Dianabol

[aquatic_glories]

Yes, I definitely agree with you.

He might have used in high doses, or had less than great diet, maybe training problems , especially GENETIC differences , bodytypes etc....

Right now I wish I could tell you my results but you would think I was just talking BS. It is that good.

However, every single factor is going great for me right now. Diet, Training style , etc...

We can argue this more

 

[aquatic_glories]

I believe GENETICS and PURITY and REALITY of drugs are what makes the difference

 

[Black Boxster]

Something I noticed about almost every single muscle-enhancing element discussed here on EF. One person says, "It's 100% great!! ....Another says, "It totally sucks!!"

How can these reviews be so diametrically opposed?

It is AMAZING how the opinions on even something as basic as Dbol can result in the opposite ends of the spectrum.

I even read in a recent thread that something as basic as "Testosterone" shouldn't be recommended for a first cycle ...yet I read all the time about how it is perfect for a noob.

How can anyone make a decision on what is a good steroid to use when one post slams it and the very next one loves it?

Birdman

First...really great question...I gave you some karma for that!!

IMHO..and I am not an expert.... but I think the primary reason you seen so many variables is because of training diet...alot of people are looking for any easy way out..."if I just take this magic pill I will look like this guy..." But dialing in proper training and diet is the hardest part of the equation. Clean diet, hard proper training, proper rest can make a difference if you have ok results( or no real results!) or great results!

One of the reason I believe so many members here will tell you to wait for awhile before you even try gear is to see what your are capable of doing naturally with proper training. Are you keeping a training log? a food log? If anybody answers no to the above questions they shouldn't even try gear...look for gains in strength every workout..check BF levels at least twice monthly to adjust your training and diet...get dialed in...

The bro's here are the best!!..... You want great advice on training, diet and gear, you've come to the right place!!.

 

[ryno9000]

I'm sorry, I'm not flaming, but I don't think that is a good question. And I definatly do not think testosterone should be considered "basic."

What is a "good" steroid is as subjective as a "good" band or "good" movie. There are so many elements that can go into it, and you need to decide what is "good" for you based on your
1)experience
2)goals
3)knowledge/research of what that chemical DOES, not what someone says it does.

-not necessarily in that order either.

 

[galaxy]

Arent all other steroids just different versions of test tho? Like a molecular or two tweaked here and there? I dont think it gets any more basic than some good ole test squeezed from some bulls testicles.lol

 

[got2getripped]

Something I noticed about almost every single muscle-enhancing element discussed here on EF. One person says, "It's 100% great!! ....Another says, "It totally sucks!!"

How can these reviews be so diametrically opposed?

It is AMAZING how the opinions on even something as basic as Dbol can result in the opposite ends of the spectrum.

I even read in a recent thread that something as basic as "Testosterone" shouldn't be recommended for a first cycle ...yet I read all the time about how it is perfect for a noob.

How can anyone make a decision on what is a good steroid to use when one post slams it and the very next one loves it?

Birdman

Well I don't agree with the notions of many, I can say that when your ready, go in with both feet. Know what your getting into and be prepared for whatever consequences or sides may come. Afterall it is your body not anyone elses.

YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!

That may include making yourself a guinea pig, cause thats what it comes down to.

 

[cobracock1979]

Am Incorrect in thinking that DBol bloat is soley down to massively increased Estrogen levels? Therefore the correct dose of AI should eliminate this?

Anyway, Im on my first DBol cycle (just upped to 30mg a day) - been on for 10 days an liking it. Im leaning out

 

[housemusik83]

Something I noticed about almost every single muscle-enhancing element discussed here on EF. One person says, "It's 100% great!! ....Another says, "It totally sucks!!"

How can these reviews be so diametrically opposed?

It is AMAZING how the opinions on even something as basic as Dbol can result in the opposite ends of the spectrum.

I even read in a recent thread that something as basic as "Testosterone" shouldn't be recommended for a first cycle ...yet I read all the time about how it is perfect for a noob.

How can anyone make a decision on what is a good steroid to use when one post slams it and the very next one loves it?

Birdman

Well that is because every body has different experiences and drugs has different effects on different bodies... that is why someone might say DBOL is the best oral because for them it might just be the best but for someone else that has had different experiences with DBOL might state a different opinion.

 

[EPROM]

Well that is because every body has different experiences and drugs has different effects on different bodies... that is why someone might say DBOL is the best oral because for them it might just be the best but for someone else that has had different experiences with DBOL might state a different opinion.

I'm a gun collector. On gun forums people might discuss their favorite handguns. It is understood that Glock, Beretta, and H&K make outstanding handguns. Some may comment that they like one more than another ....but you don't see, "Glocks totally suck!" followed directly with "Glocks are the greatest of all!".

Last football season you may have not personally liked the New England Patriots, but it was clearly understood that they were an outstanding football team. Nobody could write "The Patriots are the worst!

Some Americans my hate foreign car companies (like Honda) ...but you would be hard pressed to find someone writing that the Honda Civic is a piece of crap and not worth the money.

...but regarding steroids and supplements, there doesn't seem to be an understood standard on what is a good, basic, solid steroid structure that the overwhelming majority can agree is, ...well, ... "Good!".

It's like every single steroid is the "worst possible choice" or the "best of the bunch". Can't the majority on this forum agree to a standard or basic steroid plan that is considered a good universal cycle? True, we noobs can do our own research, but you walk away each day with the same miss-match on what is good or bad.

Birdman

P.S. The New PCT Therapy sticky on the PCT forum was excellent. It is something that most of you seem to agree upon and I can NOW actually (((ORDER))) something for PCT based on a consensus!

 

[galaxy]

Am Incorrect in thinking that DBol bloat is soley down to massively increased Estrogen levels? Therefore the correct dose of AI should eliminate this?

Anyway, Im on my first DBol cycle (just upped to 30mg a day) - been on for 10 days an liking it. Im leaning out

I lean out on dbol also.