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Hey boys, i wanted to hop in on the forum and reach out regarding some issues i’ve had and many other people have had regarding my EX coach Swcc @Swcc Coaching, which everyone knows who he is. Just please be aware of who this guy truely is before you sign up with him.



Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself and wanted to take things to next level under guidance of a coach, so i obviously saw Swcc physique and hes knowledge and put my trust into the guy. I wanted to show him i was committed and willing to pay him 52 weeks (1 year) upfront to show him im in this fully.



I was on 150mg test E previously, never upped it, Swcc knew that. I joined up with him, he got me blasting 750 test 350 primo 150npp 100 mast 18iu of HGH, 4iu novorapid. Mind you i’m only on 2.4k calories, low carbs. Instead of increasing my food whenever my weight would stabilise- if it did as i was hella watery and weight kept spiking and spiking, he would just keep pushing my doses higher and higher instead of food.



This cycle was 20 odd weeks. Keep in mind, 0 BLOODS were taken (never requested for them). 0 Blood pressure checks were requested or told me to take them. 0 Blood glucose checks too. That’s on 18iu mind u. With using overdosed HGH which is actually 22iu a day, which he knew.



I didn’t know that what i was doing at the time was wrong and the cycles he put me on was wrong. It wasn’t til the fact, 10 other clients left (in space of 2 days) and made me realise what he was actually doing to my health so i decided myself that i have to pull the pin and leave swcc for the better of me as i knew it was the right thing for me leaving me 20 weeks of payments to be refunded ($1700), which Swcc agreed to refund me on, and he didn’t. Instead he decided to block me on every platform possible.

Swcc is a very terrible person.



I am now thankfully with a new coach, under proper guidance and taking all health protocols seriously. Got bloods done and they weren’t exactly healthy at all, that’s what happens when you sign up with Swcc, you get unhealthy. He does not care about health at all.





Feel free to join in on your experiences in the comments.
 
GredDoucette11 said:
Hey boys, i wanted to hop in on the forum and reach out regarding some issues i’ve had and many other people have had regarding my EX coach Swcc @Swcc Coaching, which everyone knows who he is. Just please be aware of who this guy truely is before you sign up with him.



Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself and wanted to take things to next level under guidance of a coach, so i obviously saw Swcc physique and hes knowledge and put my trust into the guy. I wanted to show him i was committed and willing to pay him 52 weeks (1 year) upfront to show him im in this fully.



I was on 150mg test E previously, never upped it, Swcc knew that. I joined up with him, he got me blasting 750 test 350 primo 150npp 100 mast 18iu of HGH, 4iu novorapid. Mind you i’m only on 2.4k calories, low carbs. Instead of increasing my food whenever my weight would stabilise- if it did as i was hella watery and weight kept spiking and spiking, he would just keep pushing my doses higher and higher instead of food.



This cycle was 20 odd weeks. Keep in mind, 0 BLOODS were taken (never requested for them). 0 Blood pressure checks were requested or told me to take them. 0 Blood glucose checks too. That’s on 18iu mind u. With using overdosed HGH which is actually 22iu a day, which he knew.



I didn’t know that what i was doing at the time was wrong and the cycles he put me on was wrong. It wasn’t til the fact, 10 other clients left (in space of 2 days) and made me realise what he was actually doing to my health so i decided myself that i have to pull the pin and leave swcc for the better of me as i knew it was the right thing for me leaving me 20 weeks of payments to be refunded ($1700), which Swcc agreed to refund me on, and he didn’t. Instead he decided to block me on every platform possible.

Swcc is a very terrible person.



I am now thankfully with a new coach, under proper guidance and taking all health protocols seriously. Got bloods done and they weren’t exactly healthy at all, that’s what happens when you sign up with Swcc, you get unhealthy. He does not care about health at all.





Feel free to join in on your experiences in the comments.
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His unethical conduct extends well beyond this, though this is a fuckin’ huge problem in its own right.

He has been banned on UGL Talk and other forums for a while.

Glad to hear you’re sorted with a good coach now bro.
 
Also had the displeasure of dealing with Swcc, thankfully not as a client. Some of the protocols he pushes on his clients are fkn wild with complete and total disregard for health - literally zero health monitoring whatsoever

Blocking a client on all platforms after agreeing to pay them back also shows just how spineless he can really be

It’s one fucked up story after another with this bloke, should not be allowed to coach full stop
 
Blokes a danger to his clients, I was one of his longest clients and I had to pull the pin asap. Not only is he dangerous but he’s a huge grub and one of the most selfish people I know. From trying to under cut vendors in their own chats to making fun of his own clients to fit in. Takes 0 accountability for his actions and blames everyone else for being an asshole. I could go on and on about everything else his done but I could guarantee it still wouldn’t get through his skull
 
Django_ said:
Blokes a danger to his clients, I was one of his longest clients and I had to pull the pin asap. Not only is he dangerous but he’s a huge grub and one of the most selfish people I know. From trying to under cut vendors in their own chats to making fun of his own clients to fit in. Takes 0 accountability for his actions and blames everyone else for being an asshole. I could go on and on about everything else his done but I could guarantee it still wouldn’t get through his skull
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bloke needs a proper think of his actions.
 
GredDoucette11 said:
glad to see you agreeing trumpy u legend
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He tries to poach customers from other vendors, joins their chats and DMs people when they ask about shit. Undercuts the vendors to secure them.

Sells them his own imports and his own shit products.

Forces them onto fucking huge protocols; I would assume to make a buck for himself by selling to his clients.

He uses his disabled clients to steal from the supermarkets, gloated about it in a group chat as though we are scumbags like him and would approve or laugh.

He also lost a tonne of clients and his coaching chat was practically abandoned.

Meanwhile he’s on socials playing the victim of online bullying. It’s wild.

Thankfully we have communities here and over at UGL Talk that don’t condone or permit that type of behaviour.

Men of integrity, not boys of opportunity. Fuck that bloated marshmallow.
 
Hi all.

We were not aware of any of this background when SWCC began logging with us several weeks ago. Appreciate the community sharing their concerns & experiences.

Damn, Demon Throne - now this :ROFLMAO:

Our relationship with SWCC ended approx. 1 week ago.

Thanks all for raising awareness amongst the community.
 
GredDoucette11 said:
Hey boys, i wanted to hop in on the forum and reach out regarding some issues i’ve had and many other people have had regarding my EX coach Swcc @Swcc Coaching, which everyone knows who he is. Just please be aware of who this guy truely is before you sign up with him.



Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself and wanted to take things to next level under guidance of a coach, so i obviously saw Swcc physique and hes knowledge and put my trust into the guy. I wanted to show him i was committed and willing to pay him 52 weeks (1 year) upfront to show him im in this fully.



I was on 150mg test E previously, never upped it, Swcc knew that. I joined up with him, he got me blasting 750 test 350 primo 150npp 100 mast 18iu of HGH, 4iu novorapid. Mind you i’m only on 2.4k calories, low carbs. Instead of increasing my food whenever my weight would stabilise- if it did as i was hella watery and weight kept spiking and spiking, he would just keep pushing my doses higher and higher instead of food.



This cycle was 20 odd weeks. Keep in mind, 0 BLOODS were taken (never requested for them). 0 Blood pressure checks were requested or told me to take them. 0 Blood glucose checks too. That’s on 18iu mind u. With using overdosed HGH which is actually 22iu a day, which he knew.



I didn’t know that what i was doing at the time was wrong and the cycles he put me on was wrong. It wasn’t til the fact, 10 other clients left (in space of 2 days) and made me realise what he was actually doing to my health so i decided myself that i have to pull the pin and leave swcc for the better of me as i knew it was the right thing for me leaving me 20 weeks of payments to be refunded ($1700), which Swcc agreed to refund me on, and he didn’t. Instead he decided to block me on every platform possible.

Swcc is a very terrible person.



I am now thankfully with a new coach, under proper guidance and taking all health protocols seriously. Got bloods done and they weren’t exactly healthy at all, that’s what happens when you sign up with Swcc, you get unhealthy. He does not care about health at all.





Feel free to join in on your experiences in the comments.
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brother.. someone on 150mg test e, never upped it and he puts you on that blast straight away? 100% a red flag, thats reckless escalation with several independent risks stacked together, no regard to safety. Certainly not something a coach should be doing especially for someone that has only been on 150mg test e.

Enormous jump in androgen exposure
Serious cardiovascular strain
The HGH dose is extreme
Rapid insulin without glucose monitoring is the most immediately dangerous part
GH and insulin were pulling glucose control in opposite directions
Escalating usage because scale weight stalled makes no sense
Twenty-plus weeks compounds the exposure
No monitoring is indefensible

I am glad that you have shared your story brother, health should always come first. Guy should be banned
 
This is very concerning to say the least
A coach should be looking after his clients health not playing God with ridiculous doses of peds we really need to take a look at whats going on here
This should be looked at seriously people lives are at stake
@the_alcatraz
@abolone
@pigsy
 
This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems
 
Swcc said:
This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems
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wasn’t even on EQ 🤣 so clearly have no fkn clue what u have your clients on. And actually no, i never said anything about going to 18iu hgh. I just came back from Japan, and you said on the check in, let’s go to 18iu HGH, which your MY COACH, U THROW THE PLAN AT ME, I FOLLOW IT!. Don’t be fucking blaming your clients fuckwit. There’s a reason you’re banned on all forums. Despite what stock i have or not. None of your business dickhead so don’t be playing those games. And who are you lying to. Not a single blood test was taken at all, not a single blood glucose was taken at all, not even a single BP monitoring was requested.
 

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Time and time again you refuse to take accountability. Never done anything wrong but have been banned on forums and vendors chats, you’re pathetic and down right delusional. “My clients never go above one gram” utter garbage. Full of shit loser. Everyone who’s met you, can’t stand you. You do it to yourself and then play victim. Grow up mate, me and so many other clients who were so close to you left you because of your actions and you’re still denying the fact it was you. You’re mentally unwell and one of the most selfish blokes I know.
 
Swcc said:
This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems
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Swcc said:
This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems
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Holy fuck you're gay
 
Swcc said:
This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems
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A man who has done no wrong doesn’t begin their rebuttal with “I’ll reply once, but that’s it.” That’s a man who fears scrutiny, and to that extent, my reply is going to fall on deaf ears.

If it was the case that it was the community who couldn’t accept the truth, then it shouldn’t be the community providing screenshots of the truth. It should be the reverse.

As for having better things to do, what might that be? Your business is online. The reputation you’ve destroyed is online. The medium through which you repair that, assuming you could, is online.

If it was a few people with frivolous complaints, it wouldn’t be taken seriously, but it is a LOT of people with similar stories describing what I and others alluded to earlier.

You know you tried to undercut Alpha and his vendors, and likely others elsewhere.

You know you stole from supermarkets using disabled clients’ wheelchairs.

You know you did everything you’ve been accused of, but you can’t answer to it because to do so would be to admit you fucked up massively and that you lack integrity. You are not a man who can hold himself accountable, that much has been made abundantly clear.

You weren’t going to refund Greg until a third party intervened. How many others have you ripped off?

Instead of trying to gaslight the community, log off, go home, have a cold shower and take a long, sobering look at yourself. The problem is not the community.
 
iDreamofHenry said:
Everyone lies but you, you're reputation and business is finished, you're finished. ill give you a job as my labourer on site, you can come be the site bitch
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Far from it actually, coaching is busier than ever, but thankyou
 
iDreamofHenry said:
😂😂😂😂😂 only if you knew
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Dont care too, more important things going on in my life, but hey if you want to illegally trespass then have at it, smile for the cameras
 
iDreamofHenry said:
You just invited me in writing you dumb cunt, so I will be seeing you soon, just like you said I could
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Invited you to illegally trespass? Bro your fried learn to read, anyways im off, enjoy your night sooky
 
Im fried? Cunt you've scammed your clients, you steal customers from vendors, im gonna bounce your dumb head off the pavement and then I'll post the video for everyone to see ash
 
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