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For those who asked...My training

Bulldog_10

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OK...last week I got a bunch of people asking me my thoughts on training and whatnot...so here it is:

Workouts:

I base my routine on the periodization principle. Basically varying intensity, volume, frequency and duration every 4-6 weeks. So I start the year in the hypertrophy phase, then move onto the basic strength phase, then strength and power, then peaking...then active rest for a week (or however I long I feel I need).

Here's how the phases work:

Hypertrophy:

3-6 sets of 8-12 reps, 4-5 times per week. 30-60s rest between sets. Low intensity and high volume obviously. The intensity cycle is 2-3:1 (will explain this later).

Basic Strength:

3-4 sets of 4-6 reps, 3-5 days per week. 1:00-1:30 rest. High intensity and moderate-high volume. Intensity cycle = ~3:1

Strength and Power:

3-5 sets of 2-3 reps, 3-4 days per week. 1:30-2:00 rest. High intensity, low volume. Intensity cycle = 2-3:1

Peaking:

1-3 sets of 1-3 reps, 3-4 days per week. 1:30-2:00 rest. Very high intensity, Very low volume. No intensity cycle because of the short duration of this phase.


I do different variations of the push/pull method. Right now I rotate upper body and lower body days, and alternate pushing and pulling exercises. Other times I combine upper and lower body into one workout (upper body push/lower body pull).

Right now it looks like this (All exercises 3 sets of 8-12):

Day one:


Squats
Glute-ham raises
Leg Extensions
Prone Hamstring curls
Seated calves

Day Two:

Pull-ups
Weighted push-ups
Cable rows
Overhead DB press

Day Three:
Deads
Hack squats
Lunges
Light leg ext.
standing calves

Day Four:
Dips
Lying pull ups
Bench
Side/lateral raises + reverse flyes


So that's one week, 2 days on, 2 days off, 2 days on, one day off.

I do this because I hit each major muscle group twice per week. I used mostly closed chain exercises which I'm big on...so it looks weird in the gym (ie weighted push-ups and lying pull-ups). During the strength and strength and power phases I usually throw in olympic lifts and do them at the beginning of the workout. Sometimes I throw in some isolation type stuff (bi and tri work) at the end of the workout if I feel like it, but usually I don't.

The intensity cycle is the ratio of heavy weeks to light weeks. So if it's 3:1, I'll do three heavy weeks (100%) and then one light week (85%). Sometimes instead of doing it by week, I'll do it by workout. I'll make days one and two heavy days, and days 3 and 4 light days. Or day 1 and 2 heavy, day 3 and 4 moderate, and the next day 1 and 2 light...then repeat.

Cycling:

The way I fit cycles in (if I did, which I'm not planning on any time soon) is to do them during the hypertrophy phase. Too many people try to lift too heavy while they're on because the juice makes them feel strong...this is a quick way to ruin your cycle due to injury. Aside from that, you're not really taking advantage of the benefits of juice. Steroids decrease time needed for recovery, so obviously you want to be doing higher reps and frequency while on. This also decreases risk of injury because you're not straining your connective tissue as much as you would if you were lifting too heavy.

However, I only recommend using cycles to break through plateaus in training. Too many people start to rely on the juice for training (a la Juice's post earlier this week). I just use it when I feel my workouts are getting dull. This is why I don't see the need for "bridges," and I don't get why people are so eager to jump right back on right after they finish up a cycle. Time on = time off is a crock of shit as far as I'm concerned. Time off should depend on your training...if you're not seeing gains, evaluate your diet, training, and rest (among other things)...and then if you change those things and still don't see gains...change them and try again. THEN if you still feel that you're in a rut...hit up a cycle. Don't mean to preach...just my thoughts on the subject.

But like I said...when you DO decide to hop on a cycle...try to time it so it coincides with the hypertrophy phase to maximize the benefits.





So those are my basic thoughts on training and cycling...Of course everything is free to change...I vary up everything on a daily basis, I don't stick to this schedule rigidly (as far as exercises go...I keep the volume, intensity, etc. the same throughout the phase).

If anyone has any comments/suggestions/questions...post up. (or you can email me).

Mods...I know this is more of a training thread...but I think most of the guys who asked about it are anabolic orbs...so could you just leave it here for a little bit, then move it if you want. Thanks :)
 
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Great post. I always like to see what the big guys do.

I have 2 questions, What does this mean?..."The intensity cycle is 2-3:1 (will explain this later)."

Also, do you got to failure on any of the sets and are the sets you`ve mentioned AFTER warmups?
 
gonelifting said:
Great post. I always like to see what the big guys do.

I have 2 questions, What does this mean?..."The intensity cycle is 2-3:1 (will explain this later)."

Also, do you got to failure on any of the sets and are the sets you`ve mentioned AFTER warmups?


I explained the intensity cycle in there somewhere. It's just how I cycle the intensity week by week. If the intensity cycle is 3:1, I'll do 3 heavy weeks followed by 1 lighter week.

All those sets are to failure, that's how I judge the rep range. If I can get 13, it's time to move up the weight. If I can't get #7, it's time to lower it.

And I just do one warm up set of each exercise, using about half the work-set weight...then I'll do the three sets (although sometimes I do a heavier "warm-up set" and drop a set off the end).



And thanks to everyone else for your comments... :)
 
ulter said:
Ok, just wondering.

I explained it in another thread...but in case you're interested:

The 2 major calf muscles are the soleus and gastrocnemius. The gastroc crosses the ankle and the knee, while the soleus just crosses the ankle. This means that when the knee is bent, the gastroc has too much slack to produce torque around the ankle...so soleus is isolated during this movement. But when the knee is straight, the gastroc is pulled taught, and it can produce torque about the ankle. So standing = better for gastroc, seated = better for soleus. Similar to regular curls vs hammers vs reverse curls emphasizing the biceps, brachialis, and brachioradialis, respectively.
 
never got any benifits from any calf raise excpet the seated version focusing on felxion

stretchign all the way down is utter bull crap (personal opinion)

simple workout perfome 2 times a week

seated calf raise only 6 sets start off super light progress every set last 2 stes utter failure

that simple

and no my calfs are noo good cus I am Greek (ULTER) :)

I tried and this worked for me
 
I'm totally changing my entire approach to periodization, more so in the fall, but will begin experimenting soon. Your program looks solid and well though out. I'm fascinated by the whole approach as I read more about it lately. Karma Dog. High-class thread.
 
Bulldog_10 said:
I explained it in another thread...but in case you're interested:

The 2 major calf muscles are the soleus and gastrocnemius. The gastroc crosses the ankle and the knee, while the soleus just crosses the ankle. This means that when the knee is bent, the gastroc has too much slack to produce torque around the ankle...so soleus is isolated during this movement. But when the knee is straight, the gastroc is pulled taught, and it can produce torque about the ankle. So standing = better for gastroc, seated = better for soleus. Similar to regular curls vs hammers vs reverse curls emphasizing the biceps, brachialis, and brachioradialis, respectively.
I do seated mainly usually do
4 sets of 25-setaed
4 sets of 15- standing
4 sets of bodyweight burnouts- 25
 
I've heard some negative comments on Western Periodization, namely that while doing the different phases, you become weak in the others. For example, while doing the 3-5 rep phase, the hypertrophy you experienced during the 8-10 rep phase will dissapate, and while doing the hypertrophy phase, the strength you gained during the 3-5 rep phase will dissipate. I really like your routine and your opinions on gear, and I want to train with periodization but I am a little worried. Did you notice any of the mentioned effects on your body bulldog, or are you making the best gains of your life? Great post by the way. I've been waiting to see someone use a routine like this one and hear their results on it.
 
Gobus said:
I've heard some negative comments on Western Periodization, namely that while doing the different phases, you become weak in the others. For example, while doing the 3-5 rep phase, the hypertrophy you experienced during the 8-10 rep phase will dissapate, and while doing the hypertrophy phase, the strength you gained during the 3-5 rep phase will dissipate. I really like your routine and your opinions on gear, and I want to train with periodization but I am a little worried. Did you notice any of the mentioned effects on your body bulldog, or are you making the best gains of your life? Great post by the way. I've been waiting to see someone use a routine like this one and hear their results on it.


Well, first I'll answer the easy question. After the hypertrophy phase, you're increasing your intensity. As long as you keep the same intensity (or raise it) you will not lose any size gains you've made. There have been many many many studies where volume, duration and frequency have all been dropped after a training period, and hypertrophy remained as long as intensity was kept the same. Intensity is the key to keeping any gains. If you're still stimulating all the muscle fibers (which you are at high intensities), you will not lose any size.

Losing strength during the hypertrophy phase happens, but only because you're lowering your weight on purpose. The thing about this is that it's a step-wise process...so after you go through all phases once, next time you'll start at a higher weight level and increase the intensity as you go through the whole program.

You can't really lose TOO much strength in just 4-6 weeks, especially while you're still hitting the gym hard, just in a different way. And I think the MINOR losses that you may come across during the phases are made up for by the fact that you avoid overtraining. I hear too many stories about people lifting heavy for a while, then they complain about shoulder (or other joint) problems. Or they stay in the 8-12 rep range and complain that their strength isn't increasing enough.

People think they can just stay in the 8-12 rep range and keep adding 5 pounds to each lift every week...your body doesn't work like that. If you want to add weight, you should drop volume, and if you do it in an incremental fashion like I have, you can add lots of weight. Then when you want to go back to the 8-12 rep range, start with much larger weights than what you were using the last time you were in that phase.


So to answer your question, yes you can't have it all at once...at some points in your training you'll be stronger than at other times...and at some times you'll be growing more...but in the end...you're gonna make progress in all facets of training.

You can use this to your advantage, if you're an athlete, time your program so you're just hitting the peaking phase as you get into your competitive season. You'll be at your strongest, and your CNS will be used to moving heavy weights at a fast pace.

If you're just working out to look good at the beach, time it so that you're just ending your hypertrophy phase coming into the summer. It allows for the best changes in body composition...so you'll shed the fat and look good for the hoes (sorry ladies;)).

Sorry...that was long.
 
Ok, I understand now. Thanks for your help bro. I've been wanting to try some periodization training for some time now, but I've been getting confused with a lot of opinions. I'm gonna have a go at it now, and see how it effects me. Thanks again for the advice and explanations. And in my opinion, the longer the post, the better. I got a lot of info from that :cool:

Edit: by the way, karma for you
 
real good post!!!thanks
 
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