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Do you think we should legalize drugs?

Crazier said:


From what I've seen HuntMaster, you're a man of tolerance... so, please explain to me, in a diplomatic way the questions I raised above.

See Hunt... I smoke pot daily. I also work 50 hours a week. I also have a 5 year old daughter I have an awesome bond with.
Your perception, no I won't say that since I don't know, but America's perception of pot, is that is destroys you.

This is what the government has brought you up to believe. The same reason you believed in Santa til about 3rd grade. You believe as you think the majority does.

I used to be against pot 100%. I had also never smoked it. Once I did, I realized it wasn't what had been brainwashed into my mind. It was a drug that allowed me to see and love more deeply.

I see nothing wrong with it. Other drugs... I won't contest. Pot, and pot alone... I can't understand it.
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IMO when we consider legalizing pot---we must do so on its own properties and not in comparison with any other legal substance.
Any drug that has merit to be legalized should hold substantial evidence in itself and the effects it has on its users.

Having said that, let me say that I do not smoke pot on a regular basis, but based on what I have seen in others---and on TV(j/k), I believe pot should remain illegal for recreational use.


I dont think Americans believe that pot destroys individuals, they just see that it makes an individual vulnerable and dulls one's motor skills/perception etc.

It is great that you have a strong bond with your daughter---this is becoming more and more rare, today.
 
Immortal Juicer said:
No kids are going to base their morals on what the president says over what their parents say. And kids without good parents are even less likely to care about the "message we send."


Kids without good parents need for society to stand for right despite financial circumstances.

The president is not yet the one saying these things --- from what I have heard it is some of the voters. It's a process, slowly chipping away at what little morality we have left.


YOu may be surprised how much kids perceive the world around them and what is 'said' to be right and wrong.
 
huntmaster said:


A. I believe pot should remain illegal for recreational use.


B. I dont think Americans believe that pot destroys individuals, they just see that it makes an individual vulnerable.

C. It dulls one's motor skills/perception etc.

D. It is great that you have a strong bond with your daughter---this is becoming more and more rare, today.

A. Why?

B. How does it make one vulnerable?

C. Sure. I didn't say you should be able to smoke and then drive. It would have to have restrictions as other drugs... such as alchohol.

D. Thank you my friend.
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The real cause of the problem is that we are taught to not think for ourselves. From religion to politics, we are told to accept things blindly and not to question them. If a politican were to say "I want to make cocaine legal," the vast majority of people wouldnt listen to another thing he had to say because he went against what had been instilled in them and they didnt want to think about it.
 
Immortal Juicer said:
The real cause of the problem is that we are taught to not think for ourselves. From religion to politics, we are told to accept things blindly and not to question them. If a politican were to say "I want to make cocaine legal," the vast majority of people wouldnt listen to another thing he had to say because he went against what had been instilled in them and they didnt want to think about it.

DING DING DING!!!

We have a winner!!!
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Crazier said:



B. How does it make one vulnerable?

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pot has been shown to impair cognition. individuals who use pot with a high THC on a regular basis have shown defects in cognitive tasks.

Youngsters who use pot are more likely to drop out of school--this being tabbed as the "amotivational syndrome"

Pot stays in the body for weeks before cleansing. White blood cells and other parts immune system do not function properly when exposed to pot.

Regular users have been shown to have a higher risk of contracting herpes as well as sustaining pneumonia.

pot is the gateway drug. individuals who never use pot are much more likely not to do the other more harmful drugs.


I understand that this is not as cut and dried for some as it is for me, that is OK---that is what makes this a discussion board.

peace out

:D :D
 
huntmaster said:



Kids without good parents need for society to stand for right despite financial circumstances.

The president is not yet the one saying these things --- from what I have heard it is some of the voters. It's a process, slowly chipping away at what little morality we have left.


YOu may be surprised how much kids perceive the world around them and what is 'said' to be right and wrong.

Stand for whats right despite financial circumstances? Look at our legal system? What should be the epitome of equal justice and protection for all citizens is a complete fucking joke. EVERYONE knows the rich and poor are treated unequally in the justice system.

President Bush Sr. gave a pardon to one of the Kali cocaine cartels highest level traffickers after 10 million dollar donation was made. Thats the worst example. Every day, rich drug traffickers are let off because of high priced attorneys while poor, uneducated people are getting mandatory minimums for selling a gram of coke.

All the sex, drug, and corruption scandals in the govt and you feel these people should be in charge of the moral message kids get. The problems start when the govt tries to do the parents job.

Our morals went out the fucking window long ago.
 
Immortal Juicer said:
The real cause of the problem is that we are taught to not think for ourselves. From religion to politics, we are told to accept things blindly and not to question them. If a politican were to say "I want to make cocaine legal," the vast majority of people wouldnt listen to another thing he had to say because he went against what had been instilled in them and they didnt want to think about it.

could it be that you are saying this b/c not everyone agrees with you.

so, let me get this straight: If one doesn't agree with the Immortal Juicer, they are a no thinking for their'self lazyass???

comm'n man, learn to respect others views.:)
 
Immortal Juicer said:


Stand for whats right despite financial circumstances? Look at our legal system? What should be the epitome of equal justice and protection for all citizens is a complete fucking joke. EVERYONE knows the rich and poor are treated unequally in the justice system.

President Bush Sr. gave a pardon to one of the Kali cocaine cartels highest level traffickers after 10 million dollar donation was made. Thats the worst example. Every day, rich drug traffickers are let off because of high priced attorneys while poor, uneducated people are getting mandatory minimums for selling a gram of coke.

All the sex, drug, and corruption scandals in the govt and you feel these people should be in charge of the moral message kids get. The problems start when the govt tries to do the parents job.

Our morals went out the fucking window long ago.

this is one area you and I dont agree on.

You believe that things are beyond repair, me I believe that every decision is either a step in the right direction or a step in the wrong direction.

I see light at the end of the tunnel.

I am an optimist.

I dont believe in throwing society to the wolves just b/c the solutions are not over-nighters.

nothing worth while ever came easy.
 
huntmaster said:


could it be that you are saying this b/c not everyone agrees with you.

so, let me get this straight: If one doesn't agree with the Immortal Juicer, they are a no thinking for their'self lazyass???

comm'n man, learn to respect others views.:)

No Hunt. That's not what it means.

What it means is that Immortal could be thrown into jail for smoking a blunt in his house because people with your views don't respect his view.

Sitting there in peace one moment... not a care to hurt anyone in the world... the next, you're getting arrested because they smelt 'marijuana' coming from your place. Now, this peaceful hard working American is in jail with people that rob, rape, murder, and beat people.

All because people with your view point feel that is what is right.

'Come on man. Learn to respect other people's views.' You can shove that quote right up your and every politician's ass.
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