critique this please (im a newbie

[juiceddreadlocks]

May I ask what your age is? No offense, just curious. But I would add test, maybe 400 or 500mg enanthate per week, weeks 1-10. With the test I'd also use arimidex .25mg ed and HCG at mid cycle (500iu ed for 2 weeks) and then again at the end (500iu ed for 3 weeks). I would not worry so much about getting on poundage, just work hard, eat clean and get enough rest and that'll be the best you could do.

im 20, and this would be my second cycle, although i really didnt know what i was doing for the first one, i did 50mg tren ED and 50 mg ED winny in divided doses, it didnt shut me down at all and i didnt get gyno so im pumped about doing another cycle. (I've been lifting heavily since age 15 but i didnt know a lick about nutrition until about a year ago).
How expensive is "HCG"

and by the way, nice signature, bro thats good stuff, my motto for training, well for anything is Colossians 3:23 : whatever you do work at it with all your heart as working for the lord and not for man.

 

[40butpumpin]

im 20, and this would be my second cycle, although i really didnt know what i was doing for the first one, i did 50mg tren ED and 50 mg ED winny in divided doses, it didnt shut me down at all and i didnt get gyno so im pumped about doing another cycle. (I've been lifting heavily since age 15 but i didnt know a lick about nutrition until about a year ago).
How expensive is "HCG"

and by the way, nice signature, bro thats good stuff, my motto for training, well for anything is Colossians 3:23 : whatever you do work at it with all your heart as working for the lord and not for man.

Oh yes, "And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men" - Colossians 3:23

Thanks brother.

20 eh? Pretty young brother, you just don't want to put your body's natural production in hybernation.

Deca w/o test may not be a bad idea after all. Just be careful. Just because tren worked out for you doesn't mean you won't have problems with deca. Deca for some is like liquid gold and for others it's just bottled gyno. But as Canuck4's already said, start the dbol and deca, as well as the test if you decide to use it, all from week 1. The durations all look good though.

HCG isn't expensive as far as I'm concerned. You only need 1 kit (which is usually 10,000iu) for a cycle, unless it's a heavy, long test cycle. In that case you'd want it at both mid and end of cycle. One kit, or 10,000iu, usually goes for around $35.

Good luck brother, please keep in touch and let me know how you make out.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

I appreciate all the advice bros but i also need to know what to cut up with (or just eat less and do more cardio with)

I would like to stay away from the thyroxin, but ive got prop, winny, and tren so how should i cycle that?

here's what i am now...

6'1''
205
11-12% bf
I really like to run to, and as i found out last time its a whole lot harder to run at 215 than at 193...

any suggestions for the tren-prop-winny (clen maybe) Im not sure about dosages or time frame either

40 Im going to take your advice and not do the test also, yeah i hear lots of good things and bad things about deca but im going to go for it...
(its not a mullet but close enough)

 

[40butpumpin]

If you're set on tren/prop then...

tren 50mg ed wks 1-5
prop 100mg eod wks 1-10

forget winny, it'll throw your cholesterol into a tailspin and scare the life out of your doctor. lol How about var 50mg ed for weeks 6-10. That's my opinion anyway.

 

[SlimeyPete]

seems like the appropiate thread....

I am doing my first cycle, no injections, oral only....and probably just D-bol with no anti-estrogen....which leads to my question...10mb/day of dbol on a 2000 calorie ketogenic diet......will I grow tits, lose my hair, and sprout a vagina?

 

[benchpressr23]

Bro start a new thread if you have a question. When you work off these old ones it screws with the pecking order of the board. I ANSWERED THIS THREAD 12 DAYS AGO