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Burning_Inside

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I get no response to any question scientifically related whatsoever. It's all about layman's terms. If a question goes even the slightest bit scientific, forget it. Most people over here would jump on the questions I posted, however, the only response to the one question I posted, which took me 20 minutes to type out , recieved such a simple answer.."eat some protein before am cardio" or something similarly dimwitted. Patheticccccc
 
I hear that.

Bb.com is one of the few forums that I visited previous to this one. The older version was better, but now it has degenerated into the most piece of shit board ever. I think it is mostly because 95% of the active posters are bored teenagers who just want to play bodybuilder online, and they actively plagerize posts from this site also. The only reason I ever kept posting there was originally due to Big_Cat, one of the smarter members. He writes good articles for the site and has interesting self made steroid profiles. He doesn’t actively post anymore so the board is useless.
 
Does anybody like teens, other than other teens?

Generally they are the shitburger.
 
i've never been there but i ma sure that board is full of bombastic simpletons who still ask if it is ok to drink winny.
 
BodyBuilding.com is pretty disappointing.... The majority of it's members are between the ages of 3-13. Usually they'll ask "Is it ok to workout with stinky pampers?" or "Are Burt and Ernie real?" or "Man.... How do I get the chicks (man or dude)? Whoooo I really want some pussy (man or dude)! I'm tired of spanking my wee wee!" or "Par, if I rub 4-AD on my balls will it increase bioavailability?"

ETC ETC ETC ETC - It's more of a supplement board anyway where members get all excited and frothing at the mouth over 1-Test and other weak ugly cousins of real AAS.
 
saint808 said:
i've never been there but i ma sure that board is full of bombastic simpletons who still ask if it is ok to drink winny.

YOU CAN DRINK IT!??!!!
 
Tinee Tim said:


The supp board is pretty good, but I would hardly call 1-test weak. IMO

I piss more natural test per day than you get from 1-test in a year.
 
That voard does suck. People lie up the ying yang too.
Example " I deadlift 460 for 12 reps man and I'm only 15"
I saw another kid say he "preacher curls 140 pounds for 27 reps"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a load of bullshit.
 
i frequent the teen board over there, since i'm a teen.

a LOT of ignorant bastards. probably 99% of them.

elite is a lot better, but it's nice to discuss and debate with people my age over a lifestyle i love
 
jeremys said:
i frequent the teen board over there, since i'm a teen.

a LOT of ignorant bastards. probably 99% of them.

elite is a lot better, but it's nice to discuss and debate with people my age over a lifestyle i love

yea i post their occasionally (same handle). I don't think I will anymore though, as its completely retarded. Most of the kids there are either complete bullshitters or shit disturbers. Not to mention the selection of different threads consist of: Is creatine a steroid?, is creatine safe?, I'm fat as hell, will situps give me abs?, how do i get abs with 60%bf, or, can I get abs with creatine?

oh and if you don't praise pro-hormones as the next messiah, you'll be ostricized immediately.
 
WODIN said:


I piss more natural test per day than you get from 1-test in a year.

But can you say you drink more natural piss in a year than non-natural piss? :)

C-ditty
 
The training, diet, nutrition boards over at BB.com shit all over the EF boards.

I don't know about the Anabolics because i don't use, but some of the boards over there are far more informative than here.

I agree with the age thing though.
 
BB.com sucks. the forums are made of kids and idiots. Sadly, it used to be my main source of info.
 
smokinghawk said:
I like it that I don't have to buy a membership to see the jpegs that people post over there, though.

all i ever see are dudes 14 year old ugly ass g friend who take it in the ass all day long , fucking sluts. i hat the site hat it hat it hat it:mad:

it's dumb too
 
jeremys said:
i frequent the teen board over there, since i'm a teen.

a LOT of ignorant bastards. probably 99% of them.

elite is a lot better, but it's nice to discuss and debate with people my age over a lifestyle i love

Do we need a teen board?
 
vinylgroover said:
The training, diet, nutrition boards over at BB.com shit all over the EF boards.

I don't know about the Anabolics because i don't use, but some of the boards over there are far more informative than here.

I agree with the age thing though.

Tell me more about what they are doing right over there. Their site is the largest bodybuilding site on the Internet -- Elite is number 2. (FYI, we are both way ahead of Ironman, all the Weider bodybuilding sites, MuscleMag, etc.)

We are working on making Elite better, so let me have it.
 
vinylgroover said:
The training, diet, nutrition boards over at BB.com shit all over the EF boards.

there are far more informative than here.

i dont agree, sometimes (rarely) they may be better but inno way do they shit all over ef :goof: :goof: - i find little reason to go their . they have a good domain name
 
Bb.com is a good sight. Personally, I used to frequent that site before I found elite. But, I never joined or posted if that says anything. I found some good information and articles over there on a myriad of topics -routines, supplements, nutrition, AAS. But, like I said, they also have a lot of people that write articles for their site in regards to training and nutrition. Kelly Ryan comes to mind along with, ah shit, I can't remember others. Just my own humble opinion.


On Elite, more guest columns/ articles from familiar names and faces in the bodybuilding and fitness community covering nutrition, training, etc. that aren't necessarily "sales pitches" just informative in nature would be a good thing IMHO.

I understand this is a business operated to make a profit. I typically feel like EF is usually trying to sell me something though whenever reading articles, advertisements and bumping around the website. I personally don't always like to feel like I'm being sold to if that makes sense. And, I'm in sales and marketing for a finance company so I certainly understand that sales is the fundamental building block of any and all businesses.
 
notoriousQQ said:

But, like I said, they also have a lot of people that write articles for their site in regards to training and nutrition. Kelly Ryan comes to mind along with, ah shit, I can't remember others. Just my own humble opinion.


On Elite, more guest columns/ articles from familiar names and faces in the bodybuilding and fitness community covering nutrition, training, etc. that aren't necessarily "sales pitches" just informative in nature would be a good thing IMHO.

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guest columns would be a good idea, as long as ef didnt turn into flex mag. ie stupid bb routines and such. stick to knowlegable people, and not just reach out for names.:)
 
I like how EF tries to portray itself as a respectable online community, yet its mods post threads bashing other boards.
 
jeremys said:
i frequent the teen board over there, since i'm a teen.

a LOT of ignorant bastards. probably 99% of them.

elite is a lot better, but it's nice to discuss and debate with people my age over a lifestyle i love

Threads we might find on a teenage forum:

- "Poll: which of these groups kick is the coolest ? Backstreet Boys or Nsync ?"

- "Wow, just bought some new Phat farm pants"

- Hi I'm Laura, 13, my BF just fucked me in the ass, can I get pregnant ?"

- "Hey my pussy is bleeding, is that a female ejaculation ?"

- "wassup fools, I'm 16 and wondering if I should frontload test at 2 g/week, btw I'm 6'1, 150 lbs."

- "pics of my skinny skeleton in my new phat wifebeater"
 
spentagn said:
I like how EF tries to portray itself as a respectable online community, yet its mods post threads bashing other boards.

Well they is what they is and I'm entitled to post my opinion just as much as anyone not a mod is entitled to post theirs (within limits) on this chat board. Just because something is proclaimed a "respectable online community" or whatever doesn't mean kissing ass to other sites is a pre requisite. I mean, they sucked ass, really, from my experiences.
 
Burning_Inside said:
I get no response to any question scientifically related whatsoever. It's all about layman's terms. If a question goes even the slightest bit scientific, forget it. Most people over here would jump on the questions I posted, however, the only response to the one question I posted, which took me 20 minutes to type out , recieved such a simple answer.."eat some protein before am cardio" or something similarly dimwitted. Patheticccccc

i would have to agree... they do suck when it comes to information in most sections. It's like it has become a hangout or something like that. I used to answer questions all day long in the teen section about a year ago.... I was a moderator( thank god im not anymore)... i still help people outside the forums through email or AIM... but for the most part... i wont dare go in the teen section anymore because of the bullcrap.

and on top of that.. the moderators use and abuse their powers over there.. there are a couple on nice guys on that board that i really enjoy talking to .... im even going to go out to utah this summer to work for my friend dave who i met on the bb.com forums. but... it seems that the moderators on that board use their powers to settle personal problems they have with members. they suck at answering emails, PM's, etc... its almost a "i more mightier than you," attitude. who wants to be on a site like that??

the information does suck though.when i was a mod... there was actually an idea of having a test about bb that someone would have to pass before they could be a member... it was shot down.

so im looking around for other sites right now.. this one looks good... im ready to actually deal with people posses knowledge and can help me grow and i can help them grow. thats how we get better.

oh yes.... and you better believe that on bb.com right now they have a link to this exact thread.... and they are whining about it right now..... I even said "shows how great they are" in reference to the platnium membership on this site.... but then i look around..this site is good....lots of smart people... and we can all help eachother grow
 
gymrat said:
A board can only be as good as its members.

that is true... and that is the problem over there.. most of them are bunch of assclowns that dont know a polypeptide from pepsin.. "duh.. they both start with P!" most of the older members know what they are talking about... but most of the teens have no freaking idea what they are talking about... there are alot of smart teens though.

let me rephrase what you just said

" a board can only be as good as its members and moderators."

:D
 
George Spellwin said:
Tell me more about what they are doing right over there.

1. Site is free

2. No Advertising

3. No PM's asking you to go Platinum

4. Useful sticky threads unlike this "Announcement: February Bikini Babes: Cum and get um!"

5. No popups trying to sell me something I don't want

6. Faster server it doesn't take 5 mins to post

7. Did I mention they don't try and sell you stuff.
 
I'm comin here as a representative of bb.com.

The teen boards SUCK ASS. Period. 99% of posts there are either from kids who are too goddamn lazy to do a search or are posting bullshit lifts.

The steroid boards are awesome. Those guys are knowledgable and are cool as hell. Same with the powerlifting boards. I only stick around there because I'm sorta used to it, and once in a while something worth discussing pops up.

I've answered/seen questions related to creatine in juice, what steroids are best, and how to build xxx muscle so many times I could scream. I've also seen enough threads about Ronnie Coleman to fill up a damn novel (I'm actually a Ronnie fan from 99-2000, but it's just that there's TOO many stupid-ass questions about him).

I'm also sick of kids who think anything Arnie says is the final word. "Arnie used to do that!" as if he was the most knowledgable man in bodybuilding ever.

There's a small portion of us floating around on those boards that aren't complete idiots, and lately we don't contribute as much as we did. I've seen SO many 15-16 year olds claiming world-record lifts it's not even funny.

Wooo, and I'm done ranting.
 
ZachG_85 said:
I'm comin here as a representative of bb.com.

The teen boards SUCK ASS. Period. 99% of posts there are either from kids who are too goddamn lazy to do a search or are posting bullshit lifts.

The steroid boards are awesome. Those guys are knowledgable and are cool as hell. Same with the powerlifting boards. I only stick around there because I'm sorta used to it, and once in a while something worth discussing pops up.

I've answered/seen questions related to creatine in juice, what steroids are best, and how to build xxx muscle so many times I could scream. I've also seen enough threads about Ronnie Coleman to fill up a damn novel (I'm actually a Ronnie fan from 99-2000, but it's just that there's TOO many stupid-ass questions about him).

I'm also sick of kids who think anything Arnie says is the final word. "Arnie used to do that!" as if he was the most knowledgable man in bodybuilding ever.

There's a small portion of us floating around on those boards that aren't complete idiots, and lately we don't contribute as much as we did. I've seen SO many 15-16 year olds claiming world-record lifts it's not even funny.

Wooo, and I'm done ranting.

for people who dont know... this is one of the most knowledgable teens at bb.com... i respect zach for his info... and the cool thing is.. he doenst pretend to know everything... he is willing to learn... and i like that... we all can learn.. learning never stops
 
Im a PT so just ask me and I will makeyou gro wlike a growing machine.

Do you know the diff3ernece betweenincline becnsh and falt?
 
Boss101 said:


1. Site is free

2. No Advertising

3. No PM's asking you to go Platinum

4. Useful sticky threads unlike this "Announcement: February Bikini Babes: Cum and get um!"

5. No popups trying to sell me something I don't want

6. Faster server it doesn't take 5 mins to post

7. Did I mention they don't try and sell you stuff.

They probably don't have over a million searchable pages of knowledgeable info on anabolics, training and diet. I wager to say you can't have your own hosted website there. I'm also willing to say that you can't store pictures on their site either.

C-ditty
 
Burning_Inside said:
I just went over there and posted an explanation. I should hope everything will be fine now.

BI.. you don't have to explain nothing to me or anyone else. If it is your opinion, it is your opinion... I remember bashing the crap out of IBLiftin... because over half their members are banned.

The thing is, even if a site has an overwhelming amount of retards, it is probably going to have at LEAST a few guys that know their shit. There are some people here that give advice on some topics they probably shouldn't... but for the most part, there are alot of informative bros/sistas on this site.

C-ditty
 
ZachG_85 said:
I'm comin here as a representative of bb.com.

The teen boards SUCK ASS. Period. 99% of posts there are either from kids who are too goddamn lazy to do a search or are posting bullshit lifts.

The steroid boards are awesome. Those guys are knowledgable and are cool as hell. Same with the powerlifting boards. I only stick around there because I'm sorta used to it, and once in a while something worth discussing pops up.

I've answered/seen questions related to creatine in juice, what steroids are best, and how to build xxx muscle so many times I could scream. I've also seen enough threads about Ronnie Coleman to fill up a damn novel (I'm actually a Ronnie fan from 99-2000, but it's just that there's TOO many stupid-ass questions about him).

I'm also sick of kids who think anything Arnie says is the final word. "Arnie used to do that!" as if he was the most knowledgable man in bodybuilding ever.

There's a small portion of us floating around on those boards that aren't complete idiots, and lately we don't contribute as much as we did. I've seen SO many 15-16 year olds claiming world-record lifts it's not even funny.

Wooo, and I'm done ranting.

You can come here and become a teen phenom like Mustang_18, Frackal or others. :)

C-ditty
 
Citruscide said:


They probably don't have over a million searchable pages of knowledgeable info on anabolics, training and diet. I wager to say you can't have your own hosted website there. I'm also willing to say that you can't store pictures on their site either.

C-ditty

You can store pictures on the site, infact a number of people who have wanted to show thier pictures to people on elite have posted pics in the forum then linked them over here.
 
I imagine by now everyones over there posting jibberish as to why I'm not allowed to a: have an opinion, and b: have a bad opinion on the site at that, and picking apart every little thing I said in my post and finding anything...like the sun and the moon..wrong with it. My first experience over there sucked. I voiced my opinion. Too bad for them. Any of you guys..if you ever have a bad first time experience in something..Do you usually complain about it amongst friends?? Do you usually NOT go back? I imagine they will be making accounts and coming over here and startin poo poo.
 
Burning_Inside said:
I imagine by now everyones over there posting jibberish as to why I'm not allowed to a: have an opinion, and b: have a bad opinion on the site at that, and picking apart every little thing I said in my post and finding anything...like the sun and the moon..wrong with it. My first experience over there sucked. I voiced my opinion. Too bad for them. Any of you guys..if you ever have a bad first time experience in something..Do you usually complain about it amongst friends?? Do you usually NOT go back? I imagine they will be making accounts and coming over here and startin poo poo.

yep.. bump... i have just decided not to respond... and if i feel the need to say something to one of them.. i will do it through PM's..
 
a teen board would be nice, but of course there's pros and cons.

aren't the anabolic discussions hypothetical and strictly for entertainment anyways? :)

there's always a lot of dumb shits. isn't that what mods are for? if they become a problem, ban their ass.

i've learned everything i've ever known from this site. it's helped me greatly. at 15, i'm bigger (also fatter) than a lot of people on here.

there's always at least a couple of us that are goldmines when it comes to discussions,questions, info, and a vast number of members means more contributions to threads regarding anecdotal evidence of things, etc.
 
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Our teens are more mature than the average teen... we breed men over here. :)

C-ditty
 
LMAO @ bb.com

bigliftsCNU said:
for people who dont know... this is one of the most knowledgable teens at bb.com... i respect zach for his info... and the cool thing is.. he doenst pretend to know everything... he is willing to learn... and i like that... we all can learn.. learning never stops
That's not saying much! I've butted heads with Zach and the other teens over there too many times to count. A teen just can't seem to gracefully bow out of an argument, even when proven wrong, and Zach is no exception. Zach is 16 years old, and spends time in the steroid and misc sections mostly. And Joe, (16 as well) I've never seen you outside of the misc section, whining about why you were robbed of post count, or why the mods pick on you, or why black people talk funny and treat you so mean. I was a vet in supps over there until they started banning some of the most knowledgeable vets on the board, and the rest of us migrated elsewhere. From what I could see, you never posted any advice. Time to grow up and stop whining, Joe.

Burning Inside, you are right. BB.com has become a joke, and nearly every knowledgeable vet is now gone, leaving teens advising teens. I go over there every now and then for a good laugh. :D :D :D
 
George Spellwin said:


Tell me more about what they are doing right over there. Their site is the largest bodybuilding site on the Internet -- Elite is number 2. (FYI, we are both way ahead of Ironman, all the Weider bodybuilding sites, MuscleMag, etc.)

We are working on making Elite better, so let me have it.

I don't think it's a case of what they are doing right, but rather, the members seem more willing to participate on the various boards there than members here do. You get a much wider cross-section of opinion and advice that way.

they don't have as many moderators over there, but the one's they do have tend to have more specialist knowledge in particular areas than the moderators here do, anabolics aside.

Their nutrition/diet boards have some very good, knowledgable moderators on there and members who give good info. The diet boards here are substandard. Aside from Mr X, no one here really sees to have much idea as far as diet/nutrition goes.

I think it's up to members themseves here, to participate on more boards and help out a bit more.....make it a truly interactive site. And perhaps select moderators based on their knowledge rather than some arbitrary favouratism.
 
bigliftsCNU said:


for people who dont know... this is one of the most knowledgable teens at bb.com... i respect zach for his info... and the cool thing is.. he doenst pretend to know everything... he is willing to learn... and i like that... we all can learn.. learning never stops


Thanks Hagymania:nopity: :D
 
Citruscide said:


They probably don't have over a million searchable pages of knowledgeable info on anabolics, training and diet. I wager to say you can't have your own hosted website there. I'm also willing to say that you can't store pictures on their site either.

C-ditty


At least they don't have to pay to see the pics.
 
Re: Re: LMAO @ bb.com

LethalGunz34 said:



John, Hagy's 19 but he does sound like a 16 year old:D

:rolleyes: yall need to come off it... you know damn well that i helped my share of teens over there and i am pretty knowledgable.. i just got burned out over all the crap in the teen section... so i decided just to post in the misc section... big cat wouldnt have ASKED me to join the HH if he didnt see potential in me... and by looking at my pics from age 16 only after a year of training... you should see that i do have potential.
 
Burning_Inside said:


Well they is what they is and I'm entitled to post my opinion just as much as anyone not a mod is entitled to post theirs (within limits) on this chat board. Just because something is proclaimed a "respectable online community" or whatever doesn't mean kissing ass to other sites is a pre requisite. I mean, they sucked ass, really, from my experiences.

Uh-huh. And Charles Barkeley isn't a role model.

In my experience, you suck ass, and so does platinum. Do I get banned now?
 
Citruscide said:


They probably don't have over a million searchable pages of knowledgeable info on anabolics, training and diet. I wager to say you can't have your own hosted website there. I'm also willing to say that you can't store pictures on their site either.

C-ditty

Maybe you should checkout the site and see for yourself. You can store pictures on bb.com or are you talking about the gallery here :rolleyes: you could always store pics on geocities for FREE.
 
Re: LMAO @ bb.com

John Benz said:

That's not saying much! I've butted heads with Zach and the other teens over there too many times to count. A teen just can't seem to gracefully bow out of an argument, even when proven wrong, and Zach is no exception. Zach is 16 years old, and spends time in the steroid and misc sections mostly. And Joe, (16 as well) I've never seen you outside of the misc section, whining about why you were robbed of post count, or why the mods pick on you, or why black people talk funny and treat you so mean. I was a vet in supps over there until they started banning some of the most knowledgeable vets on the board, and the rest of us migrated elsewhere. From what I could see, you never posted any advice. Time to grow up and stop whining, Joe.

Burning Inside, you are right. BB.com has become a joke, and nearly every knowledgeable vet is now gone, leaving teens advising teens. I go over there every now and then for a good laugh. :D :D :D

17, thanks :D

And no need for the personal attacks, bro. You do that a lot and it hurts me on the inside.
 
Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. I agree the teen board sucks over on bb.com, lots of childish behavior....however there are some very intelligent cats over on the steroid board. No matter what board you go to, you will get mostly dumbasses, I mean the general population is not too bright. Just depends on what you focus on....I mean if I wanted to I could find negative aspects for every board out there. But it makes more sense to frequent many boards and take advantage of the benefits each has to offer.

Peace
 
McBane said:
Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. I agree the teen board sucks over on bb.com, lots of childish behavior....however there are some very intelligent cats over on the steroid board. No matter what board you go to, you will get mostly dumbasses, I mean the general population is not too bright. Just depends on what you focus on....I mean if I wanted to I could find negative aspects for every board out there. But it makes more sense to frequent many boards and take advantage of the benefits each has to offer.

Peace

your right.. about 8 months ago.. i just got fed up with it. there was sooooo much bull crap. I was helping this kid who wasnt very popular and was overweight, got him involved in sports, and on a regular lifting and cardio schedule... cleaned up his diet, and he took no suppliments except for a mulit.... and he finally got down to a point where i would say he was at 9-10%. the whole procedure was going to be posted on the bb.com mainpage as a transformation process... but we decided not to send it in. i still talk to the kid all the time... I talk to alot of teens online from bb.com.......... kids who have ?'s..or just want to discuss their problems....... i also have the SN's of older guys who i can learn from.

your right.....bb.com has lots of postive aspects... alot of smart people are on that boad, but some have big heads......but the teen section is crap.....and it eventually drove me to just want to only post in the misc section for a long time..

time for a board change :D
 
Please post how you helped him here. We would like to read about it.
 
George Spellwin said:
Please post how you helped him here. We would like to read about it.

Joe (BigliftsCNU) is one of bb.com’s resident MORONS. He, and others like him, are what ruined an otherwise decent forum. His immaturity is overshadowed only by his blatant racism.

Here is a link to BigliftsCNU’s picture. You tell me if you think he could “help” someone reduce his or her body fat to the 9% range. If he possesses this vast array of knowledge, don’t you think, just maybe, he’d apply some of it to his own physique?? He posted some more recent pictures, but they were equally disappointing.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=50172

Due to its large volume of traffic, bb.com has potential. The first step in maximizing its potential is to rid the forums of idiots like Joe.
 
OneHungLowe said:


Joe (BigliftsCNU) is one of bb.com’s resident MORONS. He, and others like him, are what ruined an otherwise decent forum. His immaturity is overshadowed only by his blatant racism.

Here is a link to BigliftsCNU’s picture. You tell me if you think he could “help” someone reduce his or her body fat to the 9% range. If he possesses this vast array of knowledge, don’t you think, just maybe, he’d apply some of it to his own physique?? He posted some more recent pictures, but they were equally disappointing.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=50172

Due to its large volume of traffic, bb.com has potential. The first step in maximizing its potential is to rid the forums of idiots like Joe.

obviously this is an idiot from bb.com that has only been registered for the last couple of months... I helped lots of people with their diet, physiques, etc... my other name over there was joehagyHH. obviously this person doesnt know that.. all my posts on bigliftsCNU have been in the misc section........... with my other name... i helped lots of people. Big Cat, a person that some speak highly of over here, invited me to join a group called the HellHearts or the HH.... it was a group of individuals who possesed knowledge ( for me.. i was just starting, but had the ability to learn and grow even more) who would help run the board and make sure no false information was given out.. and to really help people on the boards. so that is why the HH is on the end of my name.

FIRST OFF... the picture this person provided was me at age 16 after only a YEAR of training. i was about 165 before i started lifting.. and in those pics i was round 240-245 lbs. Now i dont know about any of yall... but after a year of training, i would like to think i look good. so basically this is me.. 3 FREAKING YEARS AGO!!! as for what i look like... yes i have some fat on me... but that is because i was bulking for goodness sake... i have som pics from that same photo shoot 3 years ago that can show you my bodyfat was no higher than 15%. it looks higher in that pic... but i think the lighting really screwed in the pic..... but the point is... after a year of training, learning on my own, through trial and error... i would like to think i did okay.

as for my other pics.. the ones i recently posted...... for lats.. i used the hammer strength machine( you just add 45's plates , just like on a olympic bar).... and i can do 325 or so for 10 reps on that machine... on a reg lat pull machine.. im up to 285 for 10 reps.... so one day in the gym... i was using the hack squat machine for squats... some guy wanted to work in with me.. and started doing calve raises on them... so i tried them.. and worked with him.... and i could really feel the movement.. and my calves were totally shocked... so then like the next week, i maxed out on these two lifts and i was really excited with my results... so i shared it with my FRIENDS on bb.com... well there were people who didnt believe me, and wanted proof... so i took some pics. when they saw the pics... instead of saying " you did what you said you could do" they said.... " oh those are machines.. it doesnt matter."- when all along they knew the movements were on machines...


i offered to post pics of me benching 225 19 times....... but unless i post a video somehow.... no one will believe me


this is why i didnt post my pictures on bb.com for the longest time... i didnt post that picture of me at age 16 till i was 18... because EVERYONE MAKES SUCH A DAMN BIG DEAL ABOUT PICS... AND FOR SOME REASON.. THEY THINK THE BIGGER YOU ARE.. THE SMARTER YOU ARE. its bullcrap! your size doesnt determine your knowledge
 
George Spellwin said:
Please post how you helped him here. We would like to read about it.

well he sent me pics of himself and his stats. so what i did is worked with his height and weight and developed how many calories he should be taking in and what %( carb/fat/protein). this kid was lazy... somehow i had to motivate him to become more physically active and socially active. I worked on a cardio and lifting schedule for him... i worked it out so he could have one day off. his cardio schedule was for 25 mins the first 2 weeks.. then it was increased to 35.... and so on and so on till he could do a full hour of non stop cardio vascular.. i explained to him what this would do, how it would effect his body,etc. i had him doing cardio 4 times a week first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. like i was saying.. he didnt take any suppliments so i didnt have him on a fat preserving suppliment like glutamine.this kid was more intrested in getting inshape or "ripped" as he liked to say.... his lifting schedule was 4 times a week as well.. upper body- lower body- upper body- lower body.... rep range was 12-15. i talked to him about recovery, nutrition, training, etc..... at first he lost 3-4 lbs the first week.. that was expected... then on, he was only losing about 1-1.5 lbs a week.....which is good, cause anymore, and he would be losing muscle. there was a point, where he was experiencing some aneorixic( sp?) tendencies, and lost 5lbs in one week....... i explained to him.. that probably 4 lbs of that was muscle... so that cleared up that situation. so as he progressed, he sent me new pics... i was very postitive, because i saw definate changes... and it was important for me to be positive cause he was negative.. he didnt see any changes... i explained to him that it was cuase he saw his body EVERYDAY. i didnt... so as he progressed... i tweeked his diet and training, as his bodyweight decreased. and at the end of 14 weeks.. i sent him an email with his original pic and his last pic at week 14.... and the only thing i typed in the subject was " LOOK" with a big smiley face. i really think it made his day.

as for his social life... i got him into sports.... he choose lacrosse, an excellent sport. lots of running, and lots of friendships he could develope. as being an overweight child and a kid who didnt have alot of friends( nobody wnats to be friends with a county hick/ redneck), i really felt like i was not only helping him, but helping myself. and the point where i really felt happy for him, is when he told me he was going to go out on his first date on a friday night of that week.

so thats the general idea of what we went through... alot of motivation... alot of change, and alot of hard work on both sides....... but in the end.. it was worth it.


which leads me to my next project......... myself getting down to 9-10 % before our first match in tennis... as well as helping a fellow teamate getting down to that same bf before the end of the season... and helping another teamate add some lean muscle
 
Citruscide said:


But can you say you drink more natural piss in a year than non-natural piss? :)

C-ditty

Well never know the answer to this one....
 
bigliftsCNU said:

i worked it out so he could have one day off. his cardio schedule was for 25 mins the first 2 weeks.. then it was increased to 35.... and so on and so on till he could do a full hour of non stop cardio vascular.. i explained to him what this would do, how it would effect his body,etc. i had him doing cardio 4 times a week first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. like i was saying.. he didnt take any suppliments so i didnt have him on a fat preserving suppliment like glutamine.this kid was more intrested in getting inshape or "ripped" as he liked to say.... his lifting schedule was 4 times a week as well.. upper body- lower body- upper body- lower body.... rep range was 12-15.

So, you had this poor kid doing 1 hour of cardio training 4 mornings a week on an empty stomach, in addition to lifting both upper and lower body twice per week each with a rep range of 12-15. We all know high reps help "tone," right?
Poor kid must have been as catabolic as someone in a concentration camp.

Anyway, I'm sure the fine folks over here at elite would rather hear fingernails on a chalboard than have one of their threads morph into a "Hagy Schoolyard Name Calling 'Fest." Out of respect for them, this will be my last post. I just wanted to give them a fair warning about what a fool you are, that you're a racist, and your "advice" is more worthless than tits on a nun.
 
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OneHungLowe said:


So, you had this poor kid doing 1 hour of cardio training 4 mornings a week on an empty stomach, in addition to lifting both upper and lower body twice per week each with a rep range of 12-15. We all know high reps help "tone," right?
Poor kid must have been as catabolic as someone in a concentration camp.

Anyway, I'm sure the fine folks over here at elite would rather hear fingernails on a chalboard than have one of their threads morph into a "Hagy Schoolyard Name Calling 'Fest." Out of respect for them, this will be my last post. I just wanted to give them a fair warning about what a fool you are, that you're a racist, and your "advice" is more worthless than tits on a nun.

whatever ass clown... im not wasting my time on you

i dont know the specifics of the kid.. i dont remember how many calories he was taking in, his weight, etc... but all i know is that he got great results.. and i used the information that i have learned and helped him out alot... so shut your hole
 
OneHungLowe said:


So, you had this poor kid doing 1 hour of cardio training 4 mornings a week on an empty stomach, in addition to lifting both upper and lower body twice per week each with a rep range of 12-15. We all know high reps help "tone," right?
Poor kid must have been as catabolic as someone in a concentration camp.....

Did you advise this? If you don't remember specifically, is this something you'd advise someone to do?
 
gymtime said:


Did you advise this? If you don't remember specifically, is this something you'd advise someone to do?

i didnt have the kid doing cardio.. THEN lifting... 2 days out of the week, he did both on the same day... but his cardio was in the morning on an empty stomach( if he couldnt do it, he would have a glass of oj or something)... afterwards, he would hydrate himself and grab something to eat.... later on in the day, he would lift... about 1-1.5 hours before he would have a pre workout meal... i had him eating 5-6 smaller meals a day. about half way through, he did start using protein powder, so i adjusted his diet accordingly.

im sorry if i made it sound like he was doing cardio AND lifting on an empty stomach

now i dont know if this kid followed everything exactly.... i told him... that if he thought he found something else to add or subtract that he thought would work better... then he was more than welcome.. cause he is the one who knows his body the best
 
It's irrelevant whether or not he lifted immediately following his cardio. What's the logic behind having a complete novice perform 1 hour of cardio on an an empty stomach four times a week? What's the logic in having him perform 2 lower body and 2 upper body workouts per week. What's the logic in having him perform 12-15 reps? Are you saying that high rep workouts "tone" muscles? That high reps "bring out the cuts?" These are my points exactly. You don't know enough to make a physique change on your own body (see the posted pics, and the ones of you on bb.com wearing a sweatshirt to hide your obese body). You have no business advising anyone else how to change theirs. It's irresponsible.
 
OneHungLowe said:
It's irrelevant whether or not he lifted immediately following his cardio. What's the logic behind having a complete novice perform 1 hour of cardio on an an empty stomach four times a week? What's the logic in having him perform 2 lower body and 2 upper body workouts per week. What's the logic in having him perform 12-15 reps? Are you saying that high rep workouts "tone" muscles? That high reps "bring out the cuts?" These are my points exactly. You don't know enough to make a physique change on your own body (see the posted pics, and the ones of you on bb.com wearing a sweatshirt to hide your obese body). You have no business advising anyone else how to change theirs. It's irresponsible.

Hmmmm....well, if this is true, I wish biglifts good luck on the Training board. We tend to be a tad unforgiving over there :) .
 
gymtime said:


Hmmmm....well, if this is true, I wish biglifts good luck on the Training board. We tend to be a tad unforgiving over there :) .

Oh, if he sticks around long enough, you'll see more outrageous shit than that out of biglifts. We all know that bb.com is full of teens that talk out of their ass. Well, knowing that, realize that over there, they've had all they can stand of bigliftsCNU. In a sea of idiots, he stands tall as a laughing stock. Why do you think he's taken up residence over here??
 
OneHungLowe said:
It's irrelevant whether or not he lifted immediately following his cardio. What's the logic behind having a complete novice perform 1 hour of cardio on an an empty stomach four times a week? What's the logic in having him perform 2 lower body and 2 upper body workouts per week. What's the logic in having him perform 12-15 reps? Are you saying that high rep workouts "tone" muscles? That high reps "bring out the cuts?" These are my points exactly. You don't know enough to make a physique change on your own body (see the posted pics, and the ones of you on bb.com wearing a sweatshirt to hide your obese body). You have no business advising anyone else how to change theirs. It's irresponsible.

you obviously didnt see where i said he started out at 25 mins... and he worked his way up.... and it was only the last 2 weeks( more like 1.5 weeks) of his 14 week transformation that he did cardio for an hour.

obese??? hahaha hardly. let me post another pic from the same photo shoot OVER 3 years ago.. and maybe you will see its the lighting... remember.. i had only been training for one year before those pictures from a weight of 160 lbs... oh yes.. jackass.... I WAS BULKING!!!!

i thought you said the post before this was your last one? :rolleyes:

you an idiot... and if you have anything else to say... you can say it to me on a thread i started on bb.com or on PM on bb.com... dont trash this board with your bullshit

and if this is who i think it is... assclown is a fitting name for you
 
gymtime said:


Hmmmm....well, if this is true, I wish biglifts good luck on the Training board. We tend to be a tad unforgiving over there :) .

i dont see a problem here... this kid was a beginner... he was circuit training his lower and upper body and his cardio was moderate. i mean... this wasnt a complicated diet workout schedule... ala chad nichols or somethign... this was to get this guy out there and exercising... it was very basic..

.... at first...the kid was circuit training 2 a week and doing cardio 2 a week from what i remember... and then we worked up to 4 times a week for each... do i know he did it??? no.. he said he did.. for all i know.. he did his 2 a week for both cardio and lifting.
 
OneHungLowe said:


Oh, if he sticks around long enough, you'll see more outrageous shit than that out of biglifts. We all know that bb.com is full of teens that talk out of their ass. Well, knowing that, realize that over there, they've had all they can stand of bigliftsCNU. In a sea of idiots, he stands tall as a laughing stock. Why do you think he's taken up residence over here??

what bullshit?? i didnt post outside the misc section of bb.com for the past 8 months or so.. cause i got so fed up with it. i took up residence here to get and share info........... im still on the misc section of bb.com.... frankly im getting sick of assclowns like you... i have lots of friends on bb.com..

now... lets take this to PM on bb.com or on my thread on bb.com
 
So yes or no.....did you recommend four days of am/empty stomach hour-long cardio? Even if he had to work up to it?
 
gymtime said:
So yes or no.....did you recommend four days of am/empty stomach hour-long cardio? Even if he had to work up to it?

yah i guess i did... not right away...i recommend he drink some sort of juice before cardio this long.. i know i do.
 
gymtime said:
So yes or no.....did you recommend four days of am/empty stomach hour-long cardio? Even if he had to work up to it?

yah i guess i did... not right away...i recommend he drink some sort of juice before cardio this long.. i know i do.

i told him not to have anything before... like 25-35 minutes of cardio... when he hit 40... i said that he might want to drink some type of juice
 
OneHungLowe said:


You talking about these?? Looks like more "bad lighting." Don't all bodybuilders workout in a baggy sweatshirt? Nah, just those that are fat in the arse.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?threadid=80048&highlight=joe*

we will see.. i think im going to see henry( spartanhuge) sometime this spring..even after losing strength for tennis... i still bet you ill throw up over 300 on the bench.. just for you rottie... or should i say assclown
 
distanced said:
IT SAYS HE'S BANNED OVER THERE.

THEY MUST HAVE GOTTEN SICK OF HIS LIES AND BIG MOUTH

He's actually been banned over there under about 10 different names. I'm sure my posts seem somewhat inflamatory, but I wanted to make sure you good bros understood what kind of lying fool you were dealing with. When you build a reputation like biglifts has, you shouldn't be able to just start fresh by joining another board.
 
bigliftsCNU said:


yah i guess i did... not right away...i recommend he drink some sort of juice before cardio this long.. i know i do.

i told him not to have anything before... like 25-35 minutes of cardio... when he hit 40... i said that he might want to drink some type of juice

Are you at all familiar with the catabolic effects of cardio vasucular excercise performed by people who have not eaten for nine hours or more? No wonder he transformed.

I would suggest you do some reading up on this.
 
Boss101 said:


Yeah that's the thread bro brings back some laughs. I remember Hagy saying his delts look like "cannonballs" in the cable curl pic must be that bad lighting.

That "bad lighting" gets me every time. In a well lit room, I sport 20" arms and a 32" waist. Get me in some "poor lighting" and the waist balloons while the arms shrink. It's nothing short of amazing. ;)
 
Boss101 said:


Yeah that's the thread bro brings back some laughs. I remember Hagy saying his delts look like "cannonballs" in the cable curl pic must be that bad lighting.

well lets see.... mine look okay when i was 16... ill see if i can drag up some old pics...i dont think they would get worse :rolleyes:
 
YOU ARE A SAD INDIVIDUAL

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I SAW SOMEONE IN MY GYM WITH "BODYBUILDING.COM" ON THE BACK OF THEIR SHIRT. GUESS HE IS ON THAT BOARD.





KAYNE
 
distanced said:
YOU ARE A SAD INDIVIDUAL

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explain to me how i am an assclown? you dont even know me... this individual is probably rottie( who is a real assclown) or shot... both whom i owned on bb.com... they are full of shit
 
no I'm not that guy, but out of my boredum today I read about three hours worth of flames on you. it was quite funny to see how many names you were banned using because you're such a liar!!

you, my young padawan learer, are an ASSCLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
distanced said:
no I'm not that guy, but out of my boredum today I read about three hours worth of flames on you. it was quite funny to see how many names you were banned using because you're such a liar!!

you, my young padawan learer, are an ASSCLOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

first off.. that stat is misleading... i only had two names that were really banned... joehagyHH with like 6300 posts and bigliftsCNU that had 9600 posts. the other 6 or 7 were names i made up after i was banned to continue posting and the same mod banned them too... i only had liek 1 or 2 posts on each name.

im a liar??? prove it then... i have backed up everything i have ever said
 
YOUR BIGGEST LIE SO FAR WAS THE WHOLE 15% BF THING

TRY 22-25. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU LATER GOT TO 265LBS, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN 30%
 
distanced said:
YOUR BIGGEST LIE SO FAR WAS THE WHOLE 15% BF THING

TRY 22-25. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU LATER GOT TO 265LBS, YOU MUST HAVE BEEN 30%

like i said.. let me find another pic from the same photo shoot.... and i will show you.. that it is around 15%
 
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