can steroids kill you?

[Nelson Montana]

Joe I just read another thing you wrote on this thread. You said your "body was designed." This is totally wrong and anybody with a highschool education should know that. Your body evolved it wasn't designed. Your body evolved in such a way that we can work it hard, feed it well and it will respond and grow. By being a BBer you are actually just working with what nature has evolved your body to be. And your digestion system has only gotten "rest" after the industrial revolution. When we were running around naked or in skins we ate all the time. Look at the great apes today. They spend the vast majority of thier time eating. That's the way we were. The concept that you have three meals a day was created so you could run a machine in a factory!!

It was I who use the exprssion, "the body was designed" and it's a figure of speech and one I think everyone got.

Yes, we all know that the human body is a process of evolution. But your rational is off. To say it's somehow natural to grow as much as possible is convoluted logic. If your ancestors for the last 4000 years were approximately 160 pounds and then in one leap you go to 260...well, the body has not yet EVOLVED to the point where it carries that weight comfortably and it will be unduly stressed.

 

[needtogetaas]

I better stop eating peanuts then.

 

[Tatyana]

This is good info and probably is the cause of high BP while on. My question is this: If steroids increase viscosity of blood, then why is it so often said that AAS thin the blood? I have a surgery planned and was told to hold off on taking AAS becuase of the risk of increased bleeding???

Just to correct a funny way people refer to clotting; nothing thins or thickens the blood.

The body keeps water balance in very tight control, and the only way this changes is under severe conditions like phenomenal amounts of vomiting or diarrhoea, bleeding out, pathological sweating and dehydration or if the majority of your body is covered in burns.

The ingestion of far too much water MIGHT thin the blood temporarly, but the kidneys kick in quickly to eliminate it.

Various drugs interfer or block various components of the clotting cascade, this is why you may clot less and bleed out.

I am sure some drugs also induce a state of hypercoagulation as well.

For example, (I hope I remember this correctly), aspirin makes platelets less likely to release whatever they release so they stick together or vascular endothelium.

Aspirin does not thin the blood.

Steroids also result in a temporary hyperthyroidism, which is probably why people may have high blood pressure and why they think steroids take off fat.

They don't, the resultant elevation in your metabolism from more thyroxine in your body does this.

 

[centeroiler]

Just to correct a funny way people refer to clotting; nothing thins or thickens the blood.

The body keeps water balance in very tight control, and the only way this changes is under severe conditions like phenomenal amounts of vomiting or diarrhoea, bleeding out, pathological sweating and dehydration or if the majority of your body is covered in burns.

The ingestion of far too much water MIGHT thin the blood temporarly, but the kidneys kick in quickly to eliminate it.

Various drugs interfer or block various components of the clotting cascade, this is why you may clot less and bleed out.

I am sure some drugs also induce a state of hypercoagulation as well.

For example, (I hope I remember this correctly), aspirin makes platelets less likely to release whatever they release so they stick together or vascular endothelium.

Aspirin does not thin the blood.

Steroids also result in a temporary hyperthyroidism, which is probably why people may have high blood pressure and why they think steroids take off fat.

They don't, the resultant elevation in your metabolism from more thyroxine in your body does this.

So, is there a biological process whereby AAS' inhibit coagulation and then, can cause excessive bleeding during surgery, cuts, injuries, etc.?

 

[timtim]

So, is there a biological process whereby AAS' inhibit coagulation and then, can cause excessive bleeding during surgery, cuts, injuries, etc.?

i have heard of this but have no scientific background to back up what im saying. i have always been told to tell my doc if im on before surgery due to bleeding issues.

 

[Tatyana]

So, is there a biological process whereby AAS' inhibit coagulation and then, can cause excessive bleeding during surgery, cuts, injuries, etc.?

I think that the concern with AAS and surgery isn't the bleeding thing, but the anaesthetic.

 

[1500]

thats why i have never subscribed to the so-called "bulking" (up) cycle mentality. Unless you are an extremely hard gainer, bulking is just an excuse to eat like a pig and get fat. Who wants to look fat and bloated? hell, i can do that without even touching the gear.

+1. .

 

[HAYEZ]

i been bulking since oct..good ol tren added int he mix and im lean er then when i was cutting hahahaha

 

[centeroiler]

i been bulking since oct..good ol tren added int he mix and im lean er then when i was cutting hahahaha

Tren is cheating! piggyboy!

Now, go work those traps. They're look'n weak!!!

 

[HAYEZ]

Tren is cheating! piggyboy!

Now, go work those traps. They're look'n weak!!!

lol@piggyboy i been thinking about workign out all day..cant seem to get out of bed tho lolol