fast irregular heartbeat with test prop?

[jagerbombme]

i can run test enanthate or cypionate just fine and have no problems.
if i run test prop alone it has to be at very low dose, less than 80mg eod to avoid 10 minutes of irregular paced heartbeat and very fast paced heartbeat. less than 50mg eod i have no sides, 50mg eod or above it completely turns my stomach into a nightmare. that aside, i had quit prop and went to enanthate, had no problems, ramped up to 600ish per week and felt great, a little bloated but felt great. got some omnadren in and wanted to shed the bloat. im also running NPP but that doesn't seem to bother me one bit, not one fucking side except extra perverted mindset( i want to see my wife fucking people?) hehe. but i can shoot the npp at 100mg eod and i feel nothing, no sides, just pumps and vascularity increase. enanthate, i feel stronger pumps and good horny.

i shoot prop and my heart goes fucking bonkers. i've tried and tried. i thought it was my lab i was using but i just got some omnadren amps in and shot 1 amp w/ 1 cc of npp and fucking heart went nuts 6 hours later, just like prop.

i do the bear down technique and put cold water on my face and try to stay calm and take deep breaths, it eventually passes. usually with some big ass burps. so the next two shots i just did NPP by itself, assuming enough time had passed and the test levels had dropped i hit the omna again and same mother fucking thing. wicked irregular heartbeat.

sides with prop also for me include hot flashes all day long. what do you guys think. i mean this shit is really fucking scaring me. i don't want to fucking die over this shit but i mean the doses im running it shouldn't.

am i allergic to prop? especially clean HG prop.

am i to assume maybe i cannot tolerate too much androgens?

is this just what's called the androgen rush? it feels like a fucking heart attack to me when my hearts not beating in any rhythymatic order. although i have no pain, numbnesss, tingling, or shortness of breath. just scares the living fuck outta you. sometimes it passes quick, sometimes it goes on for ten minutes.

i was shooting 125mg of enanthate eod alongside 100mg npp eod. i had no issues. it seems it's always with prop. also then, now that i've shot two amps of the omna, man, i feel like im on fucking crystal meth, i mean i'm chewing down xanax just to keep sanity and not keep thinking about heart attacks and death.

the npp is 3 weeks in and feel good pumps, helping me cut and getting some strength from it, getting vascular,


i think im gonna continue with the npp and once my cock stops functioning start throwing in minimal test enanthate and see what happens. i have 60 dbols for a dbol pct whenever im done. anyone have any input on this. thanks.

ps, this happened last year to me on prop, i had all kinds of heart tests done and everything came back excellent. so whats the damn dillio? hehe

 

[jagerbombme]

Bump

 

[OMEGA]

Acute Dosage of Androgens that have short half lives can cause excitation.

Androgens and esp DHT have a direct or direct enough effect to cause this.

feel it out as see over the next doses

 

[jagerbombme]

Acute Dosage of Androgens that have short half lives can cause excitation.

Androgens and esp DHT have a direct or direct enough effect to cause this.

feel it out as see over the next doses

interesting, i know my dht was elevated recently due to proviron intake. when you say excitation, does this just mean bursts of rapid heart beats? or is this dangerous to health and or heart which would contradict a few of the good things they say about trt. thanks

 

[OMEGA]

it means has effect on the CNS which could cause the symptoms you spoke of.

If its Chronic then see a doc bro it may be something else.

 

[jagerbombme]

it means has effect on the CNS which could cause the symptoms you spoke of.

If its Chronic then see a doc bro it may be something else.

ahh that's freaky shit. this happened to me last december on test prop. i quit the cycle, went to doc, had a 24hr holter monitor, stress test, blood work and a electrocardiogram. all was normal. i know it's the shit doing it. just wondering if im taking serious risks here. as in chancing these short periods of irregular hb's and rapid hb;s turning into a full blown cardiac incident

 

[RottenWillow]

ahh that's freaky shit. this happened to me last december on test prop. i quit the cycle, went to doc, had a 24hr holter monitor, stress test, blood work and a electrocardiogram. all was normal. i know it's the shit doing it. just wondering if im taking serious risks here. as in chancing these short periods of irregular hb's and rapid hb;s turning into a full blown cardiac incident

By "stress test" I assume it was a stress echocardiogram? If the cardiologist that reviewed your video saw no irregularities at all your heart, and your EKG was normal I dont think you're at risk of an MI from the sxs you mention. Scary stuff for sure, but absent other heart problems I've been told (by my own cardiologist) they're arent dangerous.

Having said all that, why not just stop the stuff that causing the frightening sxs? Plenty of other stuff to use that dont cause those issues, right?

 

[bigmodean]

I had some irregular "hard thumps" on my last test e. cycle,BP was fine,EKG golden,saw my cardiologist,he said finish cycle,dont sweat it,"better to do that than smoke"he said,so clearing that up my me stress less,even though I still felt it.Finished my cycle fine,though it did go away by the time I ended my PCT.I will do test e again w/EQ next,so it does make me a tad bit nervous thinking about it,but not too much,so I will try NOT to think about it.

 

[blut wump]

Do orals affect you similarly? I know of some who can't touch dbol for similar reasons. It is very strange, though, and food for thought, that even the small amount in an Omna could hit you badly. It makes one wonder whether there really are other differences besides release rate from different esters.

 

[jagerbombme]

Do orals affect you similarly? I know of some who can't touch dbol for similar reasons. It is very strange, though, and food for thought, that even the small amount in an Omna could hit you badly. It makes one wonder whether there really are other differences besides release rate from different esters.

you do bring up a very interesting point. people say testosterone is testosterone once released from the ester, but this cannot be true because then why doesn't the test from prop convert to estrogen as much as the test from enanthate? see what im sayin, so they have different effects. i think im allergic to prop, it makes my stomach bloated, gassy, chest pressure, and occasionally my heart goes nutso like that beating outta control. im sticking with the fucking enanthate or cypionate.