bro's help me out!!

[fleabag711]

I definitely understand your problem. Try running more like 6 sets of DB bench, supersetted w/ no more than 3 sets of DB flies. do that like every other week but don't start doing it for every body part or you're asking for trouble when running deca + sust. Trust me on that one. If you have to, try 4 sets for legs every other week or so.

Wow. every other week. I don't doubt you, but just seems like a long time. I'm only on 8 week cycle. thanks proto.

 

[fleabag711]

You should know how to lift to maximize the effects from the hormones your putting into your body.

No one can tell you what's "best" there is no best... there are new routines and training styles... you should already know what's best for you and what set and rep ranges you respond best to.

Since you don't seem to know... I would just find a routine/training split online and do it.

You were begging for flames... hope my post helped you out a little bit though.

Yeah I see what you are saying. My post probaly could have been better. I just want to hear from a few people and compare with what I read here.

C&P from anasci

Studies have cleary shown that nearly all the muscular hypertrophy experienced by bodybuilders occurs in the white (fast twitch) muscle fibers. fast twitch muscle fibers are simulated by explosive, power type exercises. Slow twitch muscle fibers (red) are worked with low intensity, aerobic type training. High repetition weight training works primarily red muscle fibers; they have little capacity for hypertrophy. Long distance runners are the extreme example of athletes who have fully developed slow twitch muscles. It is clear by looking at them that this type of work does not develop much muscularity, It has been my experience that the farther you get away from high rep weight training, the more you will GROW.

Another point related to training with heavy weights relates to muscle adaptation. The entire goal of weight training is to make muscles become adaptive to the stress of weight training. This adaption doesn't occur unless the stress of each workout is beyond what the muscle can get used. Slow twitch muscle fibers adapt to stress by becoming more metabolically efficient, fast twitch muscle fibers adapt by becoming larger each time they are forced to adapt. These fast twitch fibers do not ever fully become accustomed to being blasted with heavy weights, Thus, they
will continue to adapt (grow) when they are activated by the explosive lifting of heavy weights.

Another important point in building muscle size and strength is that recovery takes time. Remember that the workout is just the beginning, repair and growth follow as much as a week later. For this reason, we find lt unwise to train each body part more than once every five days. Every part of your body you should train once a week which is the best way to grow.

 

[xblitz44x]

I definitely understand your problem. Try running more like 6 sets of DB bench, supersetted w/ no more than 3 sets of DB flies. do that like every other week but don't start doing it for every body part or you're asking for trouble when running deca + sust. Trust me on that one. If you have to, try 4 sets for legs every other week or so.

Yeah that's great advice, proto! But I thought cables crossovers are compatible with sust, and not flies? Am I wrong?

 

[BiggT]

Proto, top notch advice.

lol, how can you live with yourself?????

 

[BiggT]

Is it wrong to work out EOD on juice. Im currently not doing it this way, but I have been reading like 5 days should be taken off for recovery when doing mass workouts. Currently Im doing like 9 sets for chest at 6-8 reps each. Is this a good example I can use on other muscles. Im doing like 3 sets bench, 3 sets dumbells, and 3 sets incline. I used to work out every other day for years, but workout methods are different on juice? Is this right?? thanks in advance. Im running 500-600mg sustanon week, and 450mg deca durabollin week.

Flebag, I am not saying this to be a dick or anything, I am saying it to try to help. Anybody who asks a training-related question like the one you just asked has no business using steroids. To put it nicely, it was a retarded question with no answer.

Why don't you start with some stats (height/weight/general body comp) and some lifts (full squat, bench, deadlift, military press, row). Have you made any progress naturally? My guess is no.

Solid training is solid training, regardless of whether or not you use steroids. If you're seriously gonna stick around then I'd like to see you do something productive. If you stick around, you'll understand why you got flamed to hell and back and you'll agree that you deserved it.

Check out some of the journals on here.....if you look at the sticky at the top of the training board, you'll see sample routines of members both 'on' and 'off'......I have a journal here.....so does blitz and Proto and just about everyone else who posted.....you can get some ideas from there....read the training sticky, and then ask any questions you may have.

 

[FFQuads]

Is it wrong to work out EOD on juice. Im currently not doing it this way, but I have been reading like 5 days should be taken off for recovery when doing mass workouts. Currently Im doing like 9 sets for chest at 6-8 reps each. Is this a good example I can use on other muscles. Im doing like 3 sets bench, 3 sets dumbells, and 3 sets incline. I used to work out every other day for years, but workout methods are different on juice? Is this right?? thanks in advance. Im running 500-600mg sustanon week, and 450mg deca durabollin week.

I tried this while on a big cycle and it worked great. I always liked to train Monday through Friday with one body part a day and KILL it. But the one on -one off works good as well. I would do 4 set 8-12 reps of - flat bench, incline DB, Decline DB, and peck-deck machine super-set with push-ups.

 

[Protobuilder]

how can you live with yourself?????

It's rough at times, but I've got plenty of Twinkies and strawberry milk (sweeted w/ sucralose, of course) to keep me happy. And I've had years of practice.


I'm here to help you know.

 

[Tweakle]

Ask in the roid forum, they'll have some great routine suggestions for you. A 5 on, one off split would be the norm, as every 180lb roid guru knows the gospel - "you can't overtrain on juice!"

you train exactly the same when on as off, the only difference is the weights are heavier. Or you piss away hundreds of dollars and risk potential health problems for nothing by doing the kind of limp-dick M&F split that is popular outside of this forum.

 

[casualbb]

Some good advice I heard from HST juicers:

When you combine good training with juice and good eating, the gains are huge, and they tend to support strength gains that can be dangerous.

So what those guys do is, they know what their maxes are before running the cycle. They'll run the weight progression until they hit their maxes and just stay there, not surpassing them. But they'll increase the reps as they can.

So they might end up doing like 15 rep sets with their previous 5RM. Then when they go off juice, they kick in the heavier weights with negatives and stuff. It's supposed to offset the typical muscle loss in PCT by also giving the muscles high stimulation from PR-level weights.

Oh, also you can work out as frequently as you feel you can recover. If you're on juice, why waste it.

i do however echo the others' concerns. We worry that someone who is asking such basic questions about training is similarly uninformed about proper steroid use, something that is definitely risky to play around with.

 

[Tweakle]

Then when they go off juice, they kick in the heavier weights with negatives and stuff.

sounds like a great way to get hurt, post cycle your injury risk is much higher & pushing it like that is a guarenteed way to blow something (almost every injury I've sustained has been a result of heavy training post cycle)


Steroids do NOT increase recovery ability much beyond what you already have, if you have a low-average recovery ability it is perfectly possible to overtrain very quickly even on large blast cycles.. it took me a long time to learn that lesson. Now I actually do fewer work sets because the load & intensity is higher and that means for a longer recovery.

I just noticed the poster is doing a gram a week.. nice starting dose!