a month after my tren cycle now...dropped about 10 pounds -12 pounds..strength still there...some reason the fat just has fell off..no cardio in a month but abs are showing more then ever..constantly gettign compliments...had 2 people ask me in same day if i got taller...lolol....tren is a crazy drug and definatly not for the mentally unstable...shit cuts you the fuck up and reshapes your whole body...i eill def use this again very soon!!!