Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below i have read pages and pages on this forum but still dont know what to do. i am over weight, 6 feet and 235lbs. i read on ketosis and people say good, people say bad. then i read the iso-whatever, people say good people say bad. how about slim fast ?, most agree its crap. what should i do???? should i just plainly eat less and excersise more or what? please help. i am willing to stick to a program and go all the way. what is T3, hydroxicut, dnp, and other things. should i take any of these or anything else? please help
fat person wanting to loose weight and confused
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8 months back I was overweight. I found these forums and found out the main things I needed to do to loose fat...
1) Eat 6-7 small meals a day
2) Dont eat carbs for last 2 meals
3) Use a good protein powder... take in 50%p 30%c 20%f
4) Eat good fats like flax oil, peanut oil etc
5) go to the gym * (see below)
6) dont expect miracles over night!
7) drinks loads of water
* I started doing only heavy weights at the gym... hardly any cardio didnt really notice much fat loss in 1st first 2 months but developed some muscle (not much). Hit some Xenadrine after about 3 months of working out and have recently tried PPA and also CLEN. In 8 months I dropped from 15 stone (about 205lbs) to 12 stone 7 lbs (about 180lbs) .
Not a massive change but ive put on a few pounds of muscle too in this time.
STUBS
1) Eat 6-7 small meals a day
2) Dont eat carbs for last 2 meals
3) Use a good protein powder... take in 50%p 30%c 20%f
4) Eat good fats like flax oil, peanut oil etc
5) go to the gym * (see below)
6) dont expect miracles over night!
7) drinks loads of water
* I started doing only heavy weights at the gym... hardly any cardio didnt really notice much fat loss in 1st first 2 months but developed some muscle (not much). Hit some Xenadrine after about 3 months of working out and have recently tried PPA and also CLEN. In 8 months I dropped from 15 stone (about 205lbs) to 12 stone 7 lbs (about 180lbs) .
Not a massive change but ive put on a few pounds of muscle too in this time.
STUBS
Tha One CrumCake
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Apperantly you havn't read shit.
Don't fool yourself into thinking youve done the necessary research... s
Shit man, you don't even know how the fuck to lose FAT YET...and you're planning to do a dnp cycle? LOL
search tha web. not just this fucking site.
www.google.com is a great search engine.
Don't fool yourself into thinking youve done the necessary research... s
Shit man, you don't even know how the fuck to lose FAT YET...and you're planning to do a dnp cycle? LOL
search tha web. not just this fucking site.
www.google.com is a great search engine.
ColumboWeiser
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Hey bro take it easy on him! I agree he must do a lot more research first, and should stay away from drugs for now. We all used to be newbies and asked many stupied questions or thinking about doing uneducated things....Give the bro a break...
Tha One CrumCake
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www.Ask4mass.com check out their "fat loss section" .. it's very good for a newbie.
www.T-mag.com is fantastic as well.
Those are mainly sites for reading articles.....
...If you need a specific question, just post it here, and we'll be glad to answer you, specially since you have cute titties.
good luck brother
www.T-mag.com is fantastic as well.
Those are mainly sites for reading articles.....
...If you need a specific question, just post it here, and we'll be glad to answer you, specially since you have cute titties.
good luck brotherI think i can clarify some things for you.
June 4th of this year, i weighed 283lbs. As of this morning, i weigh 222lbs. There seems to be a lot of bad mouthing around here about the Atkins diet, mainly, it seems, by people who:
1) Haven't researched it
2) Have never tried it
3) Are just repeating the same BS they've heard from other people
I've managed to lower my blood pressure and cholesterol, and stabilize my blood sugar, and i'm still on Induction http://www.atkinsdiet.com/started_story.asp?startedID=11
On Ketosis. The problem is that people are talking about 2 seperate processes when refering to Ketosis!!
Ketosis is not is not is not harmful. Ketosis is simply a state that your body is in when it is releasing Ketones. Your body uses 2 fuel-delivery substances, Ketones are one, glucose is the other. Whenever your body sees fit to utilize your alternative metabolic fuel (your stored fat) the agents used are ketones.
NOW, Ketoacidosis is different!. This is seen in type 1 diabetics who can't produce insulin. Since being fat is the result of an over production of insulin, how can you be in Ketoacidosis? Oh yeah, you CAN'T
You need to go out and buy Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution (get the revised and updated edition and read it front to cover, and then all over again. Its about 7 bucks in paper back, so you have nothing to loose, except weight.
Thinking that you have to eat low fat to loose weight is complete BS. There is no reason to live your life hungry for years to loose weight, only to gain it back after you go "off" of a low fat diet (only 3-5% of people who loose weight on a low fat diet don't gain it back)
To the people who say that i'm going to have a heart attack and am unhealthy by eating the Atkins way, i simply show them the notches on my belt, and my good cholesterol readings. The simple fact of the matter is that it takes fat to burn fat. It takes a large fat intake (ONLY if carb intake is LOW) in order to trigger your body to release the proper chemicals to break down stored fat.
I probably consume 300+ grams of fat a day. My body metabolizes all of it, plus about 1-2 lbs a week of stored fat. If your body is not storing fat, then it is not storing cholesterol, it is not harding your artieries, and you are not going to kill yourself.
This country did not start to become overweight until it started eating more refined sugar, and less natural fat products like real butter (not margirine), meats, cheeses, salad, green leafy vegtables, etc. We did not see heart disease, cancers, or diabeties until we started eating and drinking the CRAP that we do now. We are a health-aware society that has ADFA plastering us with the pyramid guide saying that we need 8-12 servings of grains, and what, 2-4 servings of fruit (talk about pure sugar there) a day, and look at that, we're getting more and more overweight.
Most average, everyday people should probably be consuming 70-120 grams of carbs a day, tops (hell, i'll never get that high). Go drink a gatorade and eat a potatoe, theres your carbs for the day.
Buy the book, read the book, and for once in your life enjoy yourself. I eat bacon and eggs for breakfast everyday, steak, chicken, fish (tuna rocks), salad, okra, broccoli, butter, mayo, etc, etc, everyday of my life. For 4 months i've enjoyed a stable blood sugar level, more energy than i've had since i was probably 12 (21 now), and when i'm hungry, guess what, I EAT. And why? because is takes fat (natural fats, not processed) to burn fat.
June 4th of this year, i weighed 283lbs. As of this morning, i weigh 222lbs. There seems to be a lot of bad mouthing around here about the Atkins diet, mainly, it seems, by people who:
1) Haven't researched it
2) Have never tried it
3) Are just repeating the same BS they've heard from other people
I've managed to lower my blood pressure and cholesterol, and stabilize my blood sugar, and i'm still on Induction http://www.atkinsdiet.com/started_story.asp?startedID=11
On Ketosis. The problem is that people are talking about 2 seperate processes when refering to Ketosis!!
Ketosis is not is not is not harmful. Ketosis is simply a state that your body is in when it is releasing Ketones. Your body uses 2 fuel-delivery substances, Ketones are one, glucose is the other. Whenever your body sees fit to utilize your alternative metabolic fuel (your stored fat) the agents used are ketones.
NOW, Ketoacidosis is different!. This is seen in type 1 diabetics who can't produce insulin. Since being fat is the result of an over production of insulin, how can you be in Ketoacidosis? Oh yeah, you CAN'T
You need to go out and buy Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution (get the revised and updated edition and read it front to cover, and then all over again. Its about 7 bucks in paper back, so you have nothing to loose, except weight.
Thinking that you have to eat low fat to loose weight is complete BS. There is no reason to live your life hungry for years to loose weight, only to gain it back after you go "off" of a low fat diet (only 3-5% of people who loose weight on a low fat diet don't gain it back)
To the people who say that i'm going to have a heart attack and am unhealthy by eating the Atkins way, i simply show them the notches on my belt, and my good cholesterol readings. The simple fact of the matter is that it takes fat to burn fat. It takes a large fat intake (ONLY if carb intake is LOW) in order to trigger your body to release the proper chemicals to break down stored fat.
I probably consume 300+ grams of fat a day. My body metabolizes all of it, plus about 1-2 lbs a week of stored fat. If your body is not storing fat, then it is not storing cholesterol, it is not harding your artieries, and you are not going to kill yourself.
This country did not start to become overweight until it started eating more refined sugar, and less natural fat products like real butter (not margirine), meats, cheeses, salad, green leafy vegtables, etc. We did not see heart disease, cancers, or diabeties until we started eating and drinking the CRAP that we do now. We are a health-aware society that has ADFA plastering us with the pyramid guide saying that we need 8-12 servings of grains, and what, 2-4 servings of fruit (talk about pure sugar there) a day, and look at that, we're getting more and more overweight.
Most average, everyday people should probably be consuming 70-120 grams of carbs a day, tops (hell, i'll never get that high). Go drink a gatorade and eat a potatoe, theres your carbs for the day.
Buy the book, read the book, and for once in your life enjoy yourself. I eat bacon and eggs for breakfast everyday, steak, chicken, fish (tuna rocks), salad, okra, broccoli, butter, mayo, etc, etc, everyday of my life. For 4 months i've enjoyed a stable blood sugar level, more energy than i've had since i was probably 12 (21 now), and when i'm hungry, guess what, I EAT. And why? because is takes fat (natural fats, not processed) to burn fat.
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Tha One CrumCake
New member
KWKsilver good posts...
but tha aktins diet for the rest of your life?? hmmm
You should slowly get off of it once you lose all of your bodyfat.
Lift weights.
Once your satisfied, u should probably turn to a diet consisting of
45% lean protein, 25% carbs (low glycemic, things like oatmeal), and 30% fat (healthy fats,,egg,flax,etc.)
That would be the Ultimate "HEATLHY diet".
Peace.
but tha aktins diet for the rest of your life?? hmmm
You should slowly get off of it once you lose all of your bodyfat.
Lift weights.
Once your satisfied, u should probably turn to a diet consisting of
45% lean protein, 25% carbs (low glycemic, things like oatmeal), and 30% fat (healthy fats,,egg,flax,etc.)
That would be the Ultimate "HEATLHY diet".
Peace.
HumanShell
New member
KWKSLVR said:
Apparently it makes you repeat yourself like an idiot.
Well, what i mean is that your always on a variation of it.
Most people go off of a low fat diet. With Atkins, you slowly add carbs on until you find your sweet spot (don't gain, don't loose) usually around 40-100 grams a day. Since being overweight is a metabolic problem, i'll never get to a point in my life where 200 <insert number here> grams/carbs per day won't trigger an insuline response.
I just think that its a shame that so many people honestly believe that they have to eat low fat/high carbs and be miserable in order to loose weight. Atkin's is the first diet i've tried. Why? Simply because i new that i couldn't live with most "orthodox" diets, and it would be a waste of my time, and happiness.
HumanShell - Thank you for your contribution
Most people go off of a low fat diet. With Atkins, you slowly add carbs on until you find your sweet spot (don't gain, don't loose) usually around 40-100 grams a day. Since being overweight is a metabolic problem, i'll never get to a point in my life where 200 <insert number here> grams/carbs per day won't trigger an insuline response.
I just think that its a shame that so many people honestly believe that they have to eat low fat/high carbs and be miserable in order to loose weight. Atkin's is the first diet i've tried. Why? Simply because i new that i couldn't live with most "orthodox" diets, and it would be a waste of my time, and happiness.
HumanShell - Thank you for your contribution
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