Can you get super big and strong without the juice?!?

[ZZuluZ]

"They are not consumed internally, and have no physiological interaction with the human body. "

Crap, I guess I should stop eating then, lol Just kidding.

To be perfectly honest I have to say I do agree with Mjollnir on some points, but I'd rather not get into this. I have great respect for Brian and most lifters here.

-Zulu

 

[ironpipes47]

well i cant say i like bench shirts and squat suits either, but then again ive never tryed them. the last 2 meets ive been to my weight class has been full of kids that own those things. now im only in high school to. but anyways i love it when i beat those kids with all there fancy stuff. i wear my deckerville football shorts and my deckerville football cut off and my velcrow shows. by the way i play for deckerville football, as a half back and corner. but if you want to use the suits and shirts then im ok with that. maybe i should buy. how much they cost?

 

[1-dawg]

mjollnir -- you don't even lift in meets?? WTF!!!! How in the hell can you give advice on powerlifting when you are not even doing it? BTW, those lifts you mentioned, while they are ok, are not that great for a drug free lifter. You really can't be working that hard if those are your lifts. Some of the gusy that train with me in the garage are clean, and that's cool -- I have no problem with that. I respect them because they are their everyday working hard and helping the others. Their are only 2 rules in my garage for people to be allowed to stay - bust your ass and help your partners get strong. You are really portraying yourself as an idiot.

 

[ZZuluZ]

I don't claim to be by any means an expert....but I do dish out advice occasionally and try to helpful.

I guess I should stop because I don't (and never will) compete in meets??

I guess I should also stop giving advice because my total is still extremely small?

What kind of attitude is that 1-dawg??

-Zulu

 

[brianmincher]

I think I am just going to let 1-dawg speak for me on this thread.

This is not going to get anywhere, and is just pissing me off. Raw, natural, I am too good to compete against others people who look down on those who have the stones to put it on the line and compete, are not worth the time and energy I have spent here.

I guess I am just not disciplined enough to do the hard work necessary to continue on this thread. I am just going to take my sensitive sensibilities and go home and whimper.

I wish you knew me.

B

 

[Prometheus]

by Bob Youngs


1) If you help enough people attain their goals, they will do the same for you.

...


5) A person’s attitude will determine how successful or unsuccessful they will be.

6) The best lifters have a huge amount of respect for all other lifters.
While those that can’t lift shit blame everyone but themselves for their mediocrity.

 

[1-dawg]

Zulu -- This a serious a question -- how can you give advice about powerlifting ifyou have never been in a meet?? I have played basketball, but I would never try and give advice to someone that plays seriously. WHy?? Because it would be ridiculous.

I know drugfree lifters that work their asses off and I know users that work hard also. I also know drugfree lifters and users that are lazy and have shitty attitudes. You know something else, even when I was clean I preferred the non tested meets because of the condescending attitudes I ran across in the drugfree meets. WHen I choose partners for the garage, I don't really look at how strng the guy is, but I look to see if they have a set. We try and make them quit in a few days. If they last thru teh 1st week or so then they stay. Why?? Because they took everything we had to dish out and survived. Everything get stepped up a few notches when a new guy is around. I don't want someone tah gets intimidated by teh stronger guys, or the loudmouths. I want someone that has balls(figure of speech -- we also a part-time girl). I look for total commitment while they are training -- for themselves and the others, period.

 

[Mjollnir]

You're taking this far too personally

mjollnir -- you don't even lift in meets?? WTF!!!! How in the hell can you give advice on powerlifting when you are not even doing it?

I know about lifting, getting stronger and both in the context of the lifts used in powerlifting. I have competed in athletics for my entire life and still do, and hence I am familiar with the mindset critical to training correctly, steadily improving and competing. Hence, I know of what I speak, and it has direct parallels into powerlifting.

BTW, those lifts you mentioned, while they are ok, are not that great for a drug free lifter. You really can't be working that hard if those are your lifts.

I am always open to improvement, as are we all. I choose, it would seem, a different route to it than do you. As I mentioned, I train to beat my own records and history, not those of others.

Some of the gusy that train with me in the garage are clean, and that's cool -- I have no problem with that. I respect them because they are their everyday working hard and helping the others. Their are only 2 rules in my garage for people to be allowed to stay - bust your ass and help your partners get strong. You are really portraying yourself as an idiot.

Quite the opposite, I fear. I make no comment on you personally as to your choice in training regimen or supplementation. I personally don't care how you train, as it is your business. Regardless, all things being equal, I hold those who feel the need to taking steroids in lower esteem that those that do not, as to me it represents an unhealthy desire to achieve something one would not otherwise be able to do.

I calls 'em like I sees 'em.

 

[Dane]

Good posts Mjollnir

 

[1-dawg]

mjollnir -- you train to beat your own records btu who judges them. How do you know that they were done in teh same manner as the last time you did them. I can gaurantee you this -- if you entered a few powerlifting meets your lifts would take off like a rocket. Guys always seem to make a huge imporvement in their total AFTER they enter a meet.

I don't know who you are trying to impress around here but giving answers that sound like they come out of a textbook is ridiculous. I would like to hear you THEORY on meet strategy for a lifter going into his 1st nationals, or a lifter going into his 1st meet. How would you handle someone you coached when they bombed, or hwo would you handle them in the meet after they bombed?? You have no idea what type of mindset it requires to be on the platform. I have competed in many different sports, and powerlifting is much different than all the others.