Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below ok tomorrow will be my first carb up day. I just started a week ago and this week i have not gone more than 50 carbs a day im going to shoot for 700 carbs tomorrow and was wondering what type of carbs should i have throughout the day. Ive heard its best to have like fruit for your first few meals and then like oatmeal and rice for your last few meals. What way should i do this? Is it that big or a deal if I just have oatmeal and rice all day long? thanks
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Lifterforlife
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Bagels, lucky charms, milk, just about anything is fair game.
Am J Clin Nutr. 1988 Aug;48(2):240-7. Related Articles, Links
Glycogen storage capacity and de novo lipogenesis during massive carbohydrate overfeeding in man.
Acheson KJ, Schutz Y, Bessard T, Anantharaman K, Flatt JP, Jequier E.
Institute of Physiology, Faculty of Medicine, University of Lausanne, Switzerland.
The metabolic balance method was performed on three men to investigate the fate of large excesses of carbohydrate. Glycogen stores, which were first depleted by diet (3 d, 8.35 +/- 0.27 MJ [1994 +/- 65 kcal] decreasing to 5.70 +/- 1.03 MJ [1361 +/- 247 kcal], 15% protein, 75% fat, 10% carbohydrate) and exercise, were repleted during 7 d carbohydrate overfeeding (11% protein, 3% fat, and 86% carbohydrate) providing 15.25 +/- 1.10 MJ (3642 +/- 263 kcal) on the first day, increasing progressively to 20.64 +/- 1.30 MJ (4930 +/- 311 kcal) on the last day of overfeeding. Glycogen depletion was again accomplished with 2 d of carbohydrate restriction (2.52 MJ/d [602 kcal/d], 85% protein, and 15% fat). Glycogen storage capacity in man is approximately 15 g/kg body weight and can accommodate a gain of approximately 500 g before net lipid synthesis contributes to increasing body fat mass. When the glycogen stores are saturated, massive intakes of carbohydrate are disposed of by high carbohydrate-oxidation rates and substantial de novo lipid synthesis (150 g lipid/d using approximately 475 g CHO/d) without postabsorptive hyperglycemia.
Am J Clin Nutr. 1988 Aug;48(2):240-7. Related Articles, Links
Glycogen storage capacity and de novo lipogenesis during massive carbohydrate overfeeding in man.
Acheson KJ, Schutz Y, Bessard T, Anantharaman K, Flatt JP, Jequier E.
Institute of Physiology, Faculty of Medicine, University of Lausanne, Switzerland.
The metabolic balance method was performed on three men to investigate the fate of large excesses of carbohydrate. Glycogen stores, which were first depleted by diet (3 d, 8.35 +/- 0.27 MJ [1994 +/- 65 kcal] decreasing to 5.70 +/- 1.03 MJ [1361 +/- 247 kcal], 15% protein, 75% fat, 10% carbohydrate) and exercise, were repleted during 7 d carbohydrate overfeeding (11% protein, 3% fat, and 86% carbohydrate) providing 15.25 +/- 1.10 MJ (3642 +/- 263 kcal) on the first day, increasing progressively to 20.64 +/- 1.30 MJ (4930 +/- 311 kcal) on the last day of overfeeding. Glycogen depletion was again accomplished with 2 d of carbohydrate restriction (2.52 MJ/d [602 kcal/d], 85% protein, and 15% fat). Glycogen storage capacity in man is approximately 15 g/kg body weight and can accommodate a gain of approximately 500 g before net lipid synthesis contributes to increasing body fat mass. When the glycogen stores are saturated, massive intakes of carbohydrate are disposed of by high carbohydrate-oxidation rates and substantial de novo lipid synthesis (150 g lipid/d using approximately 475 g CHO/d) without postabsorptive hyperglycemia.
Lifterforlife
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traxxx said:
If you are in ketosis, then yes.
At 50 gr. of carbs per day max, you should have been able to reach ketosis.
jdevlin1985
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traxxx said:
Yes but you will regret it if you go mad. You will probably gain a stone of bloat. just be sure to watch the sodium intake if this is what you're going to do. I just eat 1cup of rice 7x, spaced every couple of hours apart. Obviously with other macros, i.e. protein, fats etc.
keep in mind that you should ease in... and partition the b'jeebus outta those carbs. If you are not using Glucorell for your carb up phase... and most definitely to slam yourself back into ketosis, then you are missing out big time.
Keep the last few meals of your carb up with as many 'oses' as possible, that is to say, go to town on the satan sugars: fructose, sucrose, dextrose, etc. They will make plunging back into ketosis easier. On your massive carb day/days do, PLEASE keep your fats to a minimum: low carb days=high fat days, high carb days=low fats, proteins are a constant.
Keep the last few meals of your carb up with as many 'oses' as possible, that is to say, go to town on the satan sugars: fructose, sucrose, dextrose, etc. They will make plunging back into ketosis easier. On your massive carb day/days do, PLEASE keep your fats to a minimum: low carb days=high fat days, high carb days=low fats, proteins are a constant.
traxxx said:
"oses" = any sugar with the letters 'ose' at the end: fructose, sucrose, lactose, dextrose... etc. Satan Sugars.
Glucorell-R will partition your refeed carbs directly to where you want them: the whole purpose of the refeed in reference to Muscular Hypertrophy is to pack fuel and recouperative goodies into your Muscle tissues, rather than just hammer your liver full of glycogen and pack on 3-to-1 water-glycogen ratio...
In reference to carb depletion and launching yer arse into ketosis in 24hours or less, hit your self with one Glucorell every hour for four hours after your last carb consumption on the last day of your refeed, you WILL want to be asleep when these kick in. Do a serious major body part HIGH INTENSITY resistance training session in the AM the next day with a SAVAGE HIIT cardio session either directly after or within 6 hours. Do NOT consume ANY carbs that day: no, you cant have even the 50 you would normally (which i suggest is too high anyway, it should be 30 max/day) and you will be in Ketosis by nightfall.
