Coming off gear. First time in 4 years

[Judo Tom]

Good Luck. It can be done.. everyone is different but it is possible to recover with the right diet, lifestyle and chems

 

[stevesmi]

4 Yrs on that? you may as well been a Priest!

You're gonna need an agressive PCT

HCGenerate
Unleashed
Forma Stanazol
Phyroserms 347
Clomid ain't gonna cut it!

Even after that you may need another one to run.

this and kickstart it with HMG and HCG. start out with low doses and ramp it up before you start your PCT which should be long and low dosed.

not much else to add cause there aren't many guys who can boast they were on 4 years then came off. i remember a guy on here who was on for 15 some years and came off, it didn't turn out well last i heard.

 

[Gearjunkie]

Any views on using Triptorelin???

 

[Nelson Montana]

I pretty much agree with RADAR and Steve. You'll need real HCG at this point. W so long your e production may actually be supressed. Then use Phytosrems and double dosing of UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE non stop for as long as it takes. (I'm guessing at least 3 months).

 

[stevesmi]

Any views on using Triptorelin???

whatever you use for PCT just make sure you keep the doses low and spread it out for a while. don't forget the natty supps, radar outlined a great stack above that will make you feel better. and please please please do us all a favor and get blood work done and post them on here. i am curious to see what happens.

i think you can do it man, but it will take a lot of patience.

 

[Gearjunkie]

I go get my blood work done before and after pct and will post it here

 

[Zyglamail]

Never even done juce yet. I feel for you bro. hope you balls come back

Use HCG/HMG during the cycle and they wont leave in the first place.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ exactly and better yet use hcgenerate and save money and not have to worry about mixing and storage

 

[Nelson Montana]

I pretty much agree with RADAR and Steve. You'll need real HCG at this point. W so long your e production may actually be supressed. Then use Phytosrems and double dosing of UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE non stop for as long as it takes. (I'm guessing at least 3 months).

What got messed up in that text is that ESTROGEN may actually be suppressed after a long cycle. Get your blood work done in order to treat that condition.



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[Gearjunkie]

What got messed up in that text is that ESTROGEN may actually be suppressed after a long cycle. Get your blood work done in order to treat that condition.



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I think you are right. My estrogen levels may be suppressed. From last 1 year I got no libido n can't get proper erection

Is there anything you could use during the cycle in general to maintain positive estrogen balance