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Tweakle said:
I just noticed the poster is doing a gram a week.. nice starting dose! :worried:
no no tweakle! don't you know he's lots of experience lifting and many cycles behind him. he also has trains balls to the wall, and eats a ton... and he's got 20" arms too.
but seriously, casualbb, you mention turning a 5 RM into a 15RM on juice... i don't even think that's possible for anyone but a novice lifter.
 
casualbb said:
Some good advice I heard from HST juicers:

When you combine good training with juice and good eating, the gains are huge, and they tend to support strength gains that can be dangerous.

So what those guys do is, they know what their maxes are before running the cycle. They'll run the weight progression until they hit their maxes and just stay there, not surpassing them. But they'll increase the reps as they can.

So they might end up doing like 15 rep sets with their previous 5RM. Then when they go off juice, they kick in the heavier weights with negatives and stuff. It's supposed to offset the typical muscle loss in PCT by also giving the muscles high stimulation from PR-level weights.

Oh, also you can work out as frequently as you feel you can recover. If you're on juice, why waste it.

i do however echo the others' concerns. We worry that someone who is asking such basic questions about training is similarly uninformed about proper steroid use, something that is definitely risky to play around with.


why would anyone ever try to use heavier weights when they go off? this has got to be the most rediculous advice that I have ever heard. when you come off, you are more likely to get injured. training needs to be backed off when you are off. heavier weight should be used when on. this does not mean that you can work out 6 days per week, balls to the wall. it just means that you should push the weigh (poundage wise) up while on, but not alter your work out frequency
 
maybe i wasn't clear.

the rationale is that it isn't dangerous because you're never much surpassing the maxes you've established before the cycle. they save the "hey im bigger, lets see how strong i got" for after the recovery phase.

of course i've never juiced, I'm just relaying what has worked for some people. fyi arms probably hovering around 13" or so right now, probably because I haven't worked out in awhile. but hey, if you feel that your information is only legitimate from big people, thats your prerogative
 
casualbb said:
of course i've never juiced, I'm just relaying what has worked for some people. fyi arms probably hovering around 13" or so right now, probably because I haven't worked out in awhile. but hey, if you feel that your information is only legitimate from big people, thats your prerogative
easy bro, i'm not sure illum is saying that at all :)
 
casualbb said:
maybe i wasn't clear.

the rationale is that it isn't dangerous because you're never much surpassing the maxes you've established before the cycle. they save the "hey im bigger, lets see how strong i got" for after the recovery phase.

of course i've never juiced, I'm just relaying what has worked for some people. fyi arms probably hovering around 13" or so right now, probably because I haven't worked out in awhile. but hey, if you feel that your information is only legitimate from big people, thats your prerogative

The only legitimate advice on lifting is from big people - period ?

I take some advice from my wife and she is only 120lbs. Not lifting or AAS advice, but more so where we should eat, etc....... :p
 
casualbb said:
maybe i wasn't clear.

the rationale is that it isn't dangerous because you're never much surpassing the maxes you've established before the cycle. they save the "hey im bigger, lets see how strong i got" for after the recovery phase.

of course i've never juiced, I'm just relaying what has worked for some people. fyi arms probably hovering around 13" or so right now, probably because I haven't worked out in awhile. but hey, if you feel that your information is only legitimate from big people, thats your prerogative


No, I dont think that only legitimate information comes from big people.

I think that only legitimate information comes from people who have experience. someone who has never juiced has no business trying to tell others how to go about doing a cycle, and how to train when they are on.
 
actually my comment (info legitimate from big people) was directed at silvershadow, who seemed more interested in my physique than what i was saying.

i have no beef with you illuminati :) although, looking back to my first message, where exactly did I tell anybody how to train? i'm just throwing it out there, "hey, this is how some people do it. they seem to be successful in achieving their goals while avoiding injury"

just trying to have a discussion, cheers people.

oh, and just for the record, I'm small. carry on.
 
casualbb said:
actually my comment (info legitimate from big people) was directed at silvershadow, who seemed more interested in my physique than what i was saying.

i have no beef with you illuminati :) although, looking back to my first message, where exactly did I tell anybody how to train? i'm just throwing it out there, "hey, this is how some people do it. they seem to be successful in achieving their goals while avoiding injury"

just trying to have a discussion, cheers people.

oh, and just for the record, I'm small. carry on.

i aint got no beef with you either. I was just clarifying my point
 
lol, DBBT gave me red karma for this.....I thought it was helpful. I guess the c and c fun will make its way over here.
 
BiggT said:
lol, DBBT gave me red karma for this.....I thought it was helpful.

Hey . . . me too. Maybe it was b/c you didn't mention precisely how many sets of flies you should do when using dbol. Don't worry, T. You've got a lot to learn. Pretty soon, you'll be training w/ the best of 'em.
 
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