dont diet ,do cardio to get big an ripped

[MilkManTU]

lilmikey,

when you say you rest for 90 seconds do you mean totally stop running or are you in a jog?

 

[COL KURTZ]

Back in the 90's there was a trainer/guru who trained a lot of pros down in Thousand Oaks CA (I forget his name). Anyways he was a pretty famous guy in bodybuilding circles and one of his methods to get a guy to lose BF and stay as muscular as possible was actually to have him eat above maintenance calories and to do a lot of cardio. In other words, if the bber was to create a calorie deficit of 1000cals/day, it would all come from cardio--no calorie deficit at all from dieting. Some of his clients was doing up to 90 minutes of cardio/day but believe me they were huge and ripped. His technique is physiologically sound and it apparently works, but it is impractical for most people. Shit 90 minutes of cardio is A LOT of fucking biking/running/stairs etc.

 

[Greek God_damn Greek]

There is some truth to this, no doubt.

Back in the mid to late '80's it was considered best to eat a shitload of carbs. I used to eat 6 meals a day which consisted mainly of pastas, tuna sandwiches, steaks-with pasta and baked patatoes. We kept our fat intake down to almost nil.

We trained 3 days on one day off, doing a split routine of 2 bodyparts per workout. For cardio we played 2-3 hours of tennis almost daily.

At that time I was between 27-30 years old, and I was 5'10.5 inches tall, weighed 190 lbs and was totally shredded...picture a lean roast wrapped in saran-wrap. I don't know what body fat I was, but it was in single digits for sure.

The odd thing is, that we didn't eat a heck of a lot of protein, but tons of carbs.

 

[lilmikey]

when i said rest for 90 seconds i meant like powerwalk or whatever. walk at a brisk pace. prolly like 4-5 mph.

 

[lilmikey]

His technique is physiologically sound and it apparently works, but it is impractical for most people. Shit 90 minutes of cardio is A LOT of fucking biking/running/stairs etc.

If you didn't wanna jack ur calories too high, you could set them at a point you want to achieve that you could effectively burn off with 20-30 minutes of sprinting. then when you gain enough lean body mass so that you are at or near maintanence, just up them more. you'll probably avoid unneeded fat accumulation doing this.

 

[COL KURTZ]

If you didn't wanna jack ur calories too high, you could set them at a point you want to achieve that you could effectively burn off with 20-30 minutes of sprinting. then when you gain enough lean body mass so that you are at or near maintanence, just up them more. you'll probably avoid unneeded fat accumulation doing this.

The rationale behind eating a lot of calories is to keep your metabolism spiked. Dieting is the best way to destroy your metabolic rate. So he never had his clients diet--just exercise, which boosts your metabolism.

 

[Kid Dynamite]

Here's a thought:
At the beginning of my senior year of high school, I weighed 259. After 4 1/2 months of football and eating as much as possible (I was playing Off. Tackle and trying to keep my weight high), I weighed 228. I was just as strong as when I started the year, but I lost weight due to 2 a days 4 days a week, plus games and conditioning. I ate around 4500 calories a day on average, more if I could. However, my metabolism was cranked and all that running burned off weight quick.

 

[Kid Dynamite]

There is some truth to this, no doubt.

The odd thing is, that we didn't eat a heck of a lot of protein, but tons of carbs.

If you're natural, your body can only handle so much protein. There's no point to eat 2x bodyweight, or something like that unless you're on steroids. Your body won't be able to use it for muscle, so it goes to energy and fat. A few genetic freaks might be able to, but for a recreational lifter, you don't need more than maybe 1 to 1.5g/lb of LBM.

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Sprints are fucking Excellent.

Do em in conjuction with a proper high proten diet. Whether your bulking or cutting is irrelevant. Sprints are just fucking Excellent either way.

Peace.

 

[MilkManTU]

First thing this morning I ran 2 miles and then did sprints. Should I stop the jogging and just do more sprints? I dont think I want to do intervals they suck bad.