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Dieting and building muscle;can the go together?

st8k_lover

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Since I started cutting by lowering my carbs and total caloric intake, my workouts have struggled greatly. I have been stuck at the same weight on most of my lifts for a couple of weeks and that coincides with my diet. I got on the scale yesterday and was surprised to see I weight 228, up from the 218 in mid Feb.Now I know that some of this is muscle as my wife can see the progress( which is very cool) but the rest..... So today I started the cardio in the morning but I am thinking to up my calories abit, currently I am at about 2200 per day with a 60 pro, 20 carb,20 fat split. I came very close to the CKD but I think limiting my carbs that much will take the wind right of of my workout. Any ideas on how to fuel the workout and burn some fat would be appreciated

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I believe building muscle and losing fat can go together as i've lost a few % of fat but gained LBM but i dont think u can expect to see drastic changes. It's very long term to do both.

If u wanna have quick gains and bulk naturally, i think you'll gain fat too. Vice versa if u cut too quick, you wont gain and might even loose muscle

Just my opinion though
 
You need to be patient concerning not having enough workout energy. It takes 3-4 weeks the first time you go carb depleted for your body to learn to create useable energy from fat.

Can you lose weight and build muscle? Absolutely, I've been on my modified LC diet for 14 months, and so far this year I've lost 36 lbs but am 3.7% stronger, without any kind of supplementation.
 
DAMN! 2200 calories and you gained 10 ibs? I never go below 3000 when cutting and I'm 218 right now. I was up to 245 at the end of my last bulking phase. Was eating around 6000 cals a day. Then again, I cycle my carbs when bulking and do cardio so maybe I can get away with more. Still, I can't even imagine being on 2200.... I'm starving to death on 3K.
Yes, you can gain muscle and loose fat at the same time. I've done it, it just requires an extremely strick diet, cardio, and a really good mass building routine. Tren & hgh make it a bit easier.
 
bodybyfinaplix, your right there with me on the calories and body weight so I have a couple of questions. I'm doing between 2800 and 300 calories right now cutting and I weighed 224 a couple days ago. I've dropped from 230 and this is only my third week dieting. I'm restricting my carb intake to 150 grams a day right now, is that ok or do I need less. I was planning to drop to 100 and then 50 over the next 6 weeks. As I drop my carbs do I need to increase my grams of fat and protein to compensate and keep my calories at the same level or just let the total calories drop? As for gaining muscle while dieting how strict of a diet are you talking about, what are the requirements?
 
Cobra, I got very good results bulking (and gaining very little fat) on a 4 day diet system. The first 3 days I ate very low carbs, around 50 g a day (mostly from veggies and natty pb). 250-300 g of protien. No processed food. I was using a modified hit system at the time (now I'm doing something similar to hst training, but with some changes) so I only hit the weights once every 4 days. I would drop my cals every day. 6k,5k,4k and did cardio every day on low carbs. No processed food, period. Day 4 I would lift, extremely intense but pretty low volume (after about 5 months though hit type training stopped working for me, but I did put on alot of size for awhile). I would shoot for 8k cals. I stuck with very low gi carbs, about 400 grams of protien. I used insulin post workout and drank a gallon of skim along with a scoop of whey before leaving the gym. On this day I did allow myself one cheat meal if I was craving pizza or ice cream. Otherwise it was low gi carbs, lean cuts of meat and alot of efa's (nutts, flaxseed oil, fishoil). It worked pretty well, I put on alot of size this way and only gained about an inch on my waist. Basically used 50mg prop/50mg tren ed with liquidex and humalin-r (only once every 4 days though).

Anyway to your other question on cutting, again pretty similar bro. I'm 8 weeks in though, down to 215 (so 30 ibs). Eating 3000-3200 (so about 200 more than you). I train each bp 3X a week right now (very few sets though), and do cardio 5 nights a week so I might be able to get away with a few more cals. My carbs are around 20 gram some weeks, but upped them to 50-60 a day on my low carb days this week and still dropped 4 ibs, and actually gained a little strength in my tri's and delt's. As far as your cals go, keep them where they are if you are losing. I would slowly cut the carbs down and just replace them with fat cals. For every 2 grams of carbs you remove just add a gram of fat. Preferabley in the form of flaxseed oil or extra virgin olive oil. Honestly, if you want to gain muscle while losing fat I would add a few more cals to what you are taking in. It might slow down the fat gain, but at least you will be gaining lbm. In terms of a strict diet to do this, I mean you need to eat absolutely no processed food, and need to keep close tabs on your micronutrient breakdown. When I say lose bf while gaining muscle I'm talking about very slow chanes though. Meaning you're bodyweight might remain pretty constant, just a very slow change in bodycomposition. But then again, if you are slowly and consistantly gaining muscle while losing bf, you continually look better. Personally I'm getting sick of looking like shit 6 months out of the year. I think it is better to stay lean year round, unless you are a pro and your career depends on you putting on 15 ibs of muscle from one season to the next to move up in the rankings. I mean, for most of us, what is the point once you get pretty big and the gains slow down? Why stuff yourself, gain 50 or 60 ibs to diet down and find that you only gained 6 ibs of lbm after 4 months of bulking and then 12 weeks of starving yourself?
 
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