First Cycle__Need Advice

[instant.muscle]

dude for ur first cycle take one compound 2 c if u like it or how u react, if u take sust primo dbol ur gonna have no idea which worked well for u and if u experience sides u wont know which gave it 2 u, just my opinion

 

[Wulfgar]

I said it once and Ill say it again. Deca only 200 mg a week...for 8 weeks..no PCT...just great deiting is all a AAs novice really needs to yield great results.
It is all about growth thresholds really, if right now your body is capable of absoribing and utizlizing a shot glass worth of AAS, why dump a gallons worth in it? obviously the shot glass will fill up but the rest is overkill and just manifests itself in terms of sides.

remember, muscle fiber built using AAS over time "gains" androgen receptor site affinity meaning that a muscle exposed to AS for longer periods can adapt and utilize more AAS than can a novice.
clincally Ive seen guys get EXACTLY the same if not better results with less or no sides using a deca only cycle thier first time out compared to using test and an oral. Problem is alot of nvices subscribe to the more is better philosophy and get so over eager to dump truckloads of chemicals in thier systems they end up blowing through several wonderful growth producing thresholds of Low dose AAS use.

good luck in whatever endeavor you undertake my friend... and welcome!!

 

[bilter]

Wulfgar, no PCT???? even that low dose of deca for 8 weeks will shut him down.......interesting recomendation. I do know you know what you are talking about so why no PCT? I would certainly keep the proviron on hand if he chose this route just in case the dreaded deca dick rears its ugly head..

I take nolva throughout cycles not soley for combating gyno but also because it has been shown to have a fovroable effect on lipid profiles. I realize I may seem somewhat obsessed with this subject but I also believe the affects AAS has on blood lipids is ignore far too often.

 

[littleguy]

Totally agree with Wulfgar, low doses to start in this game and jump them up in the future.
Way better in the long run for health and affinity.
200 mg deca per week will work on a newbie with favorable results.

 

[thelion2005]

Sent you a PM.
Keep it simple. One or two max.
Add an anti-e like amiridex.
PCT for 4 weeks.

 

[ggozen]

So much information and experience in the site. So what about the following as a first cycle;

week 1-8 deca 400mg/week,
week 1-8 sust 250mg/week,
week 10 nolva 40mg/day
week 11-13 nolva 20mg/day

I have one more question. What do you suggest? Using AI-aromatase inhibitor( Aromasin, arimidex) or nolva (20mg/day) during the cycle ? Or neither?

 

[blut wump]

Some suggest Nolva helps with lipid profiles, others suggest that it has inherent dangers of its own. Look at it as a gyno-prevention ancillary. If you don't have signs of gyno or impending gyno then don't use it on-cycle.

AIFM from the AF-store is becoming very popular here and is a good cost-effective solution. Arimidex is popular but does little for me and, it seems, for many others. Aromasin is also a good solution. AIFM and aromasin can also be used right through PCT.

 

[drrman]

So much information and experience in the site. So what about the following as a first cycle;

week 1-8 deca 400mg/week,
week 1-8 sust 250mg/week,
week 10 nolva 40mg/day
week 11-13 nolva 20mg/day

I have one more question. What do you suggest? Using AI-aromatase inhibitor( Aromasin, arimidex) or nolva (20mg/day) during the cycle ? Or neither?

yeh, i would use some anti estrogen..........and i can tell you this bro, a good rule of thumb is to use at least as much or a bit more test than deca.......i would seriously think about upping that test dosage to 500mg/wek for sure, if not drop the deca to 200, but i would up the test if it were me

and get some arimidex, 1mg/day to start with, or you may want to try the AIFM from teh AF store, hear good things about it

 

[ggozen]

yeh, i would use some anti estrogen..........and i can tell you this bro, a good rule of thumb is to use at least as much or a bit more test than deca.......i would seriously think about upping that test dosage to 500mg/wek for sure, if not drop the deca to 200, but i would up the test if it were me

and get some arimidex, 1mg/day to start with, or you may want to try the AIFM from teh AF store, hear good things about it

I never knew that should use at least as much or a bit more test than deca. So I go with sust 500mg/week along with 400 deca per week.

You mean 1mg/day arimidex (or aromasin) throughout all the 8 week cycle, right?

Some suggest Nolva helps with lipid profiles, others suggest that it has inherent dangers of its own. Look at it as a gyno-prevention ancillary. If you don't have signs of gyno or impending gyno then don't use it on-cycle.

AIFM from the AF-store is becoming very popular here and is a good cost-effective solution. Arimidex is popular but does little for me and, it seems, for many others. Aromasin is also a good solution. AIFM and aromasin can also be used right through PCT.

Do you mean using Aromasin through all the cycle and also through PCT.

 

[blut wump]

Aromasin and AIFM are each suitable for on-cycle and post-cycle. Nolva clashes with arimidex which effectively downregulates its effectiveness. I'm sure others can tell you more of the unsuitability of 'dex for PCT.