Bros! Serious shit to think about here.

[guards]

I ONLY use whey protein.....and lots of sauce

 

[jubei]

gaurds why are you so sexy?


Eat like a beast and train like a beast if you wanna look like a beast. Simple as that.

 

[lawnsaver]

Bodybuilders of 10, 20, 30 years ago had the same amazing physques that we all see today. Physiques that we would kill for. But those BB's of years back didn't have shit like CLA, r-ALA, Creatine, NO2 etc etc etc. You get the picture! Yet! Without all this shit...they still became beasts! Right??? Ok! So therefore...is it really necessary for US to take those supplements that are available to us today? They did back in the past without all these supps! Why do we need them?

Back in the day there were maybe 30-40 really big guys...if that...which tells me they were extremely genetically gifted

Today there are 10-15 times that number, and probably a lot more, why??

Advancements in supplements and bbing compounds.

 

[Smokescreen]

God I love this fucking website! Bunch of smart MOFOs here. Knowledge, knowledge and more knowledge. Can't get enough of it! Ok...so what would most of you say for the following?

CLA
r-ALA
Creatine
Glutamine ( L-Glute or Glutamine Peptides )
Hydrolyzed Proteins
Amino Acids for Pre and Post WO

 

[Dial_tone]

The difference is that back in the day people didn't expect to look like they did after 2-3 years of training. You guys want it all now and it just doesn't work that way.

 

[Smokescreen]

Dial tone...you see that back of mine? It took me less than 72 hours to get that! I was actually 112lb soaking wet! LOL

 

[supreme]

Well your effective supplement list is good, I would add multi-vitamins and anti-oxidant formula, melatonin is also great for sleep and hormone regulation

CLA??? Last time I posted on this Macro said it was not effective in low doses and high dosses would give me the shits (and it did)
apparently they (scientists) will soon be able to fraction the isomer of CLA responsible for fat loss ans sell it - thus a resonable non-explosive shit causing supplement will be possible

It is possible that low dose CLA may have other benefits such as anti-catabolism and anti-cancer, I am only talking about high dose for fat loss (> 12 grams / day)

S

 

[guards]

God I love this fucking website! Bunch of smart MOFOs here. Knowledge, knowledge and more knowledge. Can't get enough of it! Ok...so what would most of you say for the following?

CLA
r-ALA
Creatine
Glutamine ( L-Glute or Glutamine Peptides )
Hydrolyzed Proteins
Amino Acids for Pre and Post WO

Honestly dude......I think it's all crap and WAY overrated. Most are just a money grab IMO.


Get a good whey protein, take a good multi-vitamen in the morning, and eat like it's going out of style.



As for my sexiness Jubei , I believe it has to do with my perfect arse....so round and lucious.LOL

 

[needsize]

since I started juicing, I have used pretty much only protein, joint supplements, creatine very rarely, and thats about it as far as supps, and have done pretty well I think

 

[wutangnomo]

I agree that a lot of supps are a waste of money. Most of them you take and piss out the majority. Personally I'd say multi vitamins are one of worst when it comes to this. If you consume a good clean healthy diet there shouldn't even be a need for a multi. There are so many supps that have a real food alternative, which is the way to go.

Ginger root.... fuck it just use the real thing and add a little sliver of ginger to your meals.

Green tea extract.... screw all that scientific mumbo jumbo about ecgc's and polyphenols yada yada.... just drink green tea.

Creatine.... just eat more red meat.

The list goes on and on...

Personally I think there is some use for ala. Not only is it a potent antioxidant but it is also a great liver protectant as well. It's one of the best all around supps out there. I also think fish oil is a good product b/c there aren't too many clean sources of efa's now. My choice of supps would be ala, fish oil, and whey. Maybe also throw in some vitamin E as well. Other then that most are garbage and can be achieved through other means.