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DOES a man's slary matter??

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Frisky said:
what the fuck is money? If you have it you are miserable, if you don't have it you are miserable.

Money is what a lot of the most intelectually challenged and undeserving celebrities have. Anyone can have it if they really want it enough. You just need that certain mentality than certain people on this thread have (i.e. the 'if you're rich and have made it yourself then you're successful').
 
jd_uk said:
Money is what a lot of the most intelectually challenged and undeserving celebrities have. Anyone can have it if they really want it enough. You just need that certain mentality than certain people on this thread have (i.e. the 'if you're rich and have made it yourself then you're successful').


successful to me is two people with their children living happy lives, no matter the income status at all. I've trinkled on both sides and have had the opportunity to get into a relationship where i'd never have to worry about money again but yet that did not make me happy. What makes me happy is family, rich or poor.. its unity. There is nothing like it. Most rich family's I know don't even know their children or their activities, are not a part of them and don't desire to be. They hire someone to bring them from place to place. I DON'T and will NEVER want that for my kids. I rather be poor and happy than rich and miserable. But that is just me. Love is love is love! I will love you for who you are, Love me for who I am. A ditch may seem like a canyon at times and a hill may seem like a mountain at times.. but eventually we shall overcome this and because OUR LOVE was built on love alone and not the material things surronding us, then we have built a stronger wall to fend off the ill people that will continue to try to take us down.
 
IMO its a philosophical question to say if you had to choose between love or money or something, but in practical terms I guess i could deal w/ it, but for what I want out of life, and the life I"ve set for myself, it has a certain pricetag that taking in someone else w/ a much lower income probably wouldn't fly real far w/ me if its up to me to essentially support us both. That's me tho - the attributes that I am attracted to generally in guys are paired w/ a certain level of education, job, ambition, etc. I am not looking for millions of dollars but a good living that provides stability enough to not worry too much about retirement, etc. is my requirement. My parents are retired now and are doing very well, but they are also fairly frugal and simple-needs people. But they have 3 cars, the summer cabin & the winter condo on the beach - they put all their work & effort into the family biz and its paid off. I'm single right now, no particular thing to invest in so much of my money goes to being mobile - so I worry about when I need to eventually settle in somewhere and have enough to retire esp if I'm still single or whatever. That sort of thing really makes me pay attention....

If I were younger I"d be much more flexible w/ my "money requirements" because the assumption is that I'm (and he is) somewhere on the ladder going up as opposed to "this is as good as it gets".
 
Frisky said:
successful to me is two people with their children living happy lives, no matter the income status at all. I've trinkled on both sides and have had the opportunity to get into a relationship where i'd never have to worry about money again but yet that did not make me happy. What makes me happy is family, rich or poor.. its unity. There is nothing like it. Most rich family's I know don't even know their children or their activities, are not a part of them and don't desire to be. They hire someone to bring them from place to place. I DON'T and will NEVER want that for my kids. I rather be poor and happy than rich and miserable. But that is just me. Love is love is love! I will love you for who you are, Love me for who I am. A ditch may seem like a canyon at times and a hill may seem like a mountain at times.. but eventually we shall overcome this and because OUR LOVE was built on love alone and not the material things surronding us, then we have built a stronger wall to fend off the ill people that will continue to try to take us down.

Successful to me is just being happy that you have achieved, or are achieving what you set out to. If you and those around you are happy then what else really matters? To say that success equates to making money is very sad IMO.

Hope things go well for you Frisky.
 
jd_uk said:
Successful to me is just being happy that you have achieved, or are achieving what you set out to. If you and those around you are happy then what else really matters? To say that success equates to making money is very sad IMO.

Hope things go well for you Frisky.

I agree

You set a goal, some would be millions others in the 6digits some just want to get to a pt where they can pay their bills with extra to spare. It is all subjective from person to person.

Success for me is taking where you are and setting a goal getting there. There is NO price tag on success!

I for one have had plenty of very successful rich friends (well married into wealth) That are now more miserable than I could ever be. I struggle being a single mom, from pay check to pay check and still I am happier than they are. Its amazing or really quite weird for them to tell me they envy my life. My relationship with my kids and my beau... because all they have is a check book and credit cards to fulfill their needs. All good for the first few months but then it gets empty, not the check book but the emotion.... I prefer to be broke with love than rich with emptiness!
 
A far-flung trade in ancient Greece involving exchange of salt for slaves gave rise to the expression, "not worth his salt."
Special salt rations given early Roman soldiers were known as "salarium argentum," the forerunner of the English word "salary."
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Men value beauty and women value security. All else stems from this.

Yeah. Fundamentally all people really want is someone whose kids will survive into adulthood and procreate themselves. Everything else is filler or just an offshoot of that simple fact. Women get that by finding a man who can protect and support them, men find it from fertile women.
 
CaliGirl said:
it does not "stick" for a reason. you may not be happy with your place in life right now, or not know where you belong, but from the sounds of your post, your in a great position: You live at home, you have money in the bank, a degree, minimal resposibilities and time. So whats the rush? Why do you NEED to find a career now, a meaning now? Your living your life right... don't bog yourself down with decisions that dont really matter NOW!!! Go travel, go explore what's out there, go meet people.
Don't be down on yourself. :)

thanks for the positive support. the reason im unhappy is because i want to move out into my own place and there is no way i can do that without making some money. also my parents have noticed my laziness too and want me to get a job, lol. so yeah thats creating some tension with them. and of course, the longer the employment gap the worse it looks on the resume.

my life is actually pretty boring right now. im not really meeting many new people nor do i have many hobbies or anything. i think one of the things thats holding me back from this is that its hard for me to think about those areas when i know i dont even have a job!

the thing that scares me is that i just have no idea what i want to do for a career now. and i know i should commit a few years to something, because when people dont have commitment on their resume, that looks bad!
 
4everhung said:
A far-flung trade in ancient Greece involving exchange of salt for slaves gave rise to the expression, "not worth his salt."
Special salt rations given early Roman soldiers were known as "salarium argentum," the forerunner of the English word "salary."

Thoughtful of your parents to have a bust made of you when you were a little tyke.
 
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