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Coming off gear. First time in 4 years

Gearjunkie

Gearjunkie

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So finally I decided to give it a break after 4 years of juicing.

I'm going off my for a good 6months to shock my system loose some size n then get back on it.

Using trip n clomids for pct
And ghrp2 n cjc peptides for recovery.
 
HCG, HMG, Aromasin, all the other herbal stuff.

You're not gonna recover off just clomid bro
 
UA_Iron said:
HCG, HMG, Aromasin, all the other herbal stuff.

You're not gonna recover off just clomid bro
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this^^^

and most likely, after being on for 4 years, you most likely wont even be fully recovered 6 months down the road once you decide to jump back on again.

you need a very aggressive pct. Shouldnt even be called a pct after 4 years on.

good luck with recovery. my guess is its gonna be a very bumpy ride. Try not to get depressed once you drop the sauce
 
you should get bloods done before and after here....might as well just go on trt at this point, I'm getting depressed just thinking about being you right now lol
 
Triptorelin did wonders for my friend. He was on for about 2 years straight. Recovered fully in a few months (1 dose triptorelin, arimidex, aspartic acid, clomid, heavy workouts and a high sat. fat diet :D ) I never believed he would make it cuz he was juicing really hard
 
masochist said:
Triptorelin did wonders for my friend. He was on for about 2 years straight. Recovered fully in a few months (1 dose triptorelin, arimidex, aspartic acid, clomid, heavy workouts and a high sat. fat diet :D ) I never believed he would make it cuz he was juicing really hard
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Ive heard really good things about trip. Im just curious to use it hay. Or I wouldve stayed on.

One of me mate used it After juicy for 7years straight. He recovered pretty good.

Just wondering if any one else used trip for pct
 
Just curious... Why would you want to stay on that long??? What are the benefits/downsides compared to a 1, 4, 6, even 12 month cycle?
 
Just so we all know.....testicular size is not a guarantee that your recovered.

get bloodwork done. get that LH up.

I would look into running some gnrh. looks promising and may be beneficial

gnrh tells the pituitary gland to produce and secrete LH and FSH. LH tells the testes to synthesize and release testosterone and FSH tells the testes to produce sperm.
 
wcjcMr.O said:
Just so we all know.....testicular size is not a guarantee that your recovered.

get bloodwork done. get that LH up.

I would look into running some gnrh. looks promising and may be beneficial

gnrh tells the pituitary gland to produce and secrete LH and FSH. LH tells the testes to synthesize and release testosterone and FSH tells the testes to produce sperm.
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That's what I said Iam gana use to kick start my hpta.

Triptorelin = gnrh
 
JewishViking said:
Just curious... Why would you want to stay on that long??? What are the benefits/downsides compared to a 1, 4, 6, even 12 month cycle?
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Well it all depends on your goal. In last 4 years I've transformed my body completely.

I've competed twice so far in body building n fitness comp.

If you have made your mind to be a bodybuilder n do it professionally you have to stay on to hold on to your gains so you can be better every year.
 
clomid will make you feel worse than hairy sweaty moose balls in your mouth.
 
chesty said:
clomid will make you feel worse than hairy sweaty moose balls in your mouth.
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depends on the person man.

I ran clomid at 25mg/day after my last cycle and had zero sides. I felt fuckin awesome and my balls pumped up nice with some rhino loads. :evil:

Granted, most people run clomid alot higher. But those are usually the people with the emotional sides.

I think 50mg/day or less and you should be fine.

but who knows. Im only speaking from personal use and every BODY is different.
 
Gearjunkie said:
Well it all depends on your goal. In last 4 years I've transformed my body completely.

I've competed twice so far in body building n fitness comp.

If you have made your mind to be a bodybuilder n do it professionally you have to stay on to hold on to your gains so you can be better every year.
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Did you feel like the steroids and compounds effectiveness slowly depleted or ur body got used to it at all?
 
JewishViking said:
Did you feel like the steroids and compounds effectiveness slowly depleted or ur body got used to it at all?
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I was doing 8 week blast and 12weeks cruse.

I guess so u never get the same result.

But it doesn't matter if you stay on or cycle you body slowly get used to it and the effectiveness of the deplete.

I have to admit out all the gears test is my all time favorite
 
UA_Iron said:
You have to continually increase dosing or change out compounds for the best effects.
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Not agree.
That's why you supposed to blast n cruise.
And if you cruise for long time n hit the blast after u will see some impressive gains.

I only swap between 3 compounds.
Test, deca and tren.
 
Gearjunkie said:
Not agree.
That's why you supposed to blast n cruise.
And if you cruise for long time n hit the blast after u will see some impressive gains.

I only swap between 3 compounds.
Test, deca and tren.
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4 Yrs on that? you may as well been a Priest!

You're gonna need an agressive PCT

HCGenerate
Unleashed
Forma Stanazol
Phyroserms 347
Clomid ain't gonna cut it!

Even after that you may need another one to run.
 
Good Luck. It can be done.. everyone is different but it is possible to recover with the right diet, lifestyle and chems
 
RADAR said:
4 Yrs on that? you may as well been a Priest!

You're gonna need an agressive PCT

HCGenerate
Unleashed
Forma Stanazol
Phyroserms 347
Clomid ain't gonna cut it!

Even after that you may need another one to run.
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this and kickstart it with HMG and HCG. start out with low doses and ramp it up before you start your PCT which should be long and low dosed.

not much else to add cause there aren't many guys who can boast they were on 4 years then came off. i remember a guy on here who was on for 15 some years and came off, it didn't turn out well last i heard.
 
I pretty much agree with RADAR and Steve. You'll need real HCG at this point. W so long your e production may actually be supressed. Then use Phytosrems and double dosing of UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE non stop for as long as it takes. (I'm guessing at least 3 months).
 
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Gearjunkie said:
Any views on using Triptorelin???
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whatever you use for PCT just make sure you keep the doses low and spread it out for a while. don't forget the natty supps, radar outlined a great stack above that will make you feel better. and please please please do us all a favor and get blood work done and post them on here. i am curious to see what happens.

i think you can do it man, but it will take a lot of patience.
 
browngear said:
Never even done juce yet. I feel for you bro. hope you balls come back
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Use HCG/HMG during the cycle and they wont leave in the first place.
 
Nelson Montana said:
I pretty much agree with RADAR and Steve. You'll need real HCG at this point. W so long your e production may actually be supressed. Then use Phytosrems and double dosing of UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE non stop for as long as it takes. (I'm guessing at least 3 months).
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What got messed up in that text is that ESTROGEN may actually be suppressed after a long cycle. Get your blood work done in order to treat that condition.



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Nelson Montana said:
What got messed up in that text is that ESTROGEN may actually be suppressed after a long cycle. Get your blood work done in order to treat that condition.



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I think you are right. My estrogen levels may be suppressed. From last 1 year I got no libido n can't get proper erection

Is there anything you could use during the cycle in general to maintain positive estrogen balance
 
What doses were you running for your blasts and cruises. Some bros think 500mg wk is cruising. I commend you for at least blasting and cruising though.


I did a blast and cruise for a year basically and It took me 6-8 mos to recover fully. 600mg wk blast and 125-150mg wk cruise.
 
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Bro I was on for a good part of two years and took me over 7 months to recover, even got prescribed hrt. So Make sure your PCT is ON POINT. I wanted to die and had zero sex drive, lost a girlfriend, got into a motorcycle accident all during early recovery. SUCKED haven't cycled in 2+ years and now im starting again . But goodluck ! Really!
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
What doses were you running for your blasts and cruises. Some bros think 500mg wk is cruising. I commend you for at least blasting and cruising though.


I did a blast and cruise for a year basically and It took me 6-8 mos to recover fully. 600mg wk blast and 125-150mg wk cruise.
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1 Blast 500mg test 500mg tren
Cruise 250mg test

2 blast 500mg test 500mg deca
Cruise 250mg test

I use to swap between these two
 
LiquidPhire said:
Bro I was on for a good part of two years and took me over 7 months to recover, even got prescribed hrt. So Make sure your PCT is ON POINT. I wanted to die and had zero sex drive, lost a girlfriend, got into a motorcycle accident all during early recovery. SUCKED haven't cycled in 2+ years and now im starting again . But goodluck ! Really!
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What bout your gains? Did you keep any of your gains when you came off?
 
Gearjunkie said:
1 Blast 500mg test 500mg tren
Cruise 250mg test

2 blast 500mg test 500mg deca
Cruise 250mg test

I use to swap between these two
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I personally think your cruise dose was about 100 mg too high bit that's only my opinion and besides its ancient history. You never got way out of hand with anything so that's good.
Your keys to recovery are going to be keeping your training intense. Your going to want to back off the volume some because wihout the aas to support it your body will easily overtrain. Your going to want to get lots of blood work to monitor levels.
I would absolutely get a bunch of unleashed because it works. Hcg or hcgenerate. HMG would be a huge huge help. At least 5 doses probably. Aromasin or adex is going to be a must. Keeping the diet strict and getting an assload of protein will be a key factor. Peptides would help a TON. Ghrp-2 also stack it with cjc-1295 w/o dac if you want.
If your wanting to keep your gains its going to be alot of work.
This is the time where its going to be easy to become a fat lazy slob. I know, I've been there.

I have a bro that had to come off after 3 years, granted it was an injury but be went from 330 lb at about 15% (yes really) to about 250 lb. My point is its way easier to lose than OT is to gain.
If I were a betting man I would say 6-8 mos with a very very involved and aggresive pct. But even so I would wager it will still take a year for you to feel completely normal.
Best of luck to you.
 
Ok I told my doctor about me taking steroids from last 4 years and would like to come off completely.

I was expecting some sympathy from him and was expecting him to prescribe me hcg treatment to start with.

But the useless crapy doctor told me he can't do anything and all I have to do I wait and monitor my blood levels and I will recover slowly back to normal. He reckons if you are under 30s your body natural ability to recover is really good.
 
Gearjunkie said:
So finally I decided to give it a break after 4 years of juicing.

I'm going off my for a good 6months to shock my system loose some size n then get back on it.

Using trip n clomids for pct
And ghrp2 n cjc peptides for recovery.
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It's definitely worth consulting a knowledgeable, experienced doctor on this one.

At a minimum you will need to regularly have blood tests in order to monitor your recovery.

My go to PCT is Aromasin/Nolvadex/HCG - at a minimum you need something like this.

The longest I've ever stayed on is 12 weeks, but the good news is that my natural testosterone production has not suffered at all because I work with a good doc, do proper PCT, etc...
 
Discreet User said:

It's definitely worth consulting a knowledgeable, experienced doctor on this one.

At a minimum you will need to regularly have blood tests in order to monitor your recovery.

My go to PCT is Aromasin/Nolvadex/HCG - at a minimum you need something like this.

The longest I've ever stayed on is 12 weeks, but the good news is that my natural testosterone production has not suffered at all because I work with a good doc, do proper PCT, etc...
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Ive sorted my pct out.

1 Trip peptide 100mcg to kick start my natural production.
2 clomids 50mg week1, then 25mg every week
3 aromasin .5 Ed

Activate xtreme test booster
D asparic acid

Ghrp2 with cjc
 
Gearjunkie said:
Ive sorted my pct out.

1 Trip peptide 100mcg to kick start my natural production.
2 clomids 50mg week1, then 25mg every week
3 aromasin .5 Ed

Activate xtreme test booster
D asparic acid

Ghrp2 with cjc
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no unleahed? If I were You id throw everything I could think of in there
 
Gearjunkie said:
I think the pct Im using will be really effective.

I've got everything in there I need to recover.

In the end Blood work will say it all
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i agree with you mate,best of luck and im hoping you have a smooth recovery just remeber to keep training, keep motivated and youll kill that shit
 
i think what you have laid out is great and gives you a really good shot at recovering.

I would add unleashed because it will just make you feel better plain and simple but very effective and worth the 18 bucks.
 
All right it's all sorted and ready to go.

Insulin 10iu post workout

Trip 100mcg to kick start

Clomids 50mg Ed week1 then 25mg Ed

Activate xtreme, triazole and DAA.
 
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