Duchaine and DNP

[cockdezl]

Here is a Misc.Fitness.Weights post, by the man himself, about DNP:

"This is a reply that will hopefully
instill an interesting thread spun
out of a frivilous subject.

I work out that the Gold's in Vista.
When I returned from NJ I was
weighing 216 with a 35" waist.

I started on a mildly restricted diet,
with 20 minutes of aerobics 3X a
week, and 2-3 days a week of 200mg
DNP, and with Adipo-Kinetix 2X
a day. Within 7 days I was down to
204, with a waist of 33".

The only steroids I've taken over
the several months has been TE,
usually alternating 100mg one week,
200mg the next. I do use Propecia.

I truly feel that most of the weight I've
gained (in muscle) has because of
some kind of unexplained anabolic
rebound from ceasing DNP. I do
have research showing that DNP
causes an exercise-like stress in the
muscle. I've found that if you limit
your training while on DNP (I use
a day on, two day off schedule) you
can get these rebound muscle gains.
But it's very easy to overtrain on DNP.
I usually do 3 sets per exercise: 2 sets
of 12 reps (not to failure) and the last set
of 5-6 reps (failure). In all candor, I have
gotten more size this way than when I
used a lot of steroids, and trained almost
every day. When I was released from
prison I weighed 170 lbs.

I have not previously commented
when DNP=poison subject came up,
but I feel that DNP, in doses of 2mg/kg
can be an effective anabolic agent.
I just can't tell all the mechanisms why it
works so well."


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In other posts, Duchaine stated that he also used DNP and insulin to successfully gain about 20lbs of muscle. He did not elaborate on this though.

 

[LV 426]

You do realize that Dan has been dead for a year and a half

LV 426

 

[overrx]

most of his info is outdated

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Have to say I totally agree.It's almost as if the cells,depleted of ATP/Creatine,super-compensate when DNP has ran it's course.And dieting with it,I don't lose muscle like I do on a keto/marathon cardio regimen.So there's something to this for sure.

 

[cockdezl]

"You do realize that Dan has been dead for a year and a half"

"LV 426"

I did not know that death negates one's acheivements. I guess I should inform physicists that the Theory of Relativity is useless, since Einstein is dead.

"most of his info is outdated"

Actually, very little of his post-prison information is outdated. Duchaine is one of the few people, in this field, with no formal education yet with outstanding reasoning skills.

Also, Duchaine is one of the few in this field who have the intellectual knowledge coupled with extensive experience.

 

[The Ranger]

Good post Cock, glad to see ya around again, I think this also adds to the reasoning behind DNP's reputed effects on recepter upregulation as well....Just a thought to consider....

Ranger

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Duchaine,remains to this day,my all time favorite guru...Like Dezl stated,he not only possesed incredible knowledge,but first hand experience of everything he touted as well,not just on himself,but thousands of his own disciples.How many leading 'researchers' can make the same claims?

 

[overrx]

"I started on a mildly restricted diet,
with 20 minutes of aerobics 3X a
week"

There is no need to do aerobics on dnp, a complete waste of time, and depleting further glycogen stores

"and 2-3 days a week of 200mg
DNP, and with Adipo-Kinetix 2X
a day. Within 7 days I was down to
204, with a waist of 33". "

so with 3 days of powdered dnp (which might i add is not absorbed as fast) combined with adip and he lost 12 lbs in a week, thats bullshit, i dont care how good your dieting is or what the hell you use, but you cannt lose 12 lbs in a week without losing some muscle(Espicicially considering he only used dnp for 3 days, the most he would have lost would have been 5 lbs w/ good dieting)

"I do
have research showing that DNP
causes an exercise-like stress in the
muscle."

your muscle is not stress, it has no energy to do work

"In all candor, I have
gotten more size this way than when I
used a lot of steroids, and trained almost
every day. "

im sorry but you will not gain much size when coming off a dnp cycle. I would say 2-3 lbs max, you will think you look bigger b/c of glycogen superrcomensation. So he is saying he gains only 1 lb from a steroid cycle?

like i said, outdated info

 

[Andy13]

[BI did not know that death negates one's acheivements. I guess I should inform physicists that the Theory of Relativity is useless, since Einstein is dead.

. [/B]

So I guess Newton's laws are bunk too..

 

[cockdezl]

"There is no need to do aerobics on dnp, a complete waste of time, and depleting further glycogen stores"

Read the post again. He stated that he was only using 200mg a day. This small dose would not increase uncoupling dramatically, so therefore cardio is essential to increase the caloric deficit.

Glycogen stores are always lower during a diet. This is a signal for fat mobilization. You think the body is going to utilize it's fat stores if muscle and liver glycogen are full.

"so with 3 days of powdered dnp (which might i add is not absorbed as fast) combined with adip and he lost 12 lbs in a week, thats bullshit, i dont care how good your dieting is or what the hell you use, but you cannt lose 12 lbs in a week without losing some muscle(Espicicially considering he only used dnp for 3 days, the most he would have lost would have been 5 lbs w/ good dieting)"

If you reread it, he never stated that this was purely fat. Water loss always accompanies a good diet. The exact weight loss Duchaine claimed was not the purpose for this post. The purpose was to show real world experiences from the individual who brought this compound back into use.

"your muscle is not stress, it has no energy to do work "

Horseshit. Come back when you understand the pharmacology of uncouplers and what is really happening with DNP use. A cell with no energy is a dead cell.

"like i said, outdated info"

Yeah, yeah. We all eagerly await your next nugget of wisdom.