Critique this cycle please

[diesel69]

Hi all and thx for any info
This is my First post on this sight so i hope it works. Going into 3rd Cycle. Need some tweeking i believe:

First let me say i'm trying to keep water retention to a min. and want to gain Quality mass with as little fat as possable.(and i don't mind shots daily). no D-bol,Anadrol, or water retention AA's pls.
Stats:
Male
weight= 185
Hight= 5'10"
BF%= aprox 11%-Caliper test myself. Wrestling 15 years experience so i've done it alot should be pretty accurate.
Age= 35

Cycle info:

Equipose @ 500mg per weeks 1-12
Test Sust @ 500mg per week 1-12
Tren Ace @ 100mg eod weeks 5-12
Test prop @ 50-75mg ed weeks 13-15
Will have Nolvadex on hand entire time to control sides if they occure.
Taking the standard milk thisil, cranberrry etc.. in my diet.

PCT:
Nolvadex starting 1st week after last AA injection @ 20mg a day for 6 weeks.
HCG Starting 1st week after last AA. Injected IM @ 1000ui on Mon,Wed,Fri for 3 weeks.

I appriciate any and all info. and THX guys

Diesel69

 

[slat1]

I would probably use HCG in the middle of that cycle too.

 

[diesel69]

I would probably use HCG in the middle of that cycle too.

Hmmm will research. Do you reccomend a doseage during cycle ie 500ui eod?
I will look up, but would appriciate some pro's input. thx

 

[ruggermu]

Looks solid, but if it were me I qwould add something to get it going at the beginning. TBol or prop fot the first 4 weeks

 

[Slyder190]

Hi all and thx for any info
This is my First post on this sight so i hope it works. Going into 3rd Cycle. Need some tweeking i believe:

First let me say i'm trying to keep water retention to a min. and want to gain Quality mass with as little fat as possable.(and i don't mind shots daily). no D-bol,Anadrol, or water retention AA's pls.
Stats:
Male
weight= 185
Hight= 5'10"
BF%= aprox 11%-Caliper test myself. Wrestling 15 years experience so i've done it alot should be pretty accurate.
Age= 35

Cycle info:

Equipose @ 500mg per weeks 1-12
Test Sust @ 500mg per week 1-12
Tren Ace @ 100mg eod weeks 5-12
Test prop @ 50-75mg ed weeks 13-15
Will have Nolvadex on hand entire time to control sides if they occure.
Taking the standard milk thisil, cranberrry etc.. in my diet.

PCT:
Nolvadex starting 1st week after last AA injection @ 20mg a day for 6 weeks.
HCG Starting 1st week after last AA. Injected IM @ 1000ui on Mon,Wed,Fri for 3 weeks.

I appriciate any and all info. and THX guys

Diesel69

First of all, props to you, as your cycle is very well planned out. A lil long, but well planned. As far as the actual cycle, I might run the Tren @50mg/day for more consistent blood levels. 75mg/day was nice for me.

Now as far as PCT, I'd run Nolva and Clomid for 4 week starting 3 days after last Prop inject. I'd start Nolva at 80mg the first day or 2 and then 60mg/day till for another 2 weeks, and then 40mg/day the final two week. Clomid I'd start at 300mg for day 1, 200 mg for day 2, then 100mg day for two weeks followed by 50 mg/day for the final 2 weeks. I'd use HCG 2x a week at 500ius during weeks 12-14, and then EC at 500ius the final week, up until 2-3 days before you axtual PCT would begin.

Also throw in some A-dex @1mg EOD during the cycle. You could use Femara or Aromasin instead as well.

I'd suck it up and add some D-bol for the first 4-5 weeks, but that's just me. I like a quick jump start myself.

Let us know how this one turns out.

 

[diesel69]

Slyder190
Thanks for the great info bro. Much appriciated!

 

[paridhm]

I'd throw some hcg in weeks 7 - 9 @ 1500 I.U.
There is nothing wrong with taking the prop at the end, but it won't accomplish much. I know you're just trying to get more test in as the sust esters clear.

 

[black sheep]

I'd throw some hcg in weeks 7 - 9 @ 1500 I.U.
There is nothing wrong with taking the prop at the end, but it won't accomplish much. I know you're just trying to get more test in as the sust esters clear.

Actually - Taking Prop at the end like that will help with his recovery from the tren.

That is a good cycle - well thought out. You could throw in some HCG in 7-9 at 1500iu's MWF. You could also throw in CLomid with your PCT

 

[diesel69]

Hey guys
Just a quick update.

1st-I've been reseaching HCG in midle of cycle... can't hurt so thinking i will. Truely appriciate the heads up guys THX

2nd- I'm really leaning to a Test Prop. addition for first 3-4 weeks to to jump start this cycle. Original though was the Test Prop. in Sust would be enough, but after careful reconsideration i figuer i'll chuck in a few low does of Prop to get me rolling.

Question #1: Can i mix Test's and Tren in same siringe when i start the Tren. later in cycle to save me the sticks? In all the research i've done in all these years, i don't think I ever remember someone mentioning it????

Oh ya Blacksheep thanks for the advice on the Clomid, but PCT reasearch that i've done and all current research out there(last 2years or so) warns of the sides of Clomid VS Nolvadex and it's tendency to actually hurt LH level and prolong recovery. I know it's been the staple PCT drug and is a favorite of many (so i'm probably going to get bashed for the statment!) I truely believe Clomid is old school, it has it's place, but it's old school! Nolva is hands down a safer and more effective estrogen inhibiter and less sides, and cheaper, and has better LH recovery attributes, and i'll let the research do the talking lol (this is not to say it's not a great drug, or it doesn't work, cuz we all know it does, it's just a heads up, but i'm sure you know all this too hehe.) Thx bro and good luck and may your next cycle destroy the gym lol

 

[Slyder190]

Actually - Taking Prop at the end like that will help with his recovery from the tren.

That is a good cycle - well thought out. You could throw in some HCG in 7-9 at 1500iu's MWF. You could also throw in CLomid with your PCT

Yeah, the Prop at the end is a very good idea.