Do you think we should legalize drugs?

[huntmaster]

the way I see it, i am respecting your views here on this forum.

I did not accuse you of sucking on the governments knowledge tit--did I???

I did not say: IJ and Crazier, you get your thoughts from others and you cant come up with beliefes on your own.

I let you say your peice and then responded.

there is no need for folks to get personal here.

 

[Crazier]

the way I see it, i am respecting your views here on this forum.

I did not accuse you of sucking on the governments knowledge tit--did I???

I did not say: IJ and Crazier, you get your thoughts from others and you cant come up with beliefes on your own.

I let you say your peice and then responded.

there is no need for folks to get personal here.

Oh damn. Here we go with someone else getting all butt-hurt and going off crying.

Hunt... I asked you direct questions. You have avoided them.

You have avoided them because you can not answer them.

You avoid them the same way the people that arrest someone for smoking a joint in the privacy of their home.

They can't understand why exactly they are arresting this person... other than the fact that 'it's against the law and have to follow that.'

Bahahahaha.

Nothing is personal here Hunt. We're having a discussion.
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[huntmaster]

allright, now I am a bit pissed.

I said what I did b/c we were getting off subject with all the 'you took it from the gov, hook line and sinker' crap.

Anyone here can throw e-darts at me all day long and I could not care less.

I just like to stay on subject.

You questions have been answered.

 

[Immortal Juicer]

this is one area you and I dont agree on.

You believe that things are beyond repair, me I believe that every decision is either a step in the right direction or a step in the wrong direction.

I see light at the end of the tunnel.

I am an optimist.

I dont believe in throwing society to the wolves just b/c the solutions are not over-nighters.

nothing worth while ever came easy.

Sorry if I came of disrespectful. No matter what you think I will always respect your right to do so. I'm glad you have a different opinion so I can question my personal beliefs.

What are you basing your beliefs that the current policy is working or ever can be successful on?

I cannot see any indication that we are making any progress whatsoever in the war on drugs.

Look at my original post and tell me where I am wrong? How would it benefit society to keep drugs illegal as opposed to govt regulation?

 

[huntmaster]

Thanks Immortal Juicer.

I dont claim to have the answers to fix this problem, all I know is when I want my little brother to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that drugs are harmfull--pot included. I have told him this and me and him are very close. I feel like he would not do drugs if they were legal. However, I do feel that there are many that would fall victim if they were legalized.



I too try to learn here, but most of my beliefs are pretty firm. I feel that society is over ridden with crime and problems b/c we as a society waffle on all the issues.


(keep in mind while reading this that I am not comparing these crimes to smoking pot)
In texas we say that murder gets the death penalty, when it really does not in many cases. We say that rape is really bad, but then we give people second chances. We say that child molesting is really bad, yet there are those out there that would go to there grave trying to keep these individuals names out of the paper and off of the net(identified as pedifiles.)

We have talk strong as a society, but when it comes down to it, we dont enforce.

When I was young, I knew that if I did wrong and my dad found out, I would get me ass wooped! I tried to weasle out of it the first few times, but I found out that makes it worse. this is what we need as a society.
If criminals knew for sure that they would get the death penalty for murder and they would get it quick, the murder rate would drop drastically.

The law tries to come accross as some no-nonsense strong arm, when they are really nothing more than a clanging symbols, making noise.

 

[JohnyJuice]

We have talk strong as a society, but when it comes down to it, we dont enforce.

When I was young, I knew that if I did wrong and my dad found out, I would get me ass wooped! I tried to weasle out of it the first few times, but I found out that makes it worse. this is what we need as a society.
If criminals knew for sure that they would get the death penalty for murder and they would get it quick, the murder rate would drop drastically.

The law tries to come accross as some no-nonsense strong arm, when they are really nothing more than a clanging symbols, making noise.

Exactly. This is because we have a society run by weaklings. The strong have been sitting back and have let the weak get behind the wheel of this country. Take the power back!!

 

[aurelius]

When I think about ANY illegal drug...I think about it this way. Do I want my 8 year old son using it? What about my daughter? When they go to grade school...or high school...do I want them using these things? No. I find smoking highly repulsive and wish that it was illegal too..but that is just my opinion.

This is about the worst logic I´ve ever read on this site. Alcohol and tobacco aren´t illegal. Cool if your 8 year old uses it?

You are using the illegality to judge the "badness" of the substance.

 

[aurelius]

pot is the gateway drug. individuals who never use pot are much more likely not to do the other more harmful drugs.

This is 100% myth. Many of your other assertions are also erronious. You are profoundly ignorant on this subject. If you are interested in educating yourself, I suggest the following book: DRUG WAR HERESIES. Forgot the author.

 

[havoc]

I'll start with your original question.
Do you think we should legalize drugs?
One reason I would say "yes" is because of the garbage/lies/deceit that the govt. attempts to fill the weak minded with. I would love to debate/school anyone on the subject of herb, especially on TV where millions are watching. I would completely learn and make fools of any man saying 1 thing negative about herb(I am only speaking about herb), whether it be the president, the drug czar, doctors or whomever, they would get there ass' handed to them in an effortless fashion. So I say "yes" now just because I like making people look the morons they already are, to expose them. Herb is already the #1 cash crop in the United States, it has hundreds of medicinal uses, hemp has thousands of uses, herb has been given a negative stigma due to the SOLE fact that the govt. cannot control in the fashion they want to, anything the govt. cannot dominate they exploit with garbage and petty lies, I expect nothing else from the dick jammers. Its a plant for fucks sake, you don't have to convert it to anything, you just pick the bud and utilize.
Now drugs like Cocaine, heroin, speed, etc, I say no, those are garbage of the earth and provide nothing for anyone. Now you might be saying to yourself "thats what some people think about herb", well, go ahead and try me in this thread and I will own you on the subject, seriously try me please.
Now I must say this also(this is my real answer in a personal fashion), I would not want herb legalized because of this: I have many friends who are growers, who make a living on ganja, I would hate herb to be legalized and profits go down for my friends. These gentlemen pull some serious bank. Also, I believe only certain people need to be utilizing the holy herb, if it were legalized, many dipshits who have no reason why it is to be used would be smoking or ingesting it, it is not something one should play around with, herb is a serious sacrament to many. The usual way a pot head is displayed on TV is some dumb bastard, dressed like a hippy, laughing and eating some chips or something related. I know of no one I hang with who acts in such ways or displays mannerisms of this type, I use herb to focus, if one is going to use it, use it properly, of course thats my opinion. If herb was legalized, many would be using it for the wrong reasons, thats not right. peace

 

[bigguns7]

I'll start with your original question.
Do you think we should legalize drugs?
One reason I would say "yes" is because of the garbage/lies/deceit that the govt. attempts to fill the weak minded with. I would love to debate/school anyone on the subject of herb, especially on TV where millions are watching. I would completely learn and make fools of any man saying 1 thing negative about herb(I am only speaking about herb), whether it be the president, the drug czar, doctors or whomever, they would get there ass' handed to them in an effortless fashion. So I say "yes" now just because I like making people look the morons they already are, to expose them. Herb is already the #1 cash crop in the United States, it has hundreds of medicinal uses, hemp has thousands of uses, herb has been given a negative stigma due to the SOLE fact that the govt. cannot control in the fashion they want to, anything the govt. cannot dominate they exploit with garbage and petty lies, I expect nothing else from the dick jammers. Its a plant for fucks sake, you don't have to convert it to anything, you just pick the bud and utilize.
Now drugs like Cocaine, heroin, speed, etc, I say no, those are garbage of the earth and provide nothing for anyone. Now you might be saying to yourself "thats what some people think about herb", well, go ahead and try me in this thread and I will own you on the subject, seriously try me please.
Now I must say this also(this is my real answer in a personal fashion), I would not want herb legalized because of this: I have many friends who are growers, who make a living on ganja, I would hate herb to be legalized and profits go down for my friends. These gentlemen pull some serious bank. Also, I believe only certain people need to be utilizing the holy herb, if it were legalized, many dipshits who have no reason why it is to be used would be smoking or ingesting it, it is not something one should play around with, herb is a serious sacrament to many. The usual way a pot head is displayed on TV is some dumb bastard, dressed like a hippy, laughing and eating some chips or something related. I know of no one I hang with who acts in such ways or displays mannerisms of this type, I use herb to focus, if one is going to use it, use it properly, of course thats my opinion. If herb was legalized, many would be using it for the wrong reasons, thats not right. peace

Havoc, I haven't disagreed with you yet, but please school me on this . . .

Does marijuana lead some individuals (however weak they may be) to use other more dangerous, more harmful drugs?