big4life said:
Knowing that "something" is going to happen and knowing the specifics are two seperate things.
People need to realize that the government receives threats and then they have to evaluate these threats. Are they crediable? Are they specific? They have to make the call whether there is a real threat or not.
Yes, but if the terrorist threat received by Pentagon officials was neither crediable or specific why would they cancel all their travel plans for sept 11th??
If a threat is crediable, but lacks specifics, the Pentagon probably would have issued an interagency wide alert, because they LACKED specifics as to who, where, when, and how the expected threat was to be carried out. What else could Pentagon officials do if they LACKED THE SPECIFICS of a possible future terrorist attack???
If the threat was specific but not crediable, Pentagon officials would not have cancelled their travel plans for sept 11th. You said yourself the US government recieves numerous terrorist threats daily. Do you think Pentagon officials cancel their travel plans upon recieving every crank threat??
But we can deduce from the Pentagons cancellation of their sept 11th travel plans, the warning was *crediable* (or else travel plans would not have been cancelled), and *specific* --- ALL AIR TRAVEL PLANS were cancelled ON sept 11th. Indicating a DATE AND POSSIBLE TRANSPORTATION MEDIUM associated with the anticipated terrorist attack.
And this is within the context of numerous other terrorist warnings forwarded to the FBI and CIA MONTHS prior to sept 11th.
Your response suggests all warnings received by the FBI and CIA prior to sept 11th somehow lacked complete crediability, even though many predicted with striking accuracy the actual events which took place on sept 11th.
Read that sentance again if you dont understand how completely irrational that asseration sounds.
If you want to believe your government received no CREDIABLE information indicating a massive terrorist attack was to be launched on US soil in Sept 2001, I challenge you to explain the following articles:
1) "Through much of the summer, Tenet [Director of CIA] had grown increasingly troubled by the prospect of a major terrorist attack against the United States... Everywhere he went, the message was the same: Something big is coming... The previous month [Aug 2001], the FBI has asked the CIA and the National Security Agency to run phone traces on Moussaoui [the missing 20th hijacker on Sept 11], already the subject of a five-inch-thick file in the bureau..."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...ode=&contentId=A42754-2002Jan26¬Found=true
2) “intelligence had been streaming in concerning a likely Al Qaeda attack. ‘It all came together in the third week in June [2001],’ Clarke said. ‘The C.I.A.'s view was that a major terrorist attack was coming in the next several weeks.’ On July 5th, Clarke summoned all the domestic security agencies—the Federal Aviation Administration, the Coast Guard, Customs, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, and the F.B.I.—and told them to increase their security in light of an impending attack.”
The New Yorker, Issue of January 14, 2002:
http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?020114fa_FACT1
Article 2 would satisfy many individuals definition of a crediable and specific threat. Obviously if the CIA headed an interdepartmental joint task force aimed at foiling an 'impending' Al Queda terrorist attack, the threat would satisfy the condition of CREDIABILITY.
Article 2 satifies two conditions of 4 which determine the specificity of any threat:
1) who - Al Queda operatives
2) when - "impending attacks", "next several weeks"
3) where - preceeding article gives no indication
4) how - preceeding article gives no indication
Considering other warnings by the Isreali, Russian, and German intelligence agencies which blantedly spelled out AL Queda operatives were planning to highjack civilian aircraft in sept 2001 and ram them into prominent US landmarks --- the FBI and CIA COMPLETELY DISCREDITED THOSE WARNINGS?!?! EVEN AFTER THE CIA AND FBI HAD MET IN JULY AND WERE LIKELY SHARING INTELLIGENCE TO FOIL THE 'IMPENDING' AL QUEDA TERRORIST PLOT??!
Unbeleivable.
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