm school understanding.

 

[jestros]

Let me guess, you just recently graduated from charm school and are here to demonstrate your newly achieved skills? Welcome to the community, I see you'll fit in just wonderfully. Oh, and yes I did hit you with red. Look for a lot more of it in the future with your charm school understanding.

WOOHOO!
I feel like I'm in high school again.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Let me guess, you just recently graduated from charm school and are here to demonstrate your newly achieved skills? Welcome to the community, I see you'll fit in just wonderfully. Oh, and yes I did hit you with red. Look for a lot more of it in the future with your charm school understanding.

You the man SSS! I'll hit ya with green when I recharge

Along with anyone else who gives him some red...LOL.

 

[Scotsman]

You the man SSS! I'll hit ya with green when I recharge

Along with anyone else who gives him some red...LOL.

No need to green me I took enough joy in handing that little immature prick some of the red stuff.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[strongsmartsexy]

WOOHOO!
I feel like I'm in high school again.

You behave like you're in high school again.

 

[Code]

Wow, this thread is classy.

 

[collegiateLifter]

On one hand your bro should have never started selling drugs--- not a good game. On the other hand it is very out of whack to get a felony for selling a few Os here and there, being treated like a significant threat to society.

Think of it this way, if he was a Senator or Congressman he could get away with going to some fancy drug rehab program and all the publicity required for re-election!

Close, but I don't know any Senators who would sell drugs. Maybe some do them.... though I doubt they would get re-elected.

Nate Newton (ex-dallas cowboy lineman) got caught with 250lbs of marijuana in his van. Did a short stint on probation and in rehab. Gets caught again with even more and gets sentenced to like 6mos time served. I don't remember the exact details of it except for the amount of dope.

Are you sure that was the final outcome of this? I remember hearing Newton moving outragous amounts of weed, then gettin busted again week or 2 later, but never heard the outcome. There was definately something fishy and weird goin on there.

 

[Scotsman]

On one hand your bro should have never started selling drugs--- not a good game. On the other hand it is very out of whack to get a felony for selling a few Os here and there, being treated like a significant threat to society.



Close, but I don't know any Senators who would sell drugs. Maybe some do them.... though I doubt they would get re-elected.



Are you sure that was the final outcome of this? I remember hearing Newton moving outragous amounts of weed, then gettin busted again week or 2 later, but never heard the outcome. There was definately something fishy and weird goin on there.

He pretty much got a slap on the wrist and had to go back to rehab from what I remember. I could be wrong but it shouldn't be too hard to find on the net.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Close, but I don't know any Senators who would sell drugs. Maybe some do them.... though I doubt they would get re-elected.

No, they just use their expense accounts to buy them and SHARE them with their friends and acquaintences.