Do you think we should legalize drugs?

[Crazier]

Good points havoc.

I hate when the wrong people smoke the sacred herb.

I was in a chinese restaurant last week... this g'd out gang bangin' wanna be Mexican guy is being ridiculously loud.... being lewd. Just being a real dick.

Then he shouts out 'Man, fuck, I could use another blunt yo!!!'
Everyone in the restaurant just looks at this moron.

I look at my friend, who along with myself is mighty stoned, and I tell him it's a perfect example why people have the wrong idea about pot. Because the wrong person smokes it, and starts acting like a fucking moron. Well, the thing is... he was a fucking moron before pot, and now he's a fucking moron that smokes pot. Nothing's changed about him, except now he gives real pot smokers, that appreciate and understand the drug, a bad name.

Pisses me off.
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[havoc]

Havoc, I haven't disagreed with you yet, but please school me on this . . .

Does marijuana lead some individuals (however weak they may be) to use other more dangerous, more harmful drugs?

You made me laugh with the "school" comment, funny stuff. Yes bro ,it may, its all about free will and the chance to say "no". Weak minded individuals could definitely be lead in other directions of drug use, but thats not my fault, I take responsibility for my actions, not others. I see your point very clearly. peace

 

[havoc]

Good points havoc.

I hate when the wrong people smoke the sacred herb.

I was in a chinese restaurant last week... this g'd out gang bangin' wanna be Mexican guy is being ridiculously loud.... being lewd. Just being a real dick.

Then he shouts out 'Man, fuck, I could use another blunt yo!!!'
Everyone in the restaurant just looks at this moron.

I look at my friend, who along with myself is mighty stoned, and I tell him it's a perfect example why people have the wrong idea about pot. Because the wrong person smokes it, and starts acting like a fucking moron. Well, the thing is... he was a fucking moron before pot, and now he's a fucking moron that smokes pot. Nothing's changed about him, except now he gives real pot smokers, that appreciate and understand the drug, a bad name.

Pisses me off.
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I relate. peace

 

[curling]

I see both yours(Crazier) and Huntmaster's points. You do have to worry about the message we send out to kids. Maybe their could be a compromise. Maybe weed should remain illegal as hunt wishes but the punishment reduced to like a traffic ticket(which would give the govt more money) for possession of 0 to 2 ounces and at the same lower the prison population. Because I believe like crazier that it is nuts putting someone in prison for smoking weed because it is not as bad as alcohol. And since alcohol is legal(because politicians drink), you have to weigh it against it not just on it's(weed's) own merits.

Just like steroids if you want to keep them illegal make it the same thing just a traffic ticket nothing more. It is the fair way to do it.

 

[Norman Bates]

I think everybody should be allowed to decide what he can do with his body or not. As long as it doesn´t affect other people they should not mess with other people´s life.
Therefore i think all drugs should be legalized.

A friend of mine had to go to prison because he had some xtc with him.He didn´t drive a car while being on it. He wasn´t violent. He didn´t force other people to take it. He didn´t advice other people to take it. He didn´t steal to be able to afford drugs.
Yet he went to prison for 2 years.
I think that was very unjust.

 

[Crazier]

You do have to worry about the message we send out to kids.

Absolutely. Just like alcohol, there would have to be a minimum age requirement and education on the drug.

I meant to write this earlier... it's an important point to be made.
I never said or thought a 12 year old should be able to legally spark a joint in the morning while he's waiting for a school bus.
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[p0ink]

which political party would be more inclined to help in legalization of drugs? republicans are too conservative to do so, and democrats want to make everything illegal...

 

[Immortal Juicer]

I think everybody should be allowed to decide what he can do with his body or not. As long as it doesn´t affect other people they should not mess with other people´s life.
Therefore i think all drugs should be legalized.

A friend of mine had to go to prison because he had some xtc with him.He didn´t drive a car while being on it. He wasn´t violent. He didn´t force other people to take it. He didn´t advice other people to take it. He didn´t steal to be able to afford drugs.
Yet he went to prison for 2 years.
I think that was very unjust.

what were the circumstances of his sentencing? I know people that were busted with over 5,000 pills that didnt serve time. What was his prior record?

 

[Norman Bates]

He had some with him and some more at home. I don´t know exactly how much it was, we didn´t know each other then.
He did get probation, i believe.
But my point was that he didn´t do anything immoral imho.

 

[Prometheus]

interesting thread -

as to declining morality, look at history - for thousands of years we had contstant warfare with the losers being pillaged, gladitoral deathmatches, torture and public executions at the whim of kings, the feudal system, slavery, colonialization, men having the right to beat their wives, etc. If anything, we are making good progress in the "moral" arena, generally speaking.

with drugs, there is a clear distinction between pot and the "hard" drugs. this is beyond debate -- "hard" drugs differ in that unsuspecting people can try it and become instant addicts, or even die from the experience. I'm not sure whether that justifies putting sellers in cages with rapists for 20 years, but at least justifies prohibiting their open sale.

why is pot still illegal? probably because those making the rules are making more money that way. maybe the law enforcement community, maybe the prison construction industry, I'm not sure. why can a man be forced to fight in a foreign war zone at 18, but can't drink till he's 21? same reason I'd guess - I'd say the car insurance lobby had a lot to do with that law. or why can you be fined for not protecting yourself by wearing a helmet on a motorcycle? (insurance lobby) or why can't you start a private postal service company? (postal unions) there's a lot of laws that make little sense other than economics.