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Do you like kids

Kids or not????

  • Yes I love kids...And don't regret it at all.

    Votes: 14 45.2%

  • If I could do it over again, I would not have them.

    Votes: 2 6.5%

  • No way kids are not for me

    Votes: 6 19.4%

  • I love FREEDOM not parenthood

    Votes: 9 29.0%
  • Total voters
    31
nefertiti said:
My sister's husband up and decided he didn't want to be a father one day, too (a child they had planned for, mind you). It's not like oldandconfused left and abandoned them while they were too young to know better. I hear every week about the anger issues Connor has because he knows his father didn't want him (he was five). Blueta, I think if he left after the first or while they were both still babies, I'd be less horrified (I'd even understand, to a degree, and I agree that in some ways it's better that he not be there at all than he be there and be shitty). But he was there for the first six and nine years of their life. Once you choose to be there that long, him leaving and cutting them out of his life is no longer like a woman having an abortion. It's like a mother up and deciding to give her kids to the foster care system at that age simply because she doesn't want to be tied down to them. He made a choice after they were born to be in their lives. He didn't walk till years later. Once you've invested years into raising the kids, the "I didn't want them, she tricked me into having them" bit is irrelevant because he made a choice to stay long enough for them to develop emotional issues from him leaving. Yeah, his wife is lotsofbadwords for getting pregnant when he said he wasn't ready. Yeah, it was manipulative. Yeah, he probably never should have gotten married in the first place. But you know what? Those kids are the ones that really got the short end of the stick.

(lol...remembering something from Chris Rock..."When you have a daughter, you're one responsibility in life....is to keep her off the pole")
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ok wait, maybe I misread or didn't read. Oldandconfused left his kids when they were 6 and 9 yrs of their lives, then walked away?

If that's the case, then that is a different story.
I think ALL kids are better off w/out parents who are bad parents than to have them and they mess u up for life.
 
blueta2 said:
ok wait, maybe I misread or didn't read. Oldandconfused left his kids when they were 6 and 9 yrs of their lives, then walked away?If that's the case, then that is a different story. .
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YES.

now you understand where my judgement comes from?
His kids aren't dealing with a man who left their mom when they were first born... his daughter was NINE and he left. won't even look at pictures of her because he doesn't care.

that's heartless.
 
stilleto said:
YES.

now you understand where my judgement comes from?
His kids aren't dealing with a man who left their mom when they were first born... his daughter was NINE and he left. won't even look at pictures of her because he doesn't care.

that's heartless.
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I think it is more heartless his wife chose to bring kids into the world with someone who told her he wasn't ready. (yes I know it takes two)

I know guys who did stick around after the kid. But, over yrs of hating that she did that they were taking it out on the kids.

I am not defending the traditional deadbeat dad's, or even oldandconfused.

But, the problem is women getting preg on purpose after man says he is not ready, to keep a man in her life, or to just get a paycheck.

I hope they invent birthcontrol for men. But, until then all men should use their OWN condoms everytime. Even when the girls says "please!! I want to feel YOU!! I am on the pill!!!!"
 
stilleto said:
YES.

now you understand where my judgement comes from?
His kids aren't dealing with a man who left their mom when they were first born... his daughter was NINE and he left. won't even look at pictures of her because he doesn't care.

that's heartless.
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I need time to reread this thread......
It sounds like severe depression to me. Like his numbness factor went into play.
It reminds me a little of people who get a pet, they love this pet for yrs, and then decide to bring it to a vet to get put down or bring it to the spca to give it up. There is a total disconnection there.
As far as what I was saying about having a choice when the kids are very little or not yet born, I stand by that, but this, well I can't relate b/c I have a sensitivity chip.
 
all the whey said:
I think it is more heartless his wife chose to bring kids into the world with someone who told her he wasn't ready. (yes I know it takes two)

I know guys who did stick around after the kid. But, over yrs of hating that she did that they were taking it out on the kids.

I am not defending the traditional deadbeat dad's, or even oldandconfused.

But, the problem is women getting preg on purpose after man says he is not ready, to keep a man in her life, or to just get a paycheck.

I hope they invent birthcontrol for men. But, until then all men should use their OWN condoms everytime. Even when the girls says "please!! I want to feel YOU!! I am on the pill!!!!"
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maybe she was hoping he would change. Silly women always think we can change men. He was firm in his belief, she did try, but if he stuck around that long and left! I can't relate! I wouldn't judge, but I can't relate.
They do have birth control for me, it's call a vasectomy!
 
You all quit fighting up in here. And I don't like your kids either. Damn brats.
 
digimon7068 said:
he filled a hole in my life that i didn't even know was there until he was born. . .my dreams for the future have changed forever. . .

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yep, couldn't have said it better.....
 
Wait until they become teenagers and disappoint the hell out of you.
 
blueta2 said:
maybe she was hoping he would change. Silly women always think we can change men. He was firm in his belief, she did try, but if he stuck around that long and left! I can't relate! I wouldn't judge, but I can't relate.
They do have birth control for me, it's call a vasectomy!
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That is absolutely right she figured he would change. This shit has happened to many people I know. Enough where I am considering a vasectomy.

I know a few guys who stuck around awhile or forever but the feeling how they were taken advantage of kept building even though they were trying to do "the Right Thing". They eventually took it out on the kids.

Same thing happens when dad finds out he is really not the father. Then, stays in the kids life. Over time it just keeps bothering them.
 
all the whey said:
Props to you. You did it right in my opinion.

1. Do you think you are a better dad, and can give more to your son that you waited? (instead of having kids at 20?)

2. Are you going to tell your good looking son NOT to have kids young?
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1) Personally, I could have fatherd a child, but prior to my late 30's I could have never been a Dad. It was all about ME, drugs and pussy. ( I used to be a good looking MF'er in my 30's now, I have the pics on my desk, I'll post them sometime. I was a goodlooking single guy with plenty of money, the wimmins weren't a problem. LOL)

2) yes, I already do. I tell him that there are 3 things that wil keep him from playing baseball in college. ( that's his 10 year old focus, baseball in college and posibly MLB)
(a.) abusing alcohol- he knows that I'm "allergic" to alcohol and it caused me many problems
(b.) illegal drugs of any kind, period
(c.) getting a girl pregnant before he finishes HS, as he gets older, I'll adjust the logic, that's all a 10 year old can absorb IMO...
 
As far as my personal feeling towards kids...I love and adore the ones I am related to. I would love to ONE DAY have kids. But even if I were married I wouldn't be ready now. There are a lot of things I have to work out first.
 
txbondsman said:
1) Personally, I could have fatherd a child, but prior to my late 30's I could have never been a Dad. It was all about ME, drugs and pussy. ( I used to be a good looking MF'er in my 30's now, I have the pics on my desk, I'll post them sometime. I was a goodlooking single guy with plenty of money, the wimmins weren't a problem. LOL)

2) yes, I already do. I tell him that there are 3 things that wil keep him from playing baseball in college. ( that's his 10 year old focus, baseball in college and posibly MLB)
(a.) abusing alcohol- he knows that I'm "allergic" to alcohol and it caused me many problems
(b.) illegal drugs of any kind, period
(c.) getting a girl pregnant before he finishes HS, as he gets older, I'll adjust the logic, that's all a 10 year old can absorb IMO...
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Allergic to Alcohol?

Explain.

It's an intoxicant, I am aware - so it's basically a poison. What is your allergic reaction to it though besides the normal fact that it's poisonous?
 
jh1 said:
Allergic to Alcohol?

Explain.

It's an intoxicant, I am aware - so it's basically a poison. What is your allergic reaction to it though besides the normal fact that it's poisonous?
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There's a theory that alcoholics have an allergy to alcohol which is what makes them dependant upon it.
 
jnevin said:
There's a theory that alcoholics have an allergy to alcohol which is what makes them dependant upon it.
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I'm allergic to coke.

Also, I know lots of people that are allergic to posion ivy. I don't see them eating p-ivy salads!!!!!

LOL... sorry... lame humor.
 
jh1 said:
I'm allergic to coke.

Also, I know lots of people that are allergic to posion ivy. I don't see them eating p-ivy salads!!!!!

LOL... sorry... lame humor.
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*blank stare*
 
jh1 said:
I'm allergic to coke.

Also, I know lots of people that are allergic to posion ivy. I don't see them eating p-ivy salads!!!!!

LOL... sorry... lame humor.
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*blank stare*
 
blueta2 said:
I need time to reread this thread......
It sounds like severe depression to me. Like his numbness factor went into play.
It reminds me a little of people who get a pet, they love this pet for yrs, and then decide to bring it to a vet to get put down or bring it to the spca to give it up. There is a total disconnection there.
As far as what I was saying about having a choice when the kids are very little or not yet born, I stand by that, but this, well I can't relate b/c I have a sensitivity chip.
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**blank stare**
 
blueta2 said:
ok wait, maybe I misread or didn't read. Oldandconfused left his kids when they were 6 and 9 yrs of their lives, then walked away?

If that's the case, then that is a different story.
I think ALL kids are better off w/out parents who are bad parents than to have them and they mess u up for life.
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Yeah and he was 19 when the 1st one was born and he is 48 now so that makes his children now 26 and 29 years old...

Can you see any reason on earth why you would not want any contact or knowledge about your own grown adult children?

Plus he cut contact with his own Mother for trying to get him to talk to his children.

It's not like he has to change their diapers anymore...

Talk about hateful people...That is insane...
 
jh1 said:
Allergic to Alcohol?

Explain.

It's an intoxicant, I am aware - so it's basically a poison. What is your allergic reaction to it though besides the normal fact that it's poisonous?
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it's how I explain it so he understands that I can't drink, he sees my friends drink at the pool, partys, etc, but I don't. It's better than saying to a 10 year old, "I'm a recovering alcoholic/ addict, and alcohol fucked up a lotta shit for me." When he's older, I'll give him a better explanation. For now, he knows that some peole are "allergic" to things and that they make them sick...
I'm open for other/ better angles, you gotta kid too, what's your take on it...
 
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txbondsman said:
it's how I explain it so he understands that I can't drink, he sees my friends drink at the pool, partys, etc, but I don't. It's better than saying to a 10 year old, "I'm a recovering alcoholic/ addict, and alcohol fucked up a lotta shit for me."
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


okay.

Cool.
 
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I don't think I was meant to have kids, and that's ok with me. My first serious GF was a diabetic that had very little control over her blood sugar levels so the thought of her being pregnant with her BG out of wack potentially causing harm to the baby made us decide not to have any kids. Then when we split up and I met my current GF, she told me early on that she couldn't have children, so I had to make a decision whether I wanted to pursue this relationship or find someone that could potentially give me kids. I decided that this woman was too awesome to let go so that was it. We decided that instead of having kids, we would basically save our money and travel and enjoy life.

We have talked about getting some fish though......
 
BIKINIMOM said:
And this is funny exactly how?

Please enlighten us. We all like a good laugh as well.
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Because, you may have mentioned that subject once or twice in the past.

So,feel free to join us in our laughter.
 
avidinternet said:
Yeah and he was 19 when the 1st one was born and he is 48 now so that makes his children now 26 and 29 years old...

Can you see any reason on earth why you would not want any contact or knowledge about your own grown adult children?

Plus he cut contact with his own Mother for trying to get him to talk to his children.

It's not like he has to change their diapers anymore...

Talk about hateful people...That is insane...
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I don't think it has anything to do with hate.
Women who kill their kids don't hate their kids, they are not well and have become overwhelmed with life.
I'm not making excuses, but until we walk in someone else's shoes, it tough to judge.
 
borris said:
llooooooooooll its so fun to watching this old hag explode in fury
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Who are you talking to?

Ummmmm you don't see me starting threads or stirring shit. Someone reds me because his ass got e-owned then they had better be prepared to accept similar measures. right?
 
txbondsman said:
it's how I explain it so he understands that I can't drink, he sees my friends drink at the pool, partys, etc, but I don't. It's better than saying to a 10 year old, "I'm a recovering alcoholic/ addict, and alcohol fucked up a lotta shit for me." When he's older, I'll give him a better explanation. For now, he knows that some peole are "allergic" to things and that they make them sick...
I'm open for other/ better angles, you gotta kid too, what's your take on it...
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I always like to tell the truth if I can. Not to tell every detail, but to tell enough of it while being truthful. Everyone has their own way, and it;s cool that you're doing it the way you are. You know you'll have "the talk" at a later time.

I personally would just say "Daddy and alcahol don't mix well. I've tried it before, and I definately know that I don't like it. I've told myself that I would never have it again. So far I've been true to myself. High five kid! lol

Stuff like that. It's still the truth. I'd hate to one day tell my kid "Well, I've lied about that... now here's the real story."

Yes, she does believe in Santa clause. Damn you people!


Actually my nephew dresses as Santa every Christmas. After one Christmas with him, my daughter was talking about it. We asked her how her visit with Santa was, since she had a conversation with him? She said You mean Uncle Steven in the costume? wtf? Can't fool the 3 year olds.

Damn kids!

Can I change my vote?

I didn't vote anyway.
 
borris said:
llooooooooooll its so fun to watching this old hag explode in fury
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dude, serious grow up and go play in another thread. It's so fucking disrespectful to talk to someone like that.
Please, be kind ok!
 
all the whey said:
Because, you may have mentioned that subject once or twice in the past.

So,feel free to join us in our laughter.
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What is so funny about the torture that has befallen my family?

You laughing at a 14 y/o that is sexually abused by her father and her sisters being physically, emotionally and mentally abused as well?

THAT is what is so funny?

Or perhaps it is that I am COMPLETELY incapable of protecting them?

Maybe THAT is the part that is funny.

Let me know so I can laugh too....
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Who are you talking to?

Ummmmm you don't see me starting threads or stirring shit. Someone reds me because his ass got e-owned then they had better be prepared to accept similar measures. right?
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um, last time I checked noones talking about you


so tut tut, run along now
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Who are you talking to?

Ummmmm you don't see me starting threads or stirring shit. Someone reds me because his ass got e-owned then they had better be prepared to accept similar measures. right?
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Who got e-owned? I want in on the fun!
 
BIKINIMOM said:
What is so funny about the torture that has befallen my family?

You laughing at a 14 y/o that is sexually abused by her father and her sisters being physically, emotionally and mentally abused as well?

THAT is what is so funny?

Or perhaps it is that I am COMPLETELY incapable of protecting them?

Maybe THAT is the part that is funny.

Let me know so I can laugh too....
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ATW is a cool dude, I don't think he was laughing at your situation, I think he's just being a wise guy.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
What is so funny about the torture that has befallen my family?

You laughing at a 14 y/o that is sexually abused by her father and her sisters being physically, emotionally and mentally abused as well?

THAT is what is so funny?

Or perhaps it is that I am COMPLETELY incapable of protecting them?

Maybe THAT is the part that is funny.

Let me know so I can laugh too....
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I'm laughing.

That's some funny ass shit right there.
 
borris said:
um, last time I checked noones talking about you


so tut tut, run along now
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Still pissed off that my arms are bigger than your arms even though they are only 11" if that?

Sorry, but I ain't *runnin* nowheres... and certainly not from the "likes" of someone like you.
 
borris said:
um, last time I checked noones talking about you


so tut tut, run along now
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I think someone's parents would answer "wish I never had kids" in this thread ;-)

come on guys......stop the nonsense or I will have to spank you all.
JH1, dishing back and forth it childs play, just move on and don't let it get your panties in a wad
 
blueta2 said:
dude, serious grow up and go play in another thread. It's so fucking disrespectful to talk to someone like that.
Please, be kind ok!
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okay blueta, i'm sure she never once said anything to desize anyone elses character either... right.... lol
 
BIKINIMOM said:
What is so funny about the torture that has befallen my family?

You laughing at a 14 y/o that is sexually abused by her father and her sisters being physically, emotionally and mentally abused as well?

THAT is what is so funny?

Or perhaps it is that I am COMPLETELY incapable of protecting them?

Maybe THAT is the part that is funny.

Let me know so I can laugh too....
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Settle down.

I was just joking around.

Not joking about child abuse. (this time)
 
blueta2 said:
ATW is a cool dude, I don't think he was laughing at your situation, I think he's just being a wise guy.
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Oh I know HE isn't.... it's all the other lowlife scumbags that think their lives are so "safe"... well most of them already have a great start by who their baby mama's are.

No skin off my nose. I have a piece of shit scumbag exhusband of my own and believe me - I AINT LAUGHIN.

Nor will I laugh when THEIR CHILDREN are abused.... even after all the shit that has happened to my family. I am human.... they aren't.

That is on THEM... not me.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Still pissed off that my arms are bigger than your arms even though they are only 11" if that?

Sorry, but I ain't *runnin* nowheres... and certainly not from the "likes" of someone like you.
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awwwww, did bikinimom catch feelings again??


lllllllllokloolol cry
 
borris said:
okay blueta, i'm sure she never once said anything to desize anyone elses character either... right.... lol
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I need peace........all I'm saying is give peace a chance. Love to love ya baby. Give a little bit of your love to me
 
borris said:
awwwww, did bikinimom catch feelings again??


lllllllllokloolol cry
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feelings about what?

Seems to me your homeboy was the one with his feewings being hurted...

I am still trying to understand what is so funny...

Really, what part of ANY of this is funny?

A grown man admits that he was forced into being a father and he ups and abandons his kids and unbelievable hatred and judgment is unleashed on him.

I have the opposite story and that is somehow FUNNY?

Yea ok...

Go source post openly... THAT is funny.


..... or maybe not.
 
BOWTECH said:
Question to everyone. I do not have kids and NEVER will. If you had the chance to do it all over again would you have children or would you opt not to.

Nothing against kids personally but I am a very selfish person and I do not have any children. I have been able to do the things in life I have always wanted and if I would have had children I wouln't have been able to experience these things.
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As you know, I have a son and a step-son. Yes I love them and they will be my hunting buddies, just as they are my workout parteners. Greatest thing that ever happened to me. I used to be very selfish too, but they have a way of changing you.

Swtrue
 
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