Dbol Test- e cycle, loose skin

[tosexxx]

Hi guys,

I would like your opinion and best injecting techniques for my 12 week test- e and Dianabol cycle,

I`m 22 years old, have been training for about a year and a half and the only reason im even considering doing a cycle is to fill my loose skin. Basicly i lost a lot of weight 5 years ago and i have a very flabby skin around my chest, abs and arms.

Before even starting with training i looked absolutely grotesque a walking mass of skin, now after year and a half my chest and arms are getting very tight and the skin is starting to be filed with muscle.

Before cycle max weight lifted:

Bench press: 100kg x 3reps
Squat: 160 kg
Shoulder press: 60 kg
My cycle is the following:
1-12 weeks Test-E 500 mg/week
1-5 weeks 25mg/day

Supplements:
Bodytech Whey Tech Pro Isolate Vanilla, best tasting protein power out there.

PCT:
Liv-52 for liver protectin
Nolvadex


I will be following the Dorien Yates training program from bodybuiliding[.]com with one added day of arms training from the Kai Green Arm training video.
bodybuilding[.]com/fun/dorian-yates-blood-guts-6-week-trainer
youtube[.]com/watch?v=XYmVP74CLFw

Monday: Chest and Biceps
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday: Delts and Triceps
Thursday: Rest day
Friday: Biceps, Triceps and Forearms(my arms are my weekest part so im training them twice a week)
Saturday: Legs
Sunday: rest day/cardio


I currently weigh at 85 kg and my height is 1.83 cm, i cant determine by body fat percentage due to a my loose skin problem.

I will be trying to eat around 3500 - 4000 calories per day with about 150-200 grams of protein per day which will be mostly chicken, egg and fish with 60 grams coming from protein power.

Now one final stupid question:

I was trying to do my first shot into my quad half an hour before posting this and i accidentally had filled my syringe with a very large bubble of air and i wasted most of the juice in the syringe trying to get the air out.
I didnt injected and insted wanted to ask u for the best injecting techniques u guys use.

Sorry for my poor english.

 

[NoFatChicks91]

You better raise your flame shield bubba

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[RickRock13]

I dont think you should be cycling quite yet at your age. You are very young and inexperienced and it sounds like you haven't done enough research. You have no AI or support supplement listed on cycle. You should be using Forma or aromasin for estrogen control, HCGenerate to minimize shutdown, and N2guard the whole cycle.

The PCT you listed is inadequate for recovery also. Your PCT should be extensive and look something more like this


Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Formastanozol 5 pumps twice daily (MR Supps)
Test Stack 17 or PHYTOSERMS (see link below for info and discounts)
Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html

 

[stevesmi]

good job on losing the weight but you do not have a base to be touching steroids.. build some muscle mass now and keep eating clean and good things will happen. check my signature for some natty help

 

[tosexxx]

Thx for the advice, the PCT u listed is almost double the cost of my cycle. But i will have an AI on hand if there are signs of gyno. Also my old friend Tribulus will get the job done quite well to jumpstart my test levels.

Also should i use a Mass gainer in my cycle, im not realy interested in getting lean muscle mass, instead im aiming for size to fill this skin.
Sometimes in life u have to take a leap of faith.

 

[Lou Super Man 123]

Thx for the advice, the PCT u listed is almost double the cost of my cycle. But i will have an AI on hand if there are signs of gyno. Also my old friend Tribulus will get the job done quite well to jumpstart my test levels.

Also should i use a Mass gainer in my cycle, im not realy interested in getting lean muscle mass, instead im aiming for size to fill this skin.
Sometimes in life u have to take a leap of faith.

Be sure to make your body produce Testosterone, LH and FSH. Use bloodworks to prove that your PCT lead you to where you were before your cycle.
That's it.
As for the mass gainer, if you spend less money with it than eating the same macros with food then yeah, do it, if you don't then there is no point.
Use your money in a intelligent way.

 

[gymrat827]

Thx for the advice, the PCT u listed is almost double the cost of my cycle. But i will have an AI on hand if there are signs of gyno. Also my old friend Tribulus will get the job done quite well to jumpstart my test levels.

Also should i use a Mass gainer in my cycle, im not realy interested in getting lean muscle mass, instead im aiming for size to fill this skin.
Sometimes in life u have to take a leap of faith.

if your counting on nolva + tribulus your in for bad times ahead.

The list of supps/chems is pricey, yes, but needed. So pickup most of them, or drop your plan to cycle testosterone......you dont do all of this on a budget, you get what you need.


Or you can ride it out as planned and see what happens. Id be on a high dose of the AI the whole time, to be safe. Id really be on "gyno watch" to make sure that doesnt creep up on ya, if so you will be much more worried about your nips/tit growth.



I dont get it tho, you post a ? on a fitness fourm for advice, you get the advice as your questions were answered but dont want to follow any of it?? why post in the 1st place??

 

[tosexxx]

Off course i want to follow every advice there is, because unlike me most of u had done cycles before and have valuable experience to share.
When i want to the local pharmacist to inquire about the price of the pct listed, i just could not afford it.
As for the blood works, i forgot to do them. But i scheduled with my doctor and this Friday i will do the test, the problem is already had 2 injections of test and a week on dbol so the results may be a bit high but still better late than never.

Also what are the first signs of gyno, i mean before your nipples start sweeling. Do u have any other pre warning signs?