Yeah bro I promise ya the are speakin the truth about dbol. I made the mistake when I was young and invincible... at least in my dumb head, of runnin it 3 months cause I was seein no sides. I almost ruined my stomach or maybe liver was causin some as well. But I think I got an ulcer and angered my liver. I couldnt hardly eat for weeks after. So any progress I made was ruined in the end cause I couldn't eat enough to support the muscle mass. Trust me its not worth it.