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You think the Ambassador's and CIA operatives' family would be given the same treatment over this?

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if i was a family member i would be terrified of the obama machine excoriating me for being racist if i dared protest his leadership over the matter, i would quietly suffer.
imagine people camping out in front of obama's home like c-bag did at crawford, they would be brutalized as the most terrible partisan racists and run off
 
if i was a family member i would be terrified of the obama machine excoriating me for being racist if i dared protest his leadership over the matter, i would quietly suffer.
imagine people camping out in front of obama's home like c-bag did at crawford, they would be brutalized as the most terrible partisan racists and run off
C-bag...lmao
 
The Benghazi situatuon is so egregiously fucked up, Obama should be impeached for it. Having knowledge of a pending attack on a U.S. Embassy, knowing your ambassador is in danger, and deliberately telling your units to stand down is unacceptable. Those two CIA field operatives killed 65 terrorist assholes, saved roughly 30 U.S. citizens, and gave their lives in the process. Receiving several calls for help, and doing nothing about it, is treason, and then to outright lie to the public continuously about it, makes it even worse.

The two operatives had coordinates lasered in. Obama could have had a fast mover in there with a JDAM in 3 minutes. If you wanted a more clandestine approach, he could have sent in a chopper, evacuated the ambassador, and placed a tier 1 unit in the compound to make them give up.

Its a pretty big goddamn fucking deal to have a U.S. ambassador murdered, and this fuck up just shrugs it off. He should be tried for high treason. Simple as that.

The Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi collapses | Jay Bookman

The Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi collapses

8:45 am November 5, 2012, by Jay

What happens when a lie goes astray?

You may recall the right wing’s hysteria last week over the way that events had supposedly played out in Benghazi, Libya. Stoked by inflammatory, deeply irresponsible misreporting on Fox News, they insisted that this scandal was bigger than Watergate, and that for his cowardice President Obama would be disgraced as commander in chief and impeached and removed from office should he win a second term.

Oh, they were in fine, fine form, braying like so many hounds certain they have finally treed the fox.

President Obama, we were told, had AC-130 gunships within an hour of Benghazi but refused to use them to try to intervene on behalf of his ambassador. We had Special Forces units ready to go just two hours away, at Sigonella Air Base in Sicily, but a cowardly Obama again barred a rescue operation, fearful that it might endanger his re-election if it went astray.

And twice — TWICE!!! — former SEALs at a nearby CIA compound had requested permission to intervene in the assault on the U.S. consulate, but twice they had been ordered to stand down and do nothing. Finally, the ex-SEALS defied orders from Washington, made their way to the consulate and rescued some of their fellow Americans. Obama, in contrast, was ready to just let them all die.

Fox News also reported that upon returning to the CIA annex, those same ex-SEALs had “lasered” a mortar targeting their position in hopes that an AC-130 would arrive to take it out, but again no help came. That same mortar later killed two of those ex-SEALs.

But as predicted here, none of that turned out to be true. None. From beginning to end, and in all its details, that story has proved to be false.

– There were no orders from the CIA or anyone else to stand down. According to a CIA timeline released last week, once those at the CIA annex learned that the nearby consulate was under attack, an ad hoc rescue mission was quickly put together and launched within 25 minutes.

– As Pentagon spokesman George Little described it Friday, “there was no AC-130 within a continent’s range of Benghazi” that night. The closest gunship was in Afghanistan, some 2,500 miles away. The two surveillance drones that eventually reached the scene in Benghazi also had to be reassigned from elsewhere; neither was armed.

– Contrary to the Fox report, there were no Special Forces units available for insertion into the situation. Soon after word of the attack reached Washington, a special ops team was scrambled from a training facility somewhere in Central Europe — some sources have reported Croatia — and transported to Sigonella.

In addition, a second special ops unit was immediately alerted and transported from a military base here in the United States to Sigonella, as an option should a hostage situation develop. In other words, major preparations were underway to provide a military option should the opportunity arise to use it.

But as Little put it last week, the units “did not arrive until after the entire sequence of events was complete. … They were in Sigonella many hours after the attacks.” Two platoons of specially trained Marines had also been hustled to Sigonella, but again too late for intervention.

– Finally, there had been no “lasering” of the mortar position used to attack the CIA annex in the second phase of the assault. (That second phase occurred more than seven hours after the attack on the consulate had ended). There was no reason to use a laser in that fashion — the SEALs knew they had no air cover to intervene — and more importantly, no opportunity to do so.

According to the CIA, its personnel at the annex were not even aware that the mortars existed until mortar shells began falling on their position; from beginning to end, the deadly mortar attack lasted all of 11 minutes.

In conclusion, last week’s entire controversy was spectacularly, embarrassingly wrong-headed. No facts exist to justify the overheated rhetoric and allegations directed at Obama and top officials in his administration, but no apologies will follow either. Quite the contrary, I’m sure.

– Jay Bookman
 
mr. DB, all politics aside, do you think the Libya situation was handled properly? you see no problem with how it played out?
 
What's the difference between sex and the US Presidential elections?

In sex, the decision to choose the cunt or the arsehole is a pleasure.
 
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mr. DB, all politics aside, do you think the Libya situation was handled properly? you see no problem with how it played out?

Strategic mistakes may have been made, but I'm not convinced of any actual malfeasance.
 
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