First Cycle__Need Advice

[drrman]

I never knew that should use at least as much or a bit more test than deca. So I go with sust 500mg/week along with 400 deca per week.

You mean 1mg/day arimidex (or aromasin) throughout all the 8 week cycle, right?



Do you mean using Aromasin through all the cycle and also through PCT.

500mg sust and 400mg deca was my first cycle exactly.....well i did add dball first four weeks......and i wouldn't go back and change anything with it........i recommend that to most anyone who i think is ready for it

 

[jagerbombme]

use AIFM bro, if you read here, it's become the most popular and imo the best. although i've only used it, alot of people on here have used adex and aromasin and say aifm is the shit. go with that.

my brother ran deca only cycle first cycle, no pct, no anti e or anti arom and got huge with no deca dick. but others have got it first time. second cycle he did he got horrific backne that left him with severe scarring, it's going away, but still.

which that info and the info i found here led me to the cycle i am on

test e 250mg ew 1-10
var 60mg ed week 1-5
aifm for gyno, bloat
hcg 5000iu over 2.5 weeks weeks 6,7,8


pct
hcg 5000iu over 2.5 weeks weeks 12,13,14
tribulus pills from nutrition store
aifm to control hcg estro sides


straight forward simple cycle, good luck with what you do

i like my test boners, all 20 of them a day

 

[Ulter]

The first advice you got was bad. As was pointed out, tapering is wrong and a very old school method of cycle. It has not been in use in many years. Not since Aromatase Inhibitors and Clomid hit the scene. (for those of you who are newbies or less than 10 years cycling, tapering was used instead of pct)

The other bad advice I see here is telling you to use Deca. You should use test based only AS your first time out. Test/eq is good for instance. Test and Deca are very different and so together they are great. But not the first time. If you get gyno symptoms you won't know which one it's from. So you have to go back and try each individually to find out. Using test only and no gyno would mean you're all clear to use test again. Then add Deca next time and see what happens.

You do need an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) and I suggest as others here did, AIFM. Use it throughout the cycle and PCT.

 

[ggozen]

The first advice you got was bad. As was pointed out, tapering is wrong and a very old school method of cycle. It has not been in use in many years. Not since Aromatase Inhibitors and Clomid hit the scene. (for those of you who are newbies or less than 10 years cycling, tapering was used instead of pct)

The other bad advice I see here is telling you to use Deca. You should use test based only AS your first time out. Test/eq is good for instance. Test and Deca are very different and so together they are great. But not the first time. If you get gyno symptoms you won't know which one it's from. So you have to go back and try each individually to find out. Using test only and no gyno would mean you're all clear to use test again. Then add Deca next time and see what happens.

You do need an Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) and I suggest as others here did, AIFM. Use it throughout the cycle and PCT.

I got your concern. What about the doses?500 mg/week sust or eq.
Also one more question. There is 2 week interval between the cycle and the PCT. Shall I use Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) in that period too?

 

[drrman]

I got your concern. What about the doses?500 mg/week sust or eq.
Also one more question. There is 2 week interval between the cycle and the PCT. Shall I use Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) in that period too?

yes, you will need to use an AI all the way through your PCT

 

[Ulter]

I got your concern. What about the doses?500 mg/week sust or eq.
Also one more question. There is 2 week interval between the cycle and the PCT. Shall I use Aromatase Inhibitor (AI) in that period too?

500mg of test and 500mg of eq
Like he said, use your AI throughout the entire cycle and PCT.

 

[jagerbombme]

is it two weeks before start pct with sust?????? or should it be started a little earlier?

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