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Caffeine and competition on Sat.
- Thread starter krishna
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Krishna how are you taking in the caffine is it black coffee? tea? diet soda?
What are you doing with your sodium in take if anything? Are you using a directic? Need a little more info
What are you doing with your sodium in take if anything? Are you using a directic? Need a little more info
todoveritas
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Personally, I would keep taking it. At this point caffeine should be acting more as a direct stimulant (I presume you are taking it as part of an ECA regimen) and its diuretic effects are secondary. There are many other things that work far better at controlling water. Dandelion, hydrochlorothiazide, etc.
krishna
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superqt4u2nv said:Krishna how are you taking in the caffine is it black coffee? tea? diet soda?
What are you doing with your sodium in take if anything? Are you using a directic? Need a little more info
I got this dandelion shit today and took the minumum dose. Don't know jack about dieuretics so I don't know if I wanna keep taking it. I usually drink speed stacks which have 5 cals and are 45mg of sodium. What should I do lady?
Hmm I called for some back up as I am still wet behind the ears on final stages of prep.krishna said:
Aside from the sodium in the speed stack are you adding extra salt to your foods anything like that? Do you know how much sodium you are taking in? What is your water plan?
Sassy69
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Are you drinking coffee or using caffeine tabs? Guessing caffeine tabs. What is your water depletion strategy?
I guess I've always used a thermogenic -whether it be an OTC product or my own stack of E/C/A. In that capacity I would keep using it just as you are now.
As far as the dandelion root - I might suggest you use it w/ the same instructions as you would find on a bottle of Taraxatone. If I were giving you instructions for competition I would've told you to get a bottle of Cytodyne Taraxatone (OTC diuretic http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cyt/tara.html) and start it 10 days prior to your show date - its a 10 day program. OR some MHP Xpel (http://www.a1nutritionproducts.com/buy/mhp/xpel/80capsules?gclid=CKubhLemvIsCFQ93UAodEBAdvw) - that is essentially the same but is a 5 day treatment. If possible you might see if you can get a bottle of Xpel at a local GNC early tomorrow and just start using it per the instructions.
But if you choose to just use the dandelion root you could use it similar to the instructions on the Taraxatone bottle - the instructions are on that link above.
I would include a 99 mg (standard size) potassium tab w/ each dose of the dandelion root - this helps a little w/ the cramping that can happen w/ water dumping. Tho two products I mentioned both are potassium-sparing diuretics but they also supplement w/ potassium & cal / mag which both help w/ cramping from dehydration.
I guess I've always used a thermogenic -whether it be an OTC product or my own stack of E/C/A. In that capacity I would keep using it just as you are now.
As far as the dandelion root - I might suggest you use it w/ the same instructions as you would find on a bottle of Taraxatone. If I were giving you instructions for competition I would've told you to get a bottle of Cytodyne Taraxatone (OTC diuretic http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/cyt/tara.html) and start it 10 days prior to your show date - its a 10 day program. OR some MHP Xpel (http://www.a1nutritionproducts.com/buy/mhp/xpel/80capsules?gclid=CKubhLemvIsCFQ93UAodEBAdvw) - that is essentially the same but is a 5 day treatment. If possible you might see if you can get a bottle of Xpel at a local GNC early tomorrow and just start using it per the instructions.
But if you choose to just use the dandelion root you could use it similar to the instructions on the Taraxatone bottle - the instructions are on that link above.
I would include a 99 mg (standard size) potassium tab w/ each dose of the dandelion root - this helps a little w/ the cramping that can happen w/ water dumping. Tho two products I mentioned both are potassium-sparing diuretics but they also supplement w/ potassium & cal / mag which both help w/ cramping from dehydration.
Sassy69
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Run the dandelion root thru your show date and then taper down for a few days. Also you're aware of the post show rebound stuff? Don't shitload after your show - give yourself a couple of cheats if you are looking forward to it after your show but stick to the uber clean diet and slowly incorporate regular foods back in. You've been eating a very clean, restricted variety diet for a long time so anything "new" you put back in will immediatly cause a rebound - this includes sodium, heavy carbs, heavy fats, etc. Also ease back into the water / liquids too if you are doing a water depletion.
Here's a description of what your body goes through post show:
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindandmuscle/magpage.php?issueID=40&artID=49
Not to scare you -- just saying to ease out of your competition diet and back into 'regular' eating slowly - say over a week - and this will help avoid the 20 lb water gain that will make your ankles feel like water balloons about ready to burst. Its really miserable if you let it all go...
Good luck w/ your show! What weight class are you doing?
Here's a description of what your body goes through post show:
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindandmuscle/magpage.php?issueID=40&artID=49
Not to scare you -- just saying to ease out of your competition diet and back into 'regular' eating slowly - say over a week - and this will help avoid the 20 lb water gain that will make your ankles feel like water balloons about ready to burst. Its really miserable if you let it all go...
Good luck w/ your show! What weight class are you doing?
krishna
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K I'll stick to the one or two speed stacks I have a day. I've been drinking a 1 - 1 1/2 gallons of water a day. Tomorrow I plan to drop it to a gallon, and then Friday, drop it to 1/2 - 3/4 of a gallon and stop drinking by 6 pm. I'm worried about losing water from my muscles?? I've been on 150 carbs for the past 2 1/2 weeks, but today I jumped it up to about 275 to start filling back in. How should I adjust my carbs as I taper the water off? Do you have a different opinion on what I should do? I'm basically just keeping my sodium at about 1500 mg or below (have been doing that for awhile). Hmmmmmm......
