Equipoise 101...for endurance

[chewy4u]

1. How can you tell a legit Equipoise vial? I've heard some talk about coloration.

I'm a cyclist looking to gain lean muscle in legs without gaining additional weight. I've done epo... and do not want to risk that again. EPO really works best for cyclists who put in over 4-6hrs of training a day.
I've heard too many bad things about winny. i.e. joint pain. EQ seems to be the best option for what I want. My questions are for doses, durations/cycles. I'm thinking less over a longer period of time. Thoughts?

 

[armyman]

I think the only way you would be able to tell if you have real EQ is to wait it out. If it kicks in sooner than 20 days you probably have some sort of testosterone IE: Cyp or Enan. If you dont feel anything for about a month then you probably have EQ.

The EQ i have seen has always been a little lighter than the test i use, however, that could depend on what type of oil is used to brew the EQ/Test if it is UGL. Really if you are cycling quite a bit testosterone will help. I dont think i have ever lost endurance on a tesosterone only cycle.

 

[REFORMATA]

FINALLY ANOTHER CYCLIST!!!



How old are you bro? what is your history in regards to anabolics? Also, what are your stats?

 

[armyman]

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[REFORMATA]

Oops...yea bro, hit up TSC, thesourcecheck.com, for that ish....not here..not at all

 

[KeepinMyGains]

Carrier oils i.e cottonseed, grapeseed dictates what the color of the gear will be.

 

[chewy4u]

I've been cycling for awhile...longer than I care to mention. However, my background was in body building...6' 0", 220lbs, BF of 7%, bench 465 and all my friends competed. I was too chickenshit. Did a few cycles however, when I couldn't run a mile to the gym w/o stopping I decided to go cold turkey. I lost it all (but still harness some residual upper body mass). Now my weight flexes between 160 -170 depending on how much belgium beer I drink come winter.
I'm not 100% if EQ is going to help especially with the lower dosing-longer duration I'm considering. what say you?

 

[RADAR]

I've been cycling for awhile...longer than I care to mention. However, my background was in body building...6' 0", 220lbs, BF of 7%, bench 465 and all my friends competed. I was too chickenshit. Did a few cycles however, when I couldn't run a mile to the gym w/o stopping I decided to go cold turkey. I lost it all (but still harness some residual upper body mass). Now my weight flexes between 160 -170 depending on how much belgium beer I drink come winter.
I'm not 100% if EQ is going to help especially with the lower dosing-longer duration I'm considering. what say you?

What are your goals now, Cycling?If so Run EQ at 400 wk for a min of 14 wks, if you're competeing then Add some Tbol (burst of strength)

RADAR

 

[REFORMATA]

What are your goals now, Cycling?If so Run EQ at 400 wk for a min of 14 wks, if you're competeing then Add some Tbol (burst of strength)

RADAR

+1

Bro you went cold turkey after how long being on? you neednt lose it all, what about a proper PCT to get your androgen levels back up?

 

[chewy4u]

+1

Bro you went cold turkey after how long being on? you neednt lose it all, what about a proper PCT to get your androgen levels back up?

That was a while ago...and when I said 'cold turkey' it was more a luke warm - dried out turkey. But now I'm looking for the best stack or single gear I can use for my sport, besides epo and winny (not that winny should even be considered). I'm at the conclusion that I'm going to have to experiment with dose to see how my body responds.
My goals, bottom line; I'm looking to add to my foundation. Something to add more strength endurance, muscular endurance (yes they are different) more power and increased vascularity.

 

[RADAR]

That was a while ago...and when I said 'cold turkey' it was more a luke warm - dried out turkey. But now I'm looking for the best stack or single gear I can use for my sport, besides epo and winny (not that winny should even be considered). I'm at the conclusion that I'm going to have to experiment with dose to see how my body responds.
My goals, bottom line; I'm looking to add to my foundation. Something to add more strength endurance, muscular endurance (yes they are different) more power and increased vascularity.

More endurance=EQ (they give it to race horses)
More power=Tbol

EQ/Tbol=increased Vascularity

RADAR

 

[tcfracer]

More endurance=EQ (they give it to race horses)
More power=Tbol

EQ/Tbol=increased Vascularity

RADAR

Is there anything that mimics these with good results? ie...legal??

 

[RADAR]

Is there anything that mimics these with good results? ie...legal??

If you mean prohormones,i highly doubt it.


RADAR

 

[eddyyyyyy]

Eq at 400 EW if it's HG like ganabol then 250 will do.

But with test E 250 EW you will get also good results.

Winny is also good for cycling at 30 mg ED best in combination with test or EQ then you will have no jointprobs.

I personaly use 250mg test E EW and 50mg proviron ed for endurance it gives me more strengt,stamina and endurance and the proviron keeps you lean(less waterretention).
Test is the best for everything because it works at all levels and it's a natural thing.

If you plan to use winny with your test E then you can drop the proviron because winny has similar capacities.

 

[REFORMATA]

HG (human grade) EQ? not likely.

 

[eddyyyyyy]

HG (human grade) EQ? not likely.

Well aqualy VET but i use the term HG to made the difference between UG and HG

 

[RADAR]

Well aqualy VET but i use the term HG to made the difference between UG and HG

Just for the Record There is no such thing as Human Grade EQ,it's a vet steroid.


RADAR

 

[REFORMATA]

Well aqualy VET but i use the term HG to made the difference between UG and HG

Vet grade and Human grade are not even close in comparison bro. lol

 

[base919]

Radar,
Took your advice and got the gear. Here's the stats on me: 5'2 female, 105 lbs, 12% body fat. This will be my first cycle, but I've been training for duathlons (cycling + running + cross weight training) for several years now. Am very muscular and lean already but want to move from the good to pro category. Am thinking of going light 50mg EQ/week... but want to know when I should hit the T-bol and how much? I weight train 2x/week and do core conditioning 2x/week along with the aerobic activity of cycling and running. Would you say just T-bol on the weight training days? Is 10mg enough for a newbie on those days? Thanks for any input...

 

[st8grad]

Vet grade and Human grade are not even close in comparison bro. lol

I know this thread is old, but many times animal drugs are actually the human version in a different package. Vet grade EQ is every bit as good as human grade gear.

You typically want a quality product to use on million dollar race horses.

 

[RADAR]

Radar,
Took your advice and got the gear. Here's the stats on me: 5'2 female, 105 lbs, 12% body fat. This will be my first cycle, but I've been training for duathlons (cycling + running + cross weight training) for several years now. Am very muscular and lean already but want to move from the good to pro category. Am thinking of going light 50mg EQ/week... but want to know when I should hit the T-bol and how much? I weight train 2x/week and do core conditioning 2x/week along with the aerobic activity of cycling and running. Would you say just T-bol on the weight training days? Is 10mg enough for a newbie on those days? Thanks for any input...

50ml Wk ain't gonna do crap you need a minimum of 300mgs wk.
Tbol use it from the start pratice take offs and time your self for 50 yards. Tbol will give you the strength increase,EQ =endurance.When you're not cycling hit the stair climber.

RADAR

 

[armyman]

300ML of EQ is a min for a female? Just curious because that seems like a high dose of an injectible for a female combined with an oral.

Curious to know so i can let some females i know have this information.

 

[Dial_tone]

300mg/week is a ridiculous amt of anabolics for a woman, especially a woman that weighs 100lbs. It stays in your system a long time and if you're anywhere near the top category testing should be a concern. You're going to have some serious masculinizing effects at that dose.

 

[RADAR]

I didn't realize we were talking about females here,thats an entirely different story

RADAR

 

[base919]

Yeah... I'm not into the masculizing side effects Maybe I should ask in the women's forum to hear their experiences with the 50mg/wk for someone small as me. Had a good power workout yesterday w/ just 5mg tbol, but it isn't in my interest to do it on a daily basis.

 

[armyman]

Shoo, thats what i thought. 300mg for females seemed like a lot to me!

 

[needtogetaas]

Is there anything that mimics these with good results? ie...legal??

halladrol for the t-bol
and there was a legal eq but they just banned it lol

 

[needtogetaas]

If you mean prohormones,i highly doubt it.


RADAR

come on radar lol.. I know your ass is old and all but you get with the times lolol... Love me some radar.

 

[needtogetaas]

Well aqualy VET but i use the term HG to made the difference between UG and HG

eq was made for horses not humans. Tanks

 

[RADAR]

come on radar lol.. I know your ass is old and all but you get with the times lolol... Love me some radar.

All i have experience with is Beastdrol which is Bad Ass.

And i'm not THAT old ....Yet!

RADAR

 

[phArmstrong]

No action on this thread? How often for Eq? Eod? Once a week?

6'3" 180lbs male

 

[jake73]

@Chewy4u
Lance Armstrong most probably use considerable quantities of HGH during his Cancer recovery. Which was enabling him to produce more muscle fibers then is competitors, hence he was never caught doing doping.
It will cost you plenty though.

 

[badq8]

Radar a friend of min is a triathlete and is considering starting a cycle, had winni in mind but after reading I'm advicing him on eq. He's 27, would you recommend to add test so that he doesn't feel the shutdown or just do a 400mg ew of eq alone?

 

[RADAR]

Radar a friend of min is a triathlete and is considering starting a cycle, had winni in mind but after reading I'm advicing him on eq. He's 27, would you recommend to add test so that he doesn't feel the shutdown or just do a 400mg ew of eq alone?

EQ will suppress you some ,i have ran a few cycles without Test,With no problems, winstrol is a bad idea he won't be able to finish on that, If test was used i would do prop at a low dosage ,however i find that not necessary until after the EQ cycle.
HGH is good ,but expensive and takes a while to build up

 

[badq8]

So eq 400ew for let say 8 weeks and proviron?

 

[BLM Shot]

Nice another triathlete. Remember when looking for cycle advice on BBing sites you are going to get dosages related to said sport (yes, even the low doses). I remember when I got my first "low dosage" advice. I blew up and couldn't run like I use to. I looked good, but I couldn't effectively use what I had gained. I am not saying it was bad advice as, generally, everyone on these boards has a big heart and is ultra helpful and only looking to benefit those they seek to help. It just was not right for my sport.

Remember for true endurance sports you are not wanting added weight. You are only doing AAS for recovery. When you run long distances a bunch your natural levels of test will be lowered. A nice low dose of test will aid in recovery and adding low dose EQ will create a potent recovery stack.

When I say low dose, I mean LOW DOSE. Low dose for bbing can be double or even quadruple what a high end cyclist or runner would take. I have received my dosage advice from a certain team doctor. Also remember endurance athletes generally take more AI than bbers because water will kill your times.

BTW EPO can be dangerous, but if done correctly can be great. Raised crit levels are amazing for long endurance. You need to be on top of monitoring yourself and really need to be at an elite level to consider this route as you will be dancing with the devil.

 

[BLM Shot]

Radar a friend of min is a triathlete and is considering starting a cycle, had winni in mind but after reading I'm advicing him on eq. He's 27, would you recommend to add test so that he doesn't feel the shutdown or just do a 400mg ew of eq alone?

Oh yeah, I did not put any protocol because I am not sure of your goals. What part of the tri are you trying to improve? are you looking for more endurance, strength, explosiveness, recovery? How long have you been training for tri? Are you competitive? Will you be tested?

 

[RickO'Shea]

MHN has very similar results like winny yet none of the joint pain. Im a volleyball player and Ive heard its awesome for athletics. just a thought.

 

[badq8]

He's been training for a year and wants to improve all the above, just finished a half iron man and wants to do the full iron man in June, first cycle never cycled before. What do u recommend on the dosage? And how many weeks?

 

[BLM Shot]

check your pm badq8

 

[jonnyboy0519]

I'm about to go do something for about 63 days thats basically going to destroy all of my endurance and muscle mass. I'm trying to figure out a stack for a recovery period after this that will get me back to where I am now in about 12 weeks or so. I'm thinking some Eq, Test, and Masteron after doing research. I just want some opinions on this.

 

[Zyglamail]

1. How can you tell a legit Equipoise vial? I've heard some talk about coloration.

I'm a cyclist looking to gain lean muscle in legs without gaining additional weight.

How can you expect to add muscle without gaining weight? You cant add something to your frame without giving something else up if you want weight to remain constant.

I've done epo... and do not want to risk that again. EPO really works best for cyclists who put in over 4-6hrs of training a day.
I've heard too many bad things about winny. i.e. joint pain. EQ seems to be the best option for what I want. My questions are for doses, durations/cycles. I'm thinking less over a longer period of time. Thoughts?

Your going to need to be carefull with dosing of any AAS that ads RBC because a little will help but if you add too much blood becomes too think and will hamper performance. Where exactly is the point where YOU get the best end benefits? No one can answer that but you. Id say start low for a few weeks and get some labs done to see where your rbc is and that combined with careful notes on your trianing and performance can help you zero in on a dose thats best for your goals but its going to take a lot of trial and error.

Adding exo androgens will shut down your own test production so you ideally want to wait probably a good 8 weeks for blood work at a given dose for your natty T to trail off and exo androgen levels stabilize.