Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare 2

[redsamurai]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

I remember comparison shots of far cry 2 running on both the ps3 and 360, they looked identical and in fact one scene the 360 looked better.....like alot better. If I remember correctly the 360 has the better GPU so in a game like far cry it would make sense the 360 might look a bit better.

And yeah, so far from what I've seen the new warfare looks better than killzone. Maybe they were showing it running on a good pc, I don't put that past the game makers. So we'll see when this comes out they'll have comparison shots of the two systems.

 

[Captain FT]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

I remember comparison shots of far cry 2 running on both the ps3 and 360, they looked identical and in fact one scene the 360 looked better.....like alot better. If I remember correctly the 360 has the better GPU so in a game like far cry it would make sense the 360 might look a bit better.

And yeah, so far from what I've seen the new warfare looks better than killzone. Maybe they were showing it running on a good pc, I don't put that past the game makers. So we'll see when this comes out they'll have comparison shots of the two systems.

I believe the hardware in the PS3 is in every way better than the 360. I believe the issue is the programmers having a learning curve in how to take advantage of the PS3''s capabilities.

When the 360 came out the coding and programming was very similar to that of desktop PC (if not identical) so software production had a very short learning curve. The 360's development kits were integrated easily

The PS3 on the other hand requires software publishers to buy the PS3 development kits which were very expensive. They also had a bigger learning curve for programmers. As with all systems, as time goes on programmers are able to squeeze better graphics out of the same hardware on the system. its not that the hardware got better its the coding/coders now know how to take advantage of programming language being used by the system and how the hardware interprets it.

You will notice cross platform games will look great on PC and 360 and decent on PS3. PS3 specific game development can and will look amazing (Killzone 2 and Gran Turismo 5 for example) and far surpass what you normally see on the 360.


Makes sense?

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

I believe the hardware in the PS3 is in every way better than the 360. I believe the issue is the programmers having a learning curve in how to take advantage of the PS3''s capabilities.

When the 360 came out the coding and programming was very similar to that of desktop PC (if not identical) so software production had a very short learning curve. The 360's development kits were integrated easily

The PS3 on the other hand requires software publishers to buy the PS3 development kits which were very expensive. They also had a bigger learning curve for programmers. As with all systems, as time goes on programmers are able to squeeze better graphics out of the same hardware on the system. its not that the hardware got better its the coding/coders now know how to take advantage of programming language being used by the system and how the hardware interprets it.

You will notice cross platform games will look great on PC and 360 and decent on PS3. PS3 specific game development can and will look amazing (Killzone 2 and Gran Turismo 5 for example) and far surpass what you normally see on the 360.


Makes sense?

I agree. Modern Warfare 2 may look better "aesthetically", but it is no match for Killzone 2 seen side by side in motion. Killzone 2 is like interactive cinema with how much detail is put into the levels, whereas Modern Warfare, while sporting some awesome looking settings, still looks kinda static and makeshift as far as environments and effects. I doubt many reviewers will end up saying it raises any bars graphically, like they have been for Uncharted 2, another PS3 exclusive.

 

[redsamurai]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

Have I missed a killzone trailer that clears this all up? It was good looking mind you, but "cinematic"?? C'mon Hansel.....now I want you, when they become available, to post side by side vids of Killzone and warfare to prove this postulate of yours.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

Have I missed a killzone trailer that clears this all up? It was good looking mind you, but "cinematic"?? C'mon Hansel.....now I want you, when they become available, to post side by side vids of Killzone and warfare to prove this postulate of yours.

I should get one of those gameplay recorders. Got a PS3 Slim this weekend with Killzone 2 (God of War 3 is still a long wait, said screw it), also dl'd the Uncharted 2 beta. I'll see if I can get some decent footage of Kz2 off my tv. My camera records dvd quality at 20 fps so we'll see. I already got some nice pics of Uncharted 2 from the replay editor, I'll upload some of those tomorrow. Graphic wise nothing else on a console touches that game, even just from multiplayer environments. Of course, it's not the same thing as an fps where frames have to be rendered much faster, but I was still impressed, such a clean looking game.

Killzone 2, I'll admit has some sketchy textures, especially character models and some objects, and I've watched those videos many times but playing that opening scene was pretty fucking riveting. There's more lighting going on in that game than Crysis and Half Life 2 combined, all in the middle of a full scale ground battle.

I'll see what I can throw together tomorrow. About the comparison vid, well I'd get the PC version of Modern Warfare 2 if I got it, but maybe there's an HD gameplay video out there for the time being.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

These images are 720p so of course they look worse on a PC monitor (I especially noticed the aliasing) but back a few feet away to get a better idea of how they look on an HD TV, and keep in mind this is just from the multiplayer beta-

Playing just the mp beta I can see why people are saying it's the best looking game on a console as of now. If you disagree feel free to post pics of whatever you think tops it.

I'm going to see what I can do with some Killzone 2 footage a bit later on.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

The latest Modern Warfare 2 footage-

Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Video Game, GTTV Extended Cut: Vince Zampella Interview HD | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com

I doubt I'll get this game any time soon. It looks fun but not a whole lot different from the first.

 

[redsamurai]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

I'm assuming those screenshots are uncharted?

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

I'm assuming those screenshots are uncharted?

Yeah, but I got a 17 minute clip of Killzone 2 last night, gotta find somewhere to host it/upload it to. Maybe Megaupload since they can host big files. It's 2 gigs uncompressed avi but should be able to get it to a few hundred megs converted to wmv without losing too much quality. I want to get a couple more levels recorded too. This one had very little as far as lighting/destructible environments.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Re: Critically acclaimed Uncharted 2 will lose out game of the year to Modern Warfare

Ok this is from my camera at 640x480/20 fps, not the greatest but it should at least give you an idea of what I meant by "interactive cinema"-




You may still disagree with it being the best looking shooter on a console but if so, show me another game that looks that good in motion.
One noteable example of the attention to detail in this game is at 1:50 in the first clip, the volumetric smoke disturbance as the air transport flies through.

More later on destructible environments and lighting.