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On the contrary, fat/protiens slow down digestion of simple carbs. Simple carbs alone cause the slin spike.
Excessive Fat Gain on Cycle
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if you put on 10 pounds on a cycle do you really expect it to be all muscle? WRONG
its a combination of water, fat, and muscle.
after all is said and done if you can get a couple pounds of actual muscle that is a great accomplishment. I laugh when skinny newbs claim to put on 20 pounds or 30 pounds of muscle in 3 months...
bottom line is you are gonna put on fat on a cycle if the scale goes up, that is NORMAL. if you don't like it then don't juice
its a combination of water, fat, and muscle.
after all is said and done if you can get a couple pounds of actual muscle that is a great accomplishment. I laugh when skinny newbs claim to put on 20 pounds or 30 pounds of muscle in 3 months...
bottom line is you are gonna put on fat on a cycle if the scale goes up, that is NORMAL. if you don't like it then don't juice
That's absolutely true. There are too many scale watchers out there, which is a terrible indicator of gains. Actual muscle tissue gained on cycle is much much less than people think, unless you are severely undersized and far below your genetic potential
and if you want to cut then run a sarm's stack and eat clean. you will lose fat.
so this should be your strategy OP. use steroids to BULK, and off cycle use sarm's to shred. this is what I do and it works well for me.
not everyone can run tren and shred up, if you have insulin sensitivity like I do you will always grow no matter what you do.. even if I run a calorie deficit I still gain on tren. strength and mass. use your strengths to your advantage instead of trying to fight things.
its actually funny I am on S4 right now and I am actually gaining strength and mass... and S4 is supposed to be a cutter. that's how my receptors react. its nuts.. but i'm not gonna bitch about it i'm gonna kill it and make those guys in the gym shit their pants when I bench 400+ and squat 600 in front of them
so this should be your strategy OP. use steroids to BULK, and off cycle use sarm's to shred. this is what I do and it works well for me.
not everyone can run tren and shred up, if you have insulin sensitivity like I do you will always grow no matter what you do.. even if I run a calorie deficit I still gain on tren. strength and mass. use your strengths to your advantage instead of trying to fight things.
its actually funny I am on S4 right now and I am actually gaining strength and mass... and S4 is supposed to be a cutter. that's how my receptors react. its nuts.. but i'm not gonna bitch about it i'm gonna kill it and make those guys in the gym shit their pants when I bench 400+ and squat 600 in front of them
I've never had luck mixing fats and simple carbs. Throws my body out of whack. Hi protein, medium fats (nuts, flax oil, natural peanut butter) and complex carbs ( yams, brown rice). And for me, no cheat day.
Using this method got me down to 4% BF, for the two shows I did. If I want to put on weight, I do the same, but increase the calories of the same foods. I maintain 9-10% BF, with minimal cardio, maybe 2 sessions a week.
Using this method got me down to 4% BF, for the two shows I did. If I want to put on weight, I do the same, but increase the calories of the same foods. I maintain 9-10% BF, with minimal cardio, maybe 2 sessions a week.
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Anyone I know that is completely successful at managing their weight counts calories and macros, including myself. Its really just a numbers game and once you get a handle on your maintenance level its simple to adjust your diet to meet weight goals. Until then, as zyglamail said you are just guessing. Although things like meal frequency and carb composition/types do make a difference focusing on that stuff is less important IMO/IME.
@EZ_E by cheat meals I mean that for dinner only, on saturday and sunday, I eat whatever I want. So that'll be a solid meal of whatever.
@injfuel I am posting pics below
The thing is, I have never counted calories or macros before because of my high workload/energy expenditure combined with my high metabolism. I've been training consistently since I was 14 and never put on fat like this, but now I know what being on cycle is like for me. I haven't been a scale watcher either, I'm going strictly by what I've seen happen to my body. I'm just listing my before and after weights to give you guys a baseline comparison.
Once again, thanks for taking the time to give me advice guys, I appreciate it.
The photos attached to this reply are Before Photos
@injfuel I am posting pics below
The thing is, I have never counted calories or macros before because of my high workload/energy expenditure combined with my high metabolism. I've been training consistently since I was 14 and never put on fat like this, but now I know what being on cycle is like for me. I haven't been a scale watcher either, I'm going strictly by what I've seen happen to my body. I'm just listing my before and after weights to give you guys a baseline comparison.
Once again, thanks for taking the time to give me advice guys, I appreciate it.
The photos attached to this reply are Before Photos
@Stevesmi: I'm assuming I'm insulin sensitive as well considering the weight gain I've had with the increase in simple carbs I've been eating. You said it best, I shouldn't be bitching about my strength gains. I'm going to cut out the majority of refined carbs in my diet now and go back to more of a Paleo approach like I had a while back. I'm going to try and get 70-80% of my carbs from veggies and fruits, with some sweet potatoes thrown in.
