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Epistane Help

SinisterUproar

SinisterUproar

New member
hey guys

5'6
162
10%
24 yrs old

Been lifting solid 4 years... never used any sort of pro hormone or steroid.

Was given some Epistane by IBE by a buddy at the gym, done some reasearch on it, wondering if anyone has experience with this.

its enough for about a 4 week cycle 30mg a day. along with it i was given

"Cycle Support" by anobolic innovations

and

"Post Cycle" by anobolic innovations.

Is this sufficent as a whole cycle and PCT? i also have clomid on hand because i heard this stuff will shut you down. someone help!!! thanks guys!!
 
1-4 EPI-30mg a day
1-4 On Cycle Support
1-4 N2Guard
1-4 Need2Slin
PCT
5-8 Post Cycle
5-8 Forma Stanazol
5-8 HCGenerate 4 Caps a day
5-8 DAA 3grams a day

Good Luck
Johnny D
 
PCT should always be the same after your shutting down your natural HPTA.... Dont play with it... make sure your doing it right....
May not all be necessary, but will cover you on everything and make for the best recovery the quickest.... Take it from me bro... I cycled for a year, and ive cycled for 6-8 weeks several times... Blood work showed recovery the same regardless of what i was on... And yes, its potent enough for the FDA to ban at the end of the year....
Johnny D
 
bro, you must run epistane at least 6 weeks... it doesn't even start to kick in until week 3 and 30 mg is really low dosed... i would start at 40... you definitely need the cycle supports and proper pct with epistane... it can shut you down hard... it also is methylated and so its toxic... you don't have a complete cycle right now and you need to get everything you need before running it...
 
30,g for 4 weeks won't give much in terms of gains. The sweet spot is around 40-50mg, and it is ideal to run it 6 weeks. You could run it if you want for a nice easy mild cycle, just don't expect a lot of gains from it. You may be able to get 5-6 lbs out of it if everything is in check though. Your PCT should really have more in it as well. I would at least add some Unleashed/post cycle and some low dose Clomid to it. Using AI cycle support is fine for on cycle support.
 
Thanks guys, idk what to do about running it for longer... I have 120 capsules... So I guess I could do 30mg for 5 weeks or 40mg for 4 weeks wich is suggested? And I'm not expecting to get huge, but some nice clean gains that stay after Pct would be great
 
by AI he was talking about the brand of cycle support not aromatase inhibitor.. just to clear that up

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SinisterUproar said:
Thanks guys, idk what to do about running it for longer... I have 120 capsules... So I guess I could do 30mg for 5 weeks or 40mg for 4 weeks wich is suggested? And I'm not expecting to get huge, but some nice clean gains that stay after Pct would be great
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the good thing about epi is the sides aren't bad at all. but its still a designer hormone and should be respected.. not for guys under 21 whatsoever. oh and its legal !!!

you will enjoy it.
 
you need to run epi at least 6 weeks... start at 40 the first week or two and assess your tolerance and then bump it up to 50 and so on...
 
dylangemelli said:
you need to run epi at least 6 weeks... start at 40 the first week or two and assess your tolerance and then bump it up to 50 and so on...
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Dylan is right. I'm running it right now, 60mg/day. I wouldn't recommend a dose lower than 40 by itself. If you have virgin receptors 40 would probably be fine. As far as sides the only thing I'm feeling are slightly dryer joints.

You should put as much into PCT as is necessary. I'm going to use HCGenerate last two weeks & through PCT, a light dose of clomid and a natty test booster. I've got forma and a grab bag full of other ancillaries just in case. You'll learn either the hard way or the easy way that you should have more than what you think you'll need for PCT.

Good luck
 
Oh cool I thought this stuff had been made illegal. Looks like I cn still buy it. So how about this

1-6 40-60mg EPI
1-6 cycle support
1-6 N2slin
1-6 N2gaurd

5-11 hcgen
7-11 clomid (dose?)
7-11 post cycle

Sufficient ?
 
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I would have ome forma stanzol on hand just in case. I know it's not common and depends if you are prone or not but there is always a chance for reboun gyno after the cycle so having forma on hand would not hurt. I am taking this from the research I did when I ran ibe epi.
 
digit0x said:
Dylan is right. I'm running it right now, 60mg/day. I wouldn't recommend a dose lower than 40 by itself. If you have virgin receptors 40 would probably be fine. As far as sides the only thing I'm feeling are slightly dryer joints.

You should put as much into PCT as is necessary. I'm going to use HCGenerate last two weeks & through PCT, a light dose of clomid and a natty test booster. I've got forma and a grab bag full of other ancillaries just in case. You'll learn either the hard way or the easy way that you should have more than what you think you'll need for PCT.

Good luck
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have you ran EPI before? And what is the test booster youll be using? also do you think i can expect to keep most if not all gains?
 
1-6 epi 40/50/50/60/60/60
1-6 hcgenerate
1-6 n2guard
1-10 need2slin
1-10 creatine nitrate
3-10 forma stanzol

pct

7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 unleashed/post cycle combo
7-10 daa powerchews or powder
 
split the doses 8 hours apart... two doses... first dose in the a.m. then 4 hours later take first dose of n2guard, then 4 hours later second dose of epi then 4 hours later last dose of n2guard
 
dylangemelli said:
split the doses 8 hours apart... two doses... first dose in the a.m. then 4 hours later take first dose of n2guard, then 4 hours later second dose of epi then 4 hours later last dose of n2guard
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Agree Epistane has a 6-8 hr half life. But I agree for SinisterUproar, as I know you know your $hit.
 
Trying to start first oral cycle

hey guys id like some advice what to use or if i should use dbol and andro t stack as my first oral cycle...im 22 yrs old 9-10% body fat and about 164 pounds 5'11 i play college soccer and they dont test. my calories will be high of course to get that size. before ive used methyl v, and mmv3 by LG science. let me know if anyone has any advice much appreciated
 
SinisterUproar said:
have you ran EPI before? And what is the test booster youll be using? also do you think i can expect to keep most if not all gains?
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I'm in the middle bud.

Yes, do it the right way, eat more keep lifting during PCT. You should be able to keep every pound. We have some really great products from the sponsors here that can make an oral only a complete success.
 
digit0x said:
I'm in the middle bud.

Yes, do it the right way, eat more keep lifting during PCT. You should be able to keep every pound. We have some really great products from the sponsors here that can make an oral only a complete success.
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Thank you very much sir! Can't wait!!

Also if I were too ad "bridge" to the end of this... Would I see more gains and would I have to PCT after that?
 
SinisterUproar said:
Thank you very much sir! Can't wait!!

Also if I were too ad "bridge" to the end of this... Would I see more gains and would I have to PCT after that?
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sarms are great to run in between cycles to not only keep gains but add to them... bridge is an excellent product and i have loved it when using it... if you only run bridge after your cycle then you don't need a pct... if you run a sarms stack you will need a mini pct of 3 weeks but recovery is very fast and the results can be amazing...
 
So far this stuff is legit... No noticeable side effects besides a little sleepiness and increased labido... Ordering some stuff from NTBM on Monday... GET BIG!!!!
 
Day 5 and I feel much fuller... Chest is undeniably bigger, abs even seem more defined... Arms look smaller... Could be my imagination. But it's almost like I feel myself growing all the time... Only side effect so far is some trouble sleeping and crazy ass thoughts / dreams
 
Running an epi cycle right now.30/40/40/40/40/50.Have been getting some crazy dreams aswell,no prob sleeping though thank God.
 
Honestly I'm kind of disapointed. I'm going into the end of week three now and the only change I've noticed is the scale is the same but my abs stick out a bit more... My strength went up all around after about 10 days but stayed the same after that... No noticeable changes in my body yet... Been running 60mg since the start of week three... Oh we'll I guess we'll see what happens
 
Epi is different with everyone first time I ran it I did 30 mg a day and had great results. Six week run on that my friend ran it the same but ramped o 60 and isn't see much and his diet was way more on point then mine was at the time. Everyone responds differently.
 
mstiles87 said:
Epi is different with everyone first time I ran it I did 30 mg a day and had great results. Six week run on that my friend ran it the same but ramped o 60 and isn't see much and his diet was way more on point then mine was at the time. Everyone responds differently.
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Correct you are, everyone is different...but as to scale being the same and showing more abs 3 weeks in....that's progress. What people sometimes expect out of things is sometimes the problem. Ur bodyfat is obviously down and lean muscle mass up on week 3....there is NO magic here. Hard work, dedication, and some steroids to get an edge and help recovery and speed goals along the way.
 
Gorilla-Pharma said:
Correct you are, everyone is different...but as to scale being the same and showing more abs 3 weeks in....that's progress. What people sometimes expect out of things is sometimes the problem. Ur bodyfat is obviously down and lean muscle mass up on week 3....there is NO magic here. Hard work, dedication, and some steroids to get an edge and help recovery and speed goals along the way.
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I feel you bro, still have another three weeks to go. I have been killing it in the gym and eating like crazy. This is my first PH or steroid ever so I wasn't sure what to expect
 
a lot of times epi doesn't really kick in until around week 3 or 4 bro... keep working hard and you will see the gains continue...
 
Going into week 4 now and have actually lost 3 pounds... Been killing it in the gym and consuming no less than 4 - 5000 calories a day. Wondering wtf
 
SinisterUproar said:
Going into week 4 now and have actually lost 3 pounds... Been killing it in the gym and consuming no less than 4 - 5000 calories a day. Wondering wtf
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I'm with mstiles, what was ur BF to begin with? I have a guy taking Epi now I know who has lost 6 pounds....but is a big dude now for his weight and has added a ton of muscle. It's not all about the scale bro. Have to look at the whole picture. This guy is on week 4 and before hand was just Big Redman....now eveyone is asking this guy what he is on, his diet, lifting routine etc. And in all actuality he has lost weight. (On the scale)
 
Idk bro I am and have always been a low bf slender guy. I just have a skinny build to begin with... Not wide and been building into my bird chest for a long time. Body looks exactly the same to me. I have hardened up a little bit but I stay around 10% and have always had abs. Strength went up in the first 2 weeks but leveled out after that. Idk but unless a miracle happens in the next three weeks I am honestly very confused
 
This was my first run on any sort of PH or steroid. If nothing happens I might go directly into a test E cycle with a 4 week dbol kicker
 
Sinister do not run Into an cycle without pct first. You have already been on a three weeks. What are your calories like. At 162 and 5'6 you have to eat to grow.

I ran ibe epi before and had good results def dropped bf on it though I agree with gorilla it's a whole picture thing. If your not eating enough and lifting bevy enough or doing too much cardio you will cut p on it.

Keep on it but please don't jump into another cycle right away that is just asking for problems.
 
Noticing some changes now. Definetly hardening up. Strength is really take or leave. Definetly a little stronger nothing crazy. No weight gain still. Maybe I am expecting too much? Anyway 2.5 weeks left. Lets get it!
 
Ok I'm looking bigger and bette than I ever have Definitely probably hovering around 9% body fat I was at 12% before Scale pretty much hasn't changed at all that's the only part I'm disappointed about really would've liked to see at least 5 pounds for the cycle
 
You did gain weight bro, you just also lost bad weight at the same time.

You know how hard that is? Recomp is the biggest goal for 90% of bodybuilders everywhere.

You should be patting yourself on the back buddy, pretty damn good results to shed 3%bf, yet maintain size, weight, and strength.
 
bigbassturd said:
You did gain weight bro, you just also lost bad weight at the same time.

You know how hard that is? Recomp is the biggest goal for 90% of bodybuilders everywhere.

You should be patting yourself on the back buddy, pretty damn good results to shed 3%bf, yet maintain size, weight, and strength.
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Thanks bro. I feel like a beast... It crept up on me outa now where on week 4. 14 days left!
 
This stuff is awesome... I feel incredible. It seems like in 3 days my body did a total transformation. I look rock hard and my abs are crazy. I finally understand what people mean by that "on feeling" my confidence is through the roof and I feel like I could run through a brick wall. I don't want to come off lol! Kind of scared to go into PCT in 2 weeks
 
SinisterUproar said:
This stuff is awesome... I feel incredible. It seems like in 3 days my body did a total transformation. I look rock hard and my abs are crazy. I finally understand what people mean by that "on feeling" my confidence is through the roof and I feel like I could run through a brick wall. I don't want to come off lol! Kind of scared to go into PCT in 2 weeks
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Glad it worked out for you bro. You were transforming throughout the process, but see yourself daily. It toke the dramatic change you see now for you to really notice as I think you went into it thinking it was gonna be overnight changes. All the bros on here work hard regardless of what they take for that final outcome that you see now.....Good for you on a excellent first cycle, must peoples first don't go as well. Make sure you have all PCT in order now.
 
I have some stuff on hand... Thinking about adding forma or phytoserms or unleashed... They push unleashed / post cycle here but I have hear of some people who just simply didn't recover from a N2bm PCT
 
I realize this has turned into a cycle log at this point lol but I can't help it... My body is changing in ways that I couldn't do in 4 years of lifting... Kind of scary to think about actually, how adding these hormones to your body cAn make such a huge diffrence
 
Great results so far mate.Pct will b a breeze,keep on training like a beast nd u'll b more than happy with the results.Just finishing week 5 myself of IBE epi and results bout the same as u mate,starting weight was almost 88 kg,now at 86 kg.Hopefully will add a pound or three by the time my pct finishes in few weeks.Congrats on your great results on a first cycle,the first of many for u mate.
 
Cool so you put on about 7 pounds? Your ahead of me, I'm up about 3lbs as of today. Hoping in the next 10 days I can put on another 3. Pretty extensive PCT I have planned. I'm going to do

2 500iu blasts of HCG
DAA
Unleashed or phytoserms
Clomid 25x4
And reversitol
 
Sorry mate just noticed put the weight wrong,starting weight was 86 kg now up to 88 kg,gain of four pounds so far mate.shud put on another three pounds by the end of pct.Managed to do it with the last cycle of epi I did last year.my pct will be nolva 20/20/10/10,daa,animal stak,same as the last time.wat dosage u running for the last week?ramped mine up to fifty ed for week five and going to do the same for my last week,dont seem to b getting any sides so y not lol.
 
phil34 said:
Sorry mate just noticed put the weight wrong,starting weight was 86 kg now up to 88 kg,gain of four pounds so far mate.shud put on another three pounds by the end of pct.Managed to do it with the last cycle of epi I did last year.my pct will be nolva 20/20/10/10,daa,animal stak,same as the last time.wat dosage u running for the last week?ramped mine up to fifty ed for week five and going to do the same for my last week,dont seem to b getting any sides so y not lol.
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I only have enough to finish out the last week at 60. Would have liked to do 80 but would have had to buy a. Whole notet bottle
 
Better off just finishing at 60 mate.At least u know wat u can take ed for your next cycle mate.can't wait to get cracking at my next cycle.just keep trainind like a beast for the next few weeks nd the extra pounds u want will come mate.
 
Same here mate,keep plugging away nd enter let up the hard training when u hit pct,u had a great first time cycle mate well done
 
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