Does God make you fat?

[cindylou]

I don't get it. I have no problem understanding the bible. I don't understand....why can't people see what I see and why can't I explain it.


ceo..you aruge every rule and you lose the big picture...exactly what Jesus talked about aruging with the Pharisees....don't you see?

 

[AFeedz]

I'm saying god told his people not to eat pork. Of course I know xtians don't follow that. Xtians pick and choose what they want to follow from the OT (NT too for that matter). They somehow think the OT doesn't apply to them, or that it was somehow made null and void by JC and the NT.

But you are right. Jesus' word do not negate the OT. Not one bit of it according to the bible.

Matthew 5:17-18 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

So if Jesus said (in so many words), "hey it's cool to eat pork," when god said it's definitely not cool, then it's no wonder xtians are so confused.

Eating pork is only one example btw.

We could take it up a notch to the 4th commandment, to "remember the sabbath day to keep it holy."

Sabbath day is the seventh day, which is Saturday, not Sunday.

In that sentence Jesus said the law should stand til all be fulfilled. Also in the sentence he said he came to fulfill it, which he did so via his death. The point of God's law was not to make man righteous, but to show man that he was a sinner and that God was righteous. That's what Jesus came to do, and when he'd done so, the law was fulfilled, but Jesus left behind plenty of other laws to follow. All 10 commandments are named in the New Testament, for example, not as a group, but they're all there...

That being said, you're right on the Saturday being the Sabbath thing. Jesus asked that his followers observe the Sabbath and Christians blatantly choose not to do so by holding services on Sunday.

 

[cindylou]

Hebrews 10:9-10 There remains, then, a Sabbath...rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his.

The Sabbath was a sign of the OLD covenant. In the NEW covenant, Christ is our sabbath. We have His rest everyday, and resting in Christ IS resting just as God did according to the above scripture.

What anyone does on Saturday/Sunday is not done by command..nor does the day matter.

Commandment # 1: Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Mark 12:29,32; Rom 3:30; 1The 1:9; 1Cor 8:4,6; Gal 3:20; Eph 4:6; 1Tim 2:5; James 2:19. Love the Lord your God (Mat 22:39; Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27; 2Ti 3:4; Luke 11:42).

Commandment # 2: Stay away from idols. Acts 15:20,29; Eph 5:5; 1Cor 5:11; 1Th 1:9; Acts 17:16; Acts 21:25; 1Cor 6:9; 1Pe 4:3-4; 1Cor 10:7,14; 1John 5:21; Rev 2:14,20; Rev 9:20; Rev 21:8; Rev 22:15.

Commandment # 3: Do not take the name of the Lord in vain. Rom 2:24; 1Tim 6:1; Rev 16:9; Rev 13:6; Mat 12:31; Rev 16:9; James 2:7.

Commandment # 4: NOT ONE VERSE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

Commadment # 5: Honor your father and mother. Rom 1:30; 2Tim 3:2; Mat 19:19; Luke 18:20; Mat 15:4; Mark 10:19; Eph 6:2; Mark 7:10.

Commandment # 6: Do not kill. Mark 10:19; Mat 19:18; Luke 18:20; Rom 13:9; Rom 1:29; Gal 5:21; 1Tim 1:9; 1Pe 4:15; 1John 3:15; Rev 9:21; Rev 21:8; Rev 22:15.

Commadment # 7: Do not comit adultery. Mar 10:19; Mat 19:18; Luke 16:18; Luke 18:20; Heb 13:4; Mat 5:27; Gal 5:19; Mat 15:19-20; Mark 7:121; Mark 10:11-12; Rom 13:9; 1Cor 6:9.

Commandment # 8: Do not steal. Mat 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; 1Cor 6:9; Rom 13:9; Rom 2:21; 1Cor 6:9-10; Eph 4:28; 1Pe 4:15.

Commandment # 9. Do not lie. Mat 19:18; Mark 10:19; Luke 18:20; Rom 13:9; John 8:44; Acts 5:3; Col 3:9; Rev 21:27; Rev 22:15.

Commandment # 10. Do not covet. Eph 5:3,5; Mark 7:22-23; 2Pe 2:14; 1Cor 6:9; Rom 13:9; luke 12:15; 1Cor 5:11; 1Tim 6:10; 1Tim 3:2; Rom 1:29; Rom 7:7; Col 3:5-6.

 

[cindylou]

lets be honest here... a day of rest although nice..has no religious value..nor can it save you.

 

[cindylou]

you miss the point...by arguing every point.

 

[cindylou]

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others. Matthew 23:23

Certain moral imperatives are intrinsically moral, and other moral imperatives are extrinsically moral. I'll say it again; you miss the point by arguing every point. Don't lose the big picture...I'm easily lost in details so I understand how easy it is..but allow yourself first to grasp the big picture then the details will make sense.

 

[AFeedz]

Commandment # 4: NOT ONE VERSE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

Hebrews 4:9-11 9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his (If you're doing it just as God did from his, then are you not doing it on a Saturday? Because to do it on a Sunday would not be doing it just as God did, which goes back to picking and choosing). 11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.

And on that note, I don't see how you don't think a day of rest holds any religious value. If that's what you think, then you've missed God's point. God's reason for a Sabbath was never to give man a break from a hard week at work lol. God wasn't trying to be nice. His reason for the Sabbath was so that on that day, man could stop all he was doing long enough to honor God and all he had done...and I think that holds tons of religious value, don't you?

...but I'm not particularly religious, I just don't see how a religious person could not see value in making sure one takes enough time to give praise to the God they hold so dear.

 

[ceo]

Hebrews 4:9-11 9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his (If you're doing it just as God did from his, then are you not doing it on a Saturday? Because to do it on a Sunday would not be doing it just as God did, which goes back to picking and choosing). 11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.

And on that note, I don't see how you don't think a day of rest holds any religious value. If that's what you think, then you've missed God's point. God's reason for a Sabbath was never to give man a break from a hard week at work lol. God wasn't trying to be nice. His reason for the Sabbath was so that on that day, man could stop all he was doing long enough to honor God and all he had done...and I think that holds tons of religious value, don't you?

...but I'm not particularly religious, I just don't see how a religious person could not see value in making sure one takes enough time to give praise to the God they hold so dear.

The Jews got it right. Seventh Day Adventists too. lol.

I'd quote the "not one jot or tittle" verse, but I guess that doesn't really mean what it means. Fuck the Sabbath! It's whenever you want it to be or not at all. That commandment wasn't as important as the rest of them obviously. I mean there's barely any mention of it in the NEW Testament after all. Pretty sure god didn't really mean to put that one in there anyway. lolol.

Fuck it! Why not toss out the other commandments too? If one is meaningless/worhtless, then surely they are all worthless.

 

[ceo]

clearly all that resting on the sabbath is what makes one fat.

 

[ceo]

you miss the point...by arguing every point.

"If you love me, keep my commandments."