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Ca cops shoot and kill dog

ok...so I actually watched this video....
I normally don't scream police brutality but this is appalling to me.
I've gone into plenty of environments where cops have actually been bit and not one cop I've worked with has been provoked to shoot anything other than a dying animal.
The dog freaked when its owner started being taken away..which is pretty normal for the breed or any strongly bonded dog. The owner shouldn't have left the windows down so much ...the whole thing is a fucking mess. The dog jumped once and got dusted? I didn't have sound for the vid and hope I never do. I can't see how that was the first course of action at all. Why is an officer that's obviously afraid of the animal (by his body language) the one approaching the animal with gun drawn??
I got sick just seeing it without hearing it... I knew I shouldn't watch it. This pretty much ruined my day utterly.

Officers Involved in the Shooting Death of Max the Rottweiler Are Pulled from Street Duty | Dogster
 
you know what semper? I think you're an alright dude...but if you think any of that is ok/procedural you need to be re-trained.

oh and the difference between macing or tasing the dog vs shooting it is...at least there would be room for argument. Here the cops keep dog treats on them as a first line...then the animal gets hit with mace if need be and contained while animal control is called. Try dealing with a dog thats utterly out of its mind because its owner is dying.
 
That youtube video is edited. You have to go to one of the shock video sites to see the unedited version. the dog did actually lunge at the officer a couple times.
 
that video showed a couple of low to the ground lunges...(hardly gonna get killed that way)one one serious lunge.
I can't see the dogs face and don't know what its intent was (or read its posture in that vid)..for all I know its a spazzy animal that jumps like a lunatic whenever it sees anyone

I do see a dog approaching with a low head which is actually a very good sign in a dog approaching someone...its submissive.

I will believe shooting the animal was uncalled for based on what I've seen and an absence of better information.
 
What kind of a faggot actually screen shots all this crap and stores for a later time?


You must have a folder full of this crap.


That's pretty pathetic.

I have a dry dick, but this is way more pathetic than that. (maybe, lol)

It's like you are actually that emotionally vested into it that it actually matters to you.

How old are you?

That shit is funny. He must have a whole hard drive dedicated to EF post and pics.
 
Holy shit would you retards get the fuck off the racist piss pot, fuck man. Yea I'm a ca cop and yea I would have done the same fucking thing whether he was white, black or brown. I would have done it different than him though. As soon as he went to get in his car i would have waited for him to leave then returned to the issue at hand but thats all hind site and I wasn't there.

The pos ngrs that I deal with everyday in my area get talked to and treated a lot different than the black people do in the rich parts of town. Everyone has a dialect they respond to best. Working the shit whole ghetto parts of town all those fucks respond to is getting your point across cause they don't wanna listen. You not being a cop and only having csi and law and order to base your understanding of the law on is what's wrong. You see it on tv or the news and its never the full story. I'm civil as fuck but cops are not liked especially in ca and where I work so shits handles as fast as possible so we can get the fuck out without stirring the pot.

I'm not k9 but if you killed a police dog you can guarantee his partner is going to put holes in you. Take this same exact situation and take the fact that he was white away from it. The story just got colder. Now take the fact he was a police officer away. "Someone shot a dog?" Hmm "oh well". That's exactly how shit would be right now.

I'm happy to hear from a cop, and I'm glad you said you'd likely have done things differently if you had been there. My point is that the suspect (who was acting cooperatively by placing the dog in the car, then returning to be cuffed per directions of the officers), was not given the chance to recapture the dog, which even had his leash trailing behind him! Obviously the suspect was not a flight risk, and was not exhibiting combative or threatening behavior, so why didn't the officers simply let go of him so he could stop the dog? So simple!!!!

I'm not a cop, but I have absolutely and on many occasions, been confronted by dogs of all sizes and demeanors when I was a TV repairman. In 46 years of life, I've never been bitten, and I've even gone into places where "attack dogs" were. I believe that the cop who shot, was simply scared of dogs. Period. Police officers MUST learn to deal with all situations without using deadly force, with one exception, and that's to stop an opposing deadly force.

And yes, I do believe there is rampant racism in many police departments, including the Hawthorne PD and the LA County Sheriff's Dept. I personally know several officers who are racists at heart. No matter what they commit to when taking the oath of being sworn onto the force, a belief is a belief, and it's there festering in the background. I have no idea what if any role that played in this case, but it's a possibility since the suspect had filed racism complaints (whether they were real or made-up). One more point I will make, is that racism is NOT the same thing as profiling. If I were a cop, I'd notice a Black teenager roaming around in a $300 car in an affluent community, and I'd notice a white yuppie in a BMW roaming around South Central LA. I'd also notice a white preppie driving around in a lowered Cadillac with purple fuzzy dice on the mirror, and I'd notice a Hispanic driving a car with surf racks on it and a DC sticker. Not because of color, but because it's a puzzle with a missing piece, and it would be reasonable to assume that the missing piece could be something I needed to address as an officer.

I understand that being a cop is a tough job, and believe it or not after all this I've ranted about, I appreciate the hard work of the police community, and I don't know what we'd do without you. But as with any other sector of society, there are bad apples, and we need to be willing to accept that, and to remove those bad apples from positions where people can be harassed under the color of authority, and where dogs get shot. I hold a valid CCW permit in Texas, and I guarantee you that as a civilian, they'd snatch that away from me so fast that my head would spin, if I even unholstered a weapon on a city street due to a dog approaching.

Charles
 
It also gets a little ridiculous how much people overplay the race card. Just because white cops are arresting a black man doesn't mean its brutality or excessive violence...this is a case of the black man's dog attacking o threatening to attack a cop that happens to be white, and the cop was untrained to handle a dog and felt threatened...he could have reacted differently but he shot the dog...doesn't make him evil.
 
no you're an idiot because it isn't about race...and isn't totally about the dog even though its horrific as fuck

its about a poorly trained cop pulling a weapon and firing in an obviously heavily populated area...

you're just such a fucking retard. Go lick someones feet.
 
Is there even such a thing as a well-trained cop? It's not like it's a hard job to get, or requires any kind of degree. It's a short training course, just like a security guard.
 
You mad about something?

Go lick someone's feet? lol

go make coffee somewhere? these are your insults???

hahahahahahah

That's pretty sad. Seriously. Even for a little cunt like you. Pretty sad. I make a joke in a thread and you take it seriously and your sad ass starts following me around in threads to comment on my post.

Why don't you go find someone else on this board to cheat on your husband with, seeing as your boy toy here dumped your ass...what good are you anyways? You come on here complain about how bad this board is and follow me around? At least use some good jokes...you're pretty fucking sad dude.
 
sorry sir, it wont happen again.





only time I've ever been accused of being too nice to women
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funny thing is I have so many screen shots of cw bringing his personal shit to the board and being a little bitch about it I almost need a separate folder for 'em all





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cindy, can you confirm java's hair is on point? ignore what cw is talking about.
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lmfao

I can't confirm, bc I really don't remember. It's been six or seven years since that post too. Lol.

Got anything else interesting???
 
I want to see a pic of Lumberg with his cock out, standing next to that car with the duct tape and cardboard trim, parked by the oil slick he poured in front of the police station. That would be the most perfect picture ever.
 
You mad about something?

Go lick someone's feet? lol

go make coffee somewhere? these are your insults???

hahahahahahah

That's pretty sad. Seriously. Even for a little cunt like you. Pretty sad. I make a joke in a thread and you take it seriously and your sad ass starts following me around in threads to comment on my post.

Why don't you go find someone else on this board to cheat on your husband with, seeing as your boy toy here dumped your ass...what good are you anyways? You come on here complain about how bad this board is and follow me around? At least use some good jokes...you're pretty fucking sad dude.

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, you mad bro? You still mad I wouldn't ever give you pics even though you begged?

who was I dumped by traz??? lololol
I'm seriously dying at the shit you think you know.
and follow you around? don't flatter yourself. You're not attractive , successful or intelligent why would I waste my time doing anything but trolling you. Why don't you shove your head further up N2's ass..oh wait...LOLOLOL
 
It also gets a little ridiculous how much people overplay the race card. Just because white cops are arresting a black man doesn't mean its brutality or excessive violence...this is a case of the black man's dog attacking o threatening to attack a cop that happens to be white, and the cop was untrained to handle a dog and felt threatened...he could have reacted differently but he shot the dog...doesn't make him evil.

I think the some say the race card gets overplayed because many (if not most) of those folks are in denial. I don't think race had anything to do with this situation. But I am curious what the first lawsuit was about. It is a common belief by african Americans that the police are overly aggressive and violent in their communities , hence they tend not to call them. In this case a man was arrested (or detained) for a clearly discresionary and basically unnecessary reason. That prompted the dog to be shot. I agree with Redsamurai that Hawthorne is liable for the dog.
 
This apparantly is what his first lawsuit was about

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/723532/rosby-complaint.txt

8. Plaintiif resides at a home located at 4079 West 136"' Street, No. C, Hawthorne,
Califomia 90250 (the "Property"), along with his wife and their children_about July 28, 2012, Mr. Rosby's wife called police during a non-violent
verbal disagreement (over a misunderstanding) to try and make Mr. Rosby leave the home for
the evening. Mr. Rosby agreed to leave for the evening, and Mrs. Rosby reported to the police
that he was leaving and no action was needed.

10. Nevertheless, an army of officers appeared and attacked Mr. Rosby without



cause or reason, including Peraza and Kemp, slamming him to the ground, and then punching

and
CD

and kicking him repeatedly. The ofiicers stated while beating him that they recognized him as

but


the "troublemaker" who had previously made a complaint about the lack of African American

12 oflicers employed with the Hawthorne police department, and aboutla prior complaint that the

13 Hawthorne police department had engaged in racial profiling of Plaintiff on July' 29, 2011. (A

14 true and correct copy of Plaintifi's prior complaint regarding racial profiling is attached hereto"

15 as Exhibit A.)

16 1. Indeed, after Plaintifi"s complaint regarding the July 29, 2011 racial profiling

17 incident, on January 13, 2012, Plaintiff received a letter from the Los Angeles County Public

18 Defender requesting his assistance in a similar matter. (A true andlcorrect copy of the letter

19 from the Los Angeles County Public Defender is attached hereto as Exhibit B.)

20 12. The officers finally stopped beating Mr. Rosby after his wife and children ran

21 outside screaming for them to stop. They were alerted to the heating by Mr. Rosby's cries and

22 screams, and the helicopter circling above with a spotlight (apparently, in this case, responders
23 improperly and insupportably decided that a helicopter and an army of police officers was an
24 appropriate response to a non-violent verbal misunderstanding).
25 13. The officers then shoved Mr. Rosby into a squad car and hauled him off to jail
26 without reason or justification. Mr. Rosby repeatedly asked oflicers why he was under arrest
27 and wasltold to "shut up." At the station, the merciless and unprovoked beating by the oflicers
28 continued relentlessly.


Enough said
 
Well, I can't comment on the validity of the police brutality claims as I was not there and don't know the situation - but in CA when the police are called for a domestic violence case, violent or not, somebody must be arrested. There's no warnings. Either one or both individuals get's arrested. That's the law here.
 
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, you mad bro? You still mad I wouldn't ever give you pics even though you begged?

who was I dumped by traz??? lololol
I'm seriously dying at the shit you think you know.
and follow you around? don't flatter yourself. You're not attractive , successful or intelligent why would I waste my time doing anything but trolling you. Why don't you shove your head further up N2's ass..oh wait...LOLOLOL

begged for your pics?? lol I date women that make you look like a tard, oh wait that's not too hard to do now is it?

Don't flatter yourself...you're not my type. I like women with brains and class...and you have neither

LOL @ judging someone's success or intelligence based on what he portrays on the interwebs...shows how "intelligent" you are...I wouldn't even deal with you in real life...

Am I mad? hardly. Over what? A few comments made by yet another internet attention whore? lol...again don't flatter yourself...
 
begged for your pics?? lol I date women that make you look like a tard, oh wait that's not too hard to do now is it?

Don't flatter yourself...you're not my type. I like women with brains and class...and you have neither

LOL @ judging someone's success or intelligence based on what he portrays on the interwebs...shows how "intelligent" you are...I wouldn't even deal with you in real life...

Am I mad? hardly. Over what? A few comments made by yet another internet attention whore? lol...again don't flatter yourself...

actually traz you were on pretty much on every female on elites profile like 7 months ago being a total creep.

Rachel was the only one that took that bait.
 
My sister's old boyfriend was half black, and he was pulled over several times and had his car searched without any real cause to search. He consented because he had nothing to hide but racial profiling happens all the time. Cops can be total douche bags like that.
 
My sister's old boyfriend was half black, and he was pulled over several times and had his car searched without any real cause to search. He consented because he had nothing to hide but racial profiling happens all the time. Cops can be total douche bags like that.

Is this why you hate blacks so much?
 
Could you explain exactly what of this information is pertinent to the dog shooting?

I think the some say the race card gets overplayed because many (if not most) of those folks are in denial. I don't think race had anything to do with this situation. But I am curious what the first lawsuit was about. It is a common belief by african Americans that the police are overly aggressive and violent in their communities , hence they tend not to call them. In this case a man was arrested (or detained) for a clearly discresionary and basically unnecessary reason. That prompted the dog to be shot. I agree with Redsamurai that Hawthorne is liable for the dog.

;)
 
Is this why you hate blacks so much?


Actually, true story he was killed in a car accident summer of 2005. It was an extremely hard time. My sister had dated him for like 7 years. I've never seen grief and pain on somebody's face so strongly as my sister's at that time.


I don hate blacks bro. I have blacks in my family.
 
I can't believe shirlene cheated on her husband with an EFer.

On a related note: how about drinks in the city?

I haven't....how bout those drinks in the city

some mojitos and questionable decisions?
 
QUOTE=shirlene29;16237143]I haven't....how bout those drinks in the city

some mojitos and questionable decisions?[/QUOTE]

:wavey:
 
Actually, true story he was killed in a car accident summer of 2005. It was an extremely hard time. My sister had dated him for like 7 years. I've never seen grief and pain on somebody's face so strongly as my sister's at that time.


I don hate blacks bro. I have blacks in my family.

yall got house niggas?
 
Yeah, no shit. Owning slaves and having multiple wives is frowned upon in most places outside of Utah.

Mormons were hated partially because they supported black freedom. That made people mad because they wanted to keep people from bringing slaves into the Louisiana Purchase area.

The notion that Mormons don't like black people or is racist against them has never been true. I've said this, I don't know, 15 times on this board.

I know you're just kidding around though.
 
That is fucked up!!!!! Cops here in ca are a joke man. Most of them atleast

Sent from my SPH-L710 using EliteFitness
 
This apparantly is what his first lawsuit was about

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/723532/rosby-complaint.txt

8. Plaintiif resides at a home located at 4079 West 136"' Street, No. C, Hawthorne,
Califomia 90250 (the "Property"), along with his wife and their children_about July 28, 2012, Mr. Rosby's wife called police during a non-violent
verbal disagreement (over a misunderstanding) to try and make Mr. Rosby leave the home for
the evening. Mr. Rosby agreed to leave for the evening, and Mrs. Rosby reported to the police
that he was leaving and no action was needed.

10. Nevertheless, an army of officers appeared and attacked Mr. Rosby without



cause or reason, including Peraza and Kemp, slamming him to the ground, and then punching

and
CD

and kicking him repeatedly. The ofiicers stated while beating him that they recognized him as

but


the "troublemaker" who had previously made a complaint about the lack of African American

12 oflicers employed with the Hawthorne police department, and aboutla prior complaint that the

13 Hawthorne police department had engaged in racial profiling of Plaintiff on July' 29, 2011. (A

14 true and correct copy of Plaintifi's prior complaint regarding racial profiling is attached hereto"

15 as Exhibit A.)

16 1. Indeed, after Plaintifi"s complaint regarding the July 29, 2011 racial profiling

17 incident, on January 13, 2012, Plaintiff received a letter from the Los Angeles County Public

18 Defender requesting his assistance in a similar matter. (A true andlcorrect copy of the letter

19 from the Los Angeles County Public Defender is attached hereto as Exhibit B.)

20 12. The officers finally stopped beating Mr. Rosby after his wife and children ran

21 outside screaming for them to stop. They were alerted to the heating by Mr. Rosby's cries and

22 screams, and the helicopter circling above with a spotlight (apparently, in this case, responders
23 improperly and insupportably decided that a helicopter and an army of police officers was an
24 appropriate response to a non-violent verbal misunderstanding).
25 13. The officers then shoved Mr. Rosby into a squad car and hauled him off to jail
26 without reason or justification. Mr. Rosby repeatedly asked oflicers why he was under arrest
27 and wasltold to "shut up." At the station, the merciless and unprovoked beating by the oflicers
28 continued relentlessly.


Enough said

Those are just excerpts from the complaint. All complaints read like that.

"Plaintiff was subjected to inhumane physical and mental abuse so as to blah blah blah... Give me a $20M check."

What were the findings?
 
Why didn't they just mace the dog? I've done it and my wife had to mace one this morning. Some of y'all hated me for it, cause y'all be stupid.
 
I would've beat both cops to death right then and there if they didn't shoot me first. That was illegal as fuck and obviously trying to confiscate footage of martial law running strong. Fucking road blocks. Those cops deserve prison til eternity's end.

Oh they would have shot you tough guy, probably would have just beat the shit out of you until they got you cuffed.
 
I will never live in California because there is no police accountability there. We know the shooting will not go against the officer.... California which is already financially strapped will ask the taxpayers to give this guy a few more hundred K for the dog shooting. The issue is when will this state start cleaning up if its police departments

Every hundred K comes from the taxpayers.

And we're treating those guys like shit these days.
 

False.

I use to have a pitbull, and besides my family, that thing would rip anything apart it wanted to.

We put it down because it broke off it's chain and mauled a neighboring dog being walked by its owner.


As the owner, it was a sweet dog. It ALWAYS acted aggressive towards strangers though.
 
youre not allowed to talk about anything in front of woody unless he approves of the topic. He doesn't actually want to hear whats going on with you...just tell you about beer and cigars.
 
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