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Blut Wumps Another 25

Daily Weigh-In

125.2 Kg - 275.4 lbs (today)
124.8 Kg - 274.5 lbs (Thursday)
124.6 Kg - 274.1 lbs (Wednesday)
125.2 Kg - 275.4 lbs (Tuesday)
125.2 Kg - 275.4 lbs (Monday)
126.8 Kg - 279.0 lbs (Sunday)

I'm not sure these daily weights are worth the time it takes to type them. I knew last Sunday was anomalous and worth a follow-up but do these really tell anyone anything? I've always been able to change my weight by a pound or two from day to day.
 
Sometimes in the mornings i can weigh 15 stone 7 which = around 220 lbs then in the evening before bed i can weigh 16 stone 1 which = 225 lbs , lol. Your weigh in comparison tells me that you lost some weight for a few days then put a tiny bit back on again. I would prefer to see your dailey weigh in comparison along with your dailey meal plan.
 
Well, I have that aspect covered by taking the weight reading at the same stage each day. I've had water and coffee and go for my daily movement and get weighed so food for that day doesn't cloud the issue; just the previous day's food.

I expected to be heavier today since I gorged on cheesy pasta last night.

The way I see it, which might be wrong, I eat enough food without thinking about it to support the bulk of a reasonably meaty 19 and a half stone male at high teens bodyfat. I don't eat any junk food except of my own creation except a pizza every couple of months or so. Aside from that I get three or four food meals a day, always with a decent protein component (tuna, chicken, pork, lambs' liver, eggs, cheese), plus a couple of protein shakes and a couple of litres of milk. I don't keep closer track on my food than that, really.

There's chocolate, too, of course.
 
My weight goes up gradually during the day, then the weight fairy comes during the night and takes it all away again. My day to day weight changes fluctuate a lot less if I eat and drink the same things from day to day.

You still haven't said whether you're actually trying to lose weight.
 
anotherbutters said:
My weight goes up gradually during the day, then the weight fairy comes during the night and takes it all away again. My day to day weight changes fluctuate a lot less if I eat and drink the same things from day to day.

You still haven't said whether you're actually trying to lose weight.
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I have odd days when I decide to lose some weight. On those days, I'll avoid flour and evening carbs and leave a good three hours after my evening meal before my bedtime shake. Sometimes, I string a few of those days together.

Aside from that, I just keep an eye on my weight to see how it's doing. I go more by how I'm feeling than the weight, as such. Only a bodybuilder would call me fat, I think, but I do have a lot of gut which I could probably do with losing. I just don't yet feel pressed to do anything about it.
 
blut wump said:
I'm not sure these daily weights are worth the time it takes to type them. I knew last Sunday was anomalous and worth a follow-up but do these really tell anyone anything? I've always been able to change my weight by a pound or two from day to day.
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When I suggested daily weighing, I meant it as something for your personal reference rather than a daily journal feature. Their benefit is just to provide a few more data points to look at when you do the Sunday weight update if it seems like the weight on that day is unrepresentative.
 
Week 4 Day 3

Not a bad workout. PRs all round.

Intending to attempt 140 (3 plates) for 5 on squats, I just bumped all the work sets by 5Kg from last week. The 125 proved a little wobbly so I was worried about the 140 and considered 137.5. I reckoned the worst that could happen was that I'd need the supports so went for three plates. The last rep was a bit grunty but otherwise solid and I don't really remember the others. I had someone walk up and congratulate me on the set and on my form, which was nice. 140x5 PR

We got chatting and he used to be a powerlifter and is starting to get back into it after a long layoff. This guy has a back of iron. His squats are mostly GMs and I saw him deadlift 200Kg (440lbs) without any leg action except to straighten at lockout. They were basically bent legged SLDL.

The first three bench sets were straight forward. The last rep of the 4th set was a grind. After a decent rest I got another set. The last rep was mostly down to focus and getting to lockout before my head exploded. 117.5x5x5 PR

Not much to report on the rows. Hard work and I kept thinking on G5.0's advice about keeping a bellyful of air on each rep. It helps a lot. Form felt solid. 105x5x5 PR

I didn't fancy side bends as I had a twinge in my back so skipped them.

Reverse hypers gave me a chance to stretch out my back which felt good. I still didn't fancy the side bends.

I'm going to deload next week and then start a fresh loading phase. I'll probably use this week's weights plus a shade through next week for triples since I'm clearly getting stronger week by week at the moment. I might even throw in some biceps work which I've neglected slightly since last August. By all accounts, the gear should be kicking in with full force over the next week or two, too.


Total workout time: around 1hr 30m

Weights in Kilos, previous weeks in orange.
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 80x5, 90x5, 105x5, 120x5
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 70x5, 85x5, 100x5, 115x5, 130x5
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 75x5, 90x5, 105x5, 120x5, 135x5
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 80x5, 95x5, 110x5, 125x5, 140x5
Bench
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 80x3N, 105x5x5 WSNSW
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 80x3W, 100x2W, 110x5x5 W
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 80x3W, 100x2W, 115x5x5 W, 80x10 for 2 sets NN
20x10N, 40x10S, 60x5W, 80x3S, 105x2W, 117.5x5x5 W
BB Row
20x10, 60x5, 80x5, 90x5x5
20x10, 60x5, 80x3, 100x5x5
20x10, 60x5, 80x3, 102.5x5x5
20x10, 60x5, 85x4, 105x5x5
DB Side Bend
45x8, 60x8 for 3 sets
55x8, 65x8 for 3 sets
55x8, 70x8 for 3 sets
None - Back didn't feel up to it
Reverse Hypers
15x4
None, I forgot them. :(
15 x 5 sets
15 x 5 sets
 
Congrats on the awesome workout, hitting all your weights in Week 4 Day 3 is the stuff. Always nice to recieve a compliment since most gym goers probably don't know how hard it is to get ATF on a squat.

So what do you expect when running the 2nd volume phase? You'll deload next week. Then week 1b of volume you'll drop the weights back down to maybe week 2a weights and ramp from there? Do you anticipate any loading effects from your first run through to have any effect?
 
It's all new territory from here. I'm hoping that my enhanced single week of deload will be plenty.

I was planning, as you estimated, around 2a weights for 1b, which will effectively extend the deloading since that shouldn't be a big effort. After that it's just guesswork; maybe an average of 3a and 4a for 2b or, maybe, I should shoot for new PRs in week 2b and keep trying for ever newer PRs in 3b and 4b. The front squats will probably go but I haven't decided yet.

I'm thinking of running four weeks of loading rather than the three I'd originally intended. To tell the truth, I'm a bit lost in not knowing what to expect and will play it by ear. I don't want to risk going too easy on myself but I don't want to break anything either. I'm kind of dreading BiggT or Madcow stepping in and saying 'Keep loading for another two weeks". ;)

The guy was a real joy to chat with and real old-school, or new-school depending on how you look at it, in his workouts. His eyes practically lit up when I told him I do bent rows and hardly ever work biceps. He'd fit right in here.
 
Jim Ouini said:
Always nice to recieve a compliment since most gym goers probably don't know how hard it is to get ATF on a squat.
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I always give people props when I see them doing a full ATF squat. but unfortunately it doesn't hapen often, aside fom the power lifters at my one gym there has only been one other person.
 
Congrats on the 3 plates squat :) Congrats on all outher PR's
Solid stuff keep it up.
 
Good stuff BW. I'll be following along closely since I'll probably try this later in the year.

djeclipse said:
I always give people props when I see them doing a full ATF squat. but unfortunately it doesn't hapen often, aside fom the power lifters at my one gym there has only been one other person.
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Yep, I saw some guy doing perfect ATF squats with 155 (he only weighed about 130 or so) and I was like 'whoa'. Meanwhile, I see guys with 225 and sometimes 315 doing quarter squats and I'm like 'eh'. I guess I'm in the squat snob club ;)
 
blut wump said:
I'm kind of dreading BiggT or Madcow stepping in and saying 'Keep loading for another two weeks". ;)
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Then it'll be easier to hear (and ignore :)) when I say it.

Go by feel. If over the weekend you find that you feel chipper with little/no fatigue symptoms, then push on. Gear is borderline magic in terms of recovery and you'll waste time IMO if you deload right when the gear is hitting. You'll know it's hit because at the end of your scheduled workout you'll be thinking "I bet I could do that all over again" :P
 
Oh, bugger...

I guess I'd better start making a packed lunch to take to the gym with me. I do recall at the end of today's workout thinking that I didn't feel as drained as I'd expect to be. I certainly didn't feel fresh just not as empty as a triple-PR workout should have left me.

Thanks. No peace for the wicked.

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I think my main thoughts had been that if it's going to be kicking in with full force over the next couple of weeks then it'd be optimal to hit that wave fresh rather than fatigued and have to deload when it's at it's strongest. From what you're saying, it's hardly worth worrying about and the gear will likely take care of me. I do remember you seeming to deload over one or two lower volume workouts and then being back at it full power.
 
yeah, I had missed several key lifts, then took it easy for a few days, then riode the PR train for weeks. Maybe take it easy a bit, but IMO the gear is gonna erase most/all fatigue unless you're buried in it. It doesn't sound like you're all that fatigued to start with.
 
Week 5 Day 1

Deloading this week would definitely have been premature but I'm far from chipper. I feel like I finished this workout on empty.

I got to my working sets on squats and got a tough single. After thinking about why it should be only a single I decided that I had no answer so carried on and did my 5x5. 135x5x5 PR. Every set seemed to finish on a grinding rep.

Bench went well. The final set was hard work but I locked it out. 125x5 PR

Rows seemed to be going well until I hit the last set. With big lungfuls of air I got two reps and then the third rep didn't hit my body and I felt like I had a big rush of blood into my ears. After a pause I did another couple of reps. They pauses weren't so long that they were singles but not so short that they'd really count as a good set. They didn't reach my torso either.

I felt spent and did some Needsize abs 5x5 at bodyweight which I was close to failing the last set on.


Total time around 1hr 45mins.

Weight in Kilos. Previous weeks in orange
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 80x4, 100x3, 110x5x5
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x5, 115x5x5
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x4, 115x2, 125x5 for 3 sets, 130x5 for 2 sets, 100x10
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x4, 115x2, 130x5x5, 100x10
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x3, 110x2, 125x1, 135x1, 135x5x5
Bench
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 80x5N, 90x5S, 100x5W, 110x5W
20x10N, 40x10S, 60x5W, 70x5W, 80x5W, 90x5W, 105x5W, 115x5W, 80x10x2 NN
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 80x5W, 90x5W, 100x5W, 110x5W, 120x5W, 80x10 for 2 sets NN
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 80x5W, 90x5W, 100x5W, 110x5W, 122.5x5W, 85x10 for 2 sets NN
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 85x5W, 95x5W, 105x5W, 115x5W, 125x5W, 85x10 for 2 sets NN
BB Row
20x10, 60x5, 70x5, 80x5, 90x5, 100x5
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 85x5, 95x5, 105x5
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 90x5, 100x5, 110x5, 60x15
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 90x5, 100x5, 112.5x5
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 90x5, 105x5, 115x2 + bits
Needsize Abs
0x5x5
5x5x5
5x5x5
5x5x5
0x5x5

Edit:
I'd missed a 125x1 from the squats.
My legs ache.
 
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Jim Ouini said:
Very nice setting another week of PR's in volume phase.
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Thanks. I'm very happy with the squats.

I'd worked up to 135x3 for 5 sets before Christmas with a belt and I'm still running beltless so far.
 
1:45 in the gym. I'm wondering if I don't rest as long between sets as I should. Today I did 5 sets of squats, 5 sets of incline bench, 5 sets of dynamic rows, 5 sets of skull crushers, and I was in and out in 55 minutes.
 
During early weeks I can be in and out in 40-50 minutes. As the sets take more out of me, the resting time goes up. I sometimes think that part of the time is just convincing myself that I really can get another set in.

Warmups take time out, too. If I count the warmups in, I did over 30 sets.
 
I just go by feel for how long i take between sets, If im going for a pr and i think it's gunna be tough i will sometimes take around 5 mins before attempting the lift. the rest of the time it's usually around the 2 or 3 minute mark.
 
Introspective said:
I just go by feel for how long i take between sets, If im going for a pr and i think it's gunna be tough i will sometimes take around 5 mins before attempting the lift. the rest of the time it's usually around the 2 or 3 minute mark.
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I think a combination of being impatient and not having a tonne of time to workout has lead me to not taking longer rest periods.
 
Week 5 Day 2

Firstly, apologies to anyone here looking for another slew of PRs. There are none today.

I felt a little apprehensive about this workout before I reached the gym and I'm not unhappy that it turned into a deload workout. Friday will be deload too and then I'll see what next week brings.

I got to 100Kg on front squats and it felt hard. I decided to do a single at 120 just to bridge the gap to 125 which was my intended weight and it just wasn't happening. As I went down I could feel that I couldn't hold stance and dumped the bar. A second attempt was aborted even sooner. On switching to normal squats at 120Kg and finding them hard I decided it was time to deload.

Nothing much else to report about the workout. I could probably have used more weight on the deads but I reckoned getting 3x3 in was adequate.

I finally went for chins in place of pulldowns. The second two reps of each set were more along the lines of waggling my chin in the region of the bar but at least they were chins rather than pulldowns.

When I'd finished, I had no feelings of "I could do all of that again". I think it'd be silly not to deload now.


Weight in Kilos.
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10
Front Squat
30x6, 60x5, 80x3, 100x2, 120x0, 120x0
ATF Squat
120x3x3
Deadlift
60x8, 100x5, 140x3, 155x3x3
MP
20x10, 40x6, 60x3, 75x3x3
Chins
BWx3x3
 
Good stuff. It's nice to be able to know your own tolerance and when to load and deload. Or course having to dump the bar on a squat is a good indicator too ;)
 
I think Monday's workout buried the hatchet and scraped the barrel. Even now, a couple of hours after that half-workout, I'm feeling drained.

I'll just look on Monday as a bonus and get back to my original plan, whichever one that was.
 
Week 5 Day 3 - Deload

Another deload day. I was looking forward to the workout again which I took as a good sign. I felt pretty good but kept things light and easy. I managed to sneak a PR in there which, while unimpressive, was pleasing.

Squats were ok. My knee felt better than it has for a while so I didn't wear my neoprene support. I reckon the Wednesday Front Squats do my knees no favours and I might drop them. I finished on 140x5 last week which I realised was not only a x5 PR but also either equalled or exceeded my x3 PR. As such I went for 145x3 rather than just 140x3 and grabbed a PR. No real biggie.

Similarly with bench, I went to 120x3x3 rather than 117.5x3x3. I couldn't be bothered searching for the small plates. No PR there since my best is 130x3 for 5 sets. Since I got 85x10 for 2 sets last week on the backoff I bumped it to 90x8 and got the two sets without any hitch. It'll likely be harder next week after some more-reasonable volume.

BB row nothing to report. I felt fine after my last set so banged out a 60x20

DB side bends. I repeated my last one from two weeks ago.

With the rows and side-bends this almost felt like a cardio workout. My wife said I was looking a lot better than I did on Wednesday when I got home. She mentioned that I'd looked very tired on Weds.

I'll give some thought over the weekend on how to pitch the next volume phase. I think I'll take it reasonably easy next week (ie not aim for new PRs) and then hope for three consecutive weeks of PRs before needing to deload again. I'm happy to extend my cycle by one injection if I'm able to run four weeks of volume else I'll end after week8, giving me three weeks of volume. I want to ensure that I deload while still enhanced.

I've put on a little bit of weight this week (I think I was on 125.8=276.8 this morning) but when I look in the mirror there's this big guy there glaring back at me making me feel small. I'm definitely firming up all over.


Weights in Kilos
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 80x3, 100x3, 120x3, 130x3, 145x3
Bench
20x10N, 40x10S, 60x5W, 80x3S, 105x3W, 115x1W, 120x3x3 W, 90x8 for 2 sets N
BB Row
20x10, 60x5, 85x5, 105x3x3, 60x20
DB Side Bend
55x8, 70x8 for 3 sets
 
nelmsjer said:
Congrats on your squat PR and for feeling better. How different does this feel, compared to non-juice?
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That's a really good question. The simple answer is that I don't feel different at all.

On the other hand, I feel more mellow, day to day, than I have in years and the fatigue from a workout is much reduced. Until this Monday, when I left the gym feeling on empty, I'd been hitting PR after PR and going back to the gym ready to do it again, all the time thinking that there was nothing definite to say that the gear was making any difference.

I've not had any day when I've gone into the gym feeling that I could lift the bar, the squat rack and anyone in it but I'm steadily adding weight to the bar, session after session and finding it no harder than the previous PR.
 
blut wump said:
I've not had any day when I've gone into the gym feeling that I could lift the bar, the squat rack and anyone in it but I'm steadily adding weight to the bar, session after session and finding it no harder than the previous PR.
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My sneaking suspicion is that the heavier esters such as what you're using have a much more gradual effect. I bet you'll still have 'the day' where you feel invincible, the you'll ride the wave for a few weeks. I only have experience with short esters so I was expecting a 'holy shit' day by now from ya :D
 
Well, I'm now five weeks in from first injection which puts me at about the half-way point when I add in the time for esters to dissipate.

I was just looking at my week3 performance against my week5. Squat went up maybe 8Kg and bench up 5Kg in those two weeks for a 5-rep set. If I can add double that again then I'll be hitting 150 for squat and 135 for bench each for five reps before I go into an intensity phase. I'm very likely to hit my long-term ambition of three plates on bench for a triple and pretty likely to be hitting four plates on squat for a single or double belt-free by the time it's all over. If I hit those then I'll have no cause for any complaint provided I remain injury-free.

I'm just taking it one workout at a time but I can see why people launch their cycles with orals or faster-acting esters. As they say, it's a marathon rather than a sprint. Maybe I'll do it again around September-ish but slightly different.
 
Sunday Weigh-In - Back due to popular demand

126.8Kg (279.0lbs)


21st Feb 123.4Kg - 271.5lbs
26th Feb 124.4Kg - 273.7lbs
05th Mar 125.0Kg - 275.0lbs
12th Mar 126.8Kg - 279.0lbs
(19th Mar 125.2Kg - 275.4lbs)
27th Mar 126.8Kg - 279.0lbs (today)

I forgot to post it up last week and ate before weighing yesterday so this is a day late. I had the same weight two weeks ago but put that one down to water and then lost four or five pounds overnight. My weight has been climbing, bit by bit, all of this past week.
 
Guinness5.0 said:
My sneaking suspicion is that the heavier esters such as what you're using have a much more gradual effect. I bet you'll still have 'the day' where you feel invincible, the you'll ride the wave for a few weeks. I only have experience with short esters so I was expecting a 'holy shit' day by now from ya :D
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aren't you on prop BW?
 
BD Test Cyp 200. I'm taking 1.2ml E4D which is 60mg per day average.
I've now gone five full weeks and a couple of days.
 
Week 6 Day 1

I took today as a reconditioning day. I moved back to 5x5 workouts rather than 3x3 and stepped back to around week3 weights. It was a fairly straightforward workout but my energy levels were down and the weights felt heavier than I expected. No signs of any Superman syndrome yet. It could be that I should have taken another pure deload day.

The squats felt kind of heavy but I was keeping my rests between sets down to a couple of minutes and I paused each rep at the bottom.

The 100Kg bench felt heavy and I thought I was going to be in trouble after I'd done the 110. The 120 seemed easier than either of those, though. However, not so easy that I would have had confidence of getting 125 which I got last week.

Nothing to report on the rows except that I've just looked at week3 and I should have been aiming for 110 as my top set rather than 105.

All in all a fairly lackluster workout. I'm going to write this one off to biorhythms and a poor sleep and hope that I have more to show on Wednesday.


Weight in Kilos.
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x4, 110x3, 125x5x5
Bench
20x10N, 40x10S, 60x6W, 80x5W, 90x5W, 110x5W, 110x5W, 120x5W, 90x9 for 2 sets NN
BB Row
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 85x5, 95x5, 105x5
Needsize Abs
5x5
 
I think your progress looks really good. I have used Enanthate in the past at low doses (200-400mg/week) and I never had a holy shit moment per se (except in the mirror looking at my traps, lol), but I just made gauranteed progress over time, and like you said, each PR felt easy, like I'd done it before. I didn't wake up one day 20lbs heavier, but it was a consistent climb and I gained 20lbs within the first 6 weeks, and probably a grand total of 25ish. My body dramatically recomps itself too. Last I used anything was August of 2003 and my bodyweight went from 250 to about 272ish and my bodyfat hadn't been better since I was 220, lol.
Sex drive was through the roof, so was performance. I always felt like I was in a great mood too and very clear headed. The first 2 weeks, I shot once a week, but I'd crash, with 2 shots a week, I felt like the King of the World straight through.

Just my experience, I think yours will be similar because like me, you'd been training and progressing consistently for a time before the cycle, and the gains aren't as dramatic as someone coming back from a layoff or someone who never made progress in the gym anyway due to crap training and lack of eating.

I hope it gives you some reassurance.....just expect progress to be eye popping when you look back over 2-3 months and not so much from workout to workout. And enjoy every last second of the body recomp and having the upper back and shoulder girdle of a comic book character, because unfortunately, that goes back to the before state a couple weeks after your last shot.
 
BiggT said:
I think your progress looks really good. I have used Enanthate in the past at low doses (200-400mg/week) and I never had a holy shit moment per se (except in the mirror looking at my traps, lol), but I just made gauranteed progress over time, and like you said, each PR felt easy, like I'd done it before. I didn't wake up one day 20lbs heavier, but it was a consistent climb and I gained 20lbs within the first 6 weeks, and probably a grand total of 25ish. My body dramatically recomps itself too. Last I used anything was August of 2003 and my bodyweight went from 250 to about 272ish and my bodyfat hadn't been better since I was 220, lol.
Sex drive was through the roof, so was performance. I always felt like I was in a great mood too and very clear headed. The first 2 weeks, I shot once a week, but I'd crash, with 2 shots a week, I felt like the King of the World straight through.

Just my experience, I think yours will be similar because like me, you'd been training and progressing consistently for a time before the cycle, and the gains aren't as dramatic as someone coming back from a layoff or someone who never made progress in the gym anyway due to crap training and lack of eating.

I hope it gives you some reassurance.....just expect progress to be eye popping when you look back over 2-3 months and not so much from workout to workout. And enjoy every last second of the body recomp and having the upper back and shoulder girdle of a comic book character, because unfortunately, that goes back to the before state a couple weeks after your last shot.
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how tall are you biggt?
and yes, test e and sus both give consistent gains from one workout to another... occasionally, when i have bumped the weight up too much, i've gone back not feeling satisfied. and yes, you'll see your standards drop as far as women are concerned. you'll feel like doing anything under 40 with boobs. ;)
 
I'm already 48 yo. Anything under 60 can look mighty sweet these days and I can give a little leeway provided the teeth are mostly intact and there's not too much scalp showing.

Thanks to both of you for the encouragement. I have to admit that occasionally the thought of 'bunk gear' has crossed my mind but a moment's rational cogitation dispels any such nonsense. I'm having some nice, steady gains both physically and in the gym.

I read through a lot of my Korte log yesterday, especially the parts where I was getting loaded thought the latter parts of the volume phase, and realised that I haven't suffered with loading hardly at all these past weeks. Some, obviously, but none of that mind-numbing fatigue that weeks 3 and 4 usually give.

It's also easy to forget that just two or three weeks ago 125Kgx5x5 was PR territory and this last workout was done for reduced-rest paused squats. So long as my squat continues to improve, I'm happy.

Thanks again.
 
blut wump said:
I'm already 48 yo. Anything under 60 can look mighty sweet these days and I can give a little leeway provided the teeth are mostly intact and there's not too much scalp showing.

Thanks to both of you for the encouragement. I have to admit that occasionally the thought of 'bunk gear' has crossed my mind but a moment's rational cogitation dispels any such nonsense. I'm having some nice, steady gains both physically and in the gym.

I read through a lot of my Korte log yesterday, especially the parts where I was getting loaded thought the latter parts of the volume phase, and realised that I haven't suffered with loading hardly at all these past weeks. Some, obviously, but none of that mind-numbing fatigue that weeks 3 and 4 usually give.

It's also easy to forget that just two or three weeks ago 125Kgx5x5 was PR territory and this last workout was done for reduced-rest paused squats. So long as my squat continues to improve, I'm happy.

Thanks again.
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lol. i tried to key in this parameter... but my brain still couldn't come up with an age that's accurate.... i'm just 26. :coffee:
 
Week 6 Day 2

I was feeling much better today than I have for a few days and decided that the deadlifts were taking priority and that the 155Kg was going down, or up. Accordingly, I've dropped front squats. My knees weren't happy with them and they were taking too much away from my deads.

It was fun to get back to light squats which I always think of as a warmup to the deadlifts. It's odd how they never really feel light, though.

Deads were definitely hard work. I was always confident of getting all five sets but hard work. The strain, though, felt very much in the muscles rather than in my CNS. I often wonder whether I'll ever get the hang of deadlifts. It's still the only lift that gives me anxiety. 155x5x5 PR.

MP I dropped back to week3 by way of this still being my reconditioning week. I took the warmups slowly since my back was recovering from the deads.

Pulldowns similarly. Nothing new there. When I'd finished the 5x5, though, I decided to take a shot at the whole stack. A bit of a grunt but a solid single. I'm guessing the plates are around 10 pounds so that's less than bodyweight.

I didn't feel overly knackered by the time I'd finished. If someone had suggested starting again I'd probably have acknowledged that it wasn't going to happen but I might have given it a shot.


Weight in Kilos.
Light ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x4, 110x5x5
Deadlift
60x8, 100x5, 135x3, 155x5x5
MP
20x10, 40x6, 60x3, 70x5x5
Pulldowns
12x8, 16x5, 18x5x5, 25x1 (Plates of unknown weight)
 
Week 6 Day 3

I was feeling a lot better recovered today than I was expecting to be after Wednesday's workout. It pretty much felt as though I'd just taken a weekend off. By Monday I'm going to feel as though I've had a layoff.

I knew when I started the squats that I was likely to be shooting for a PR by the time I got to the end of them despite today being another reconditioning day. The last rep made me see a couple of stars but it was never in any doubt. 145x5 PR

Flush from the squat PR I reckoned I'd test out 120Kg on bench and, if it felt ok, consider sticking with it. They were never in doubt from the first set. I went for the usual couple of back-off sets of close-grip. The first one went to 10 reps nicely enough but the second was dying after 8 reps. I tried for one more and couldn't get it up so had to suffer the ignominy of shrugging it down to my thighs. I was going to rest and press it back up but one of my elbows complained so I went for the safer option. 120x5x5 PR.

I was out of spirit by the time rows came around and didn't have the heart to try for anything new. I think that I really don't like doing the Pendlay rows when it comes down to it although they are a very effective exercise. A couple of the middle sets were a little scrappy but nothing to see here.

I'm pretty pleased at getting in the squat and bench PRs but concerned that I might struggle to keep hitting PRs over the next few weeks and that, maybe, keeping this week a little lower would have been sensible. The lifts felt right, though, and I'm happy with the decision to notch them up.

My back was very tight by the time I finished and I just didn't fancy any more lifting so stretched everything out and went home.


Weights in Kilos
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 80x5, 95x5, 110x5, 125x5, 145x5
Bench
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 80x3W, 100x2W, 110x2W, 120x5x5 W, 90x10N, 90x8N
BB Row
20x10, 60x5, 80x4, 105x5x5
 
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Nice, congrats on the PRs. From your description of the ease of the PRs, I'm guessing the answer will be the latter, but I'll ask anyway: is this pretty standard post-deload progress/recovery for you or noticeably improved by the gear?
 
I've never before run two consecutive loading phases so I'm into new territory, anyway. The ease of deloading has been a surprise, especially since I really only took two deload workouts before getting back into volume.

I intended to take it reasonably easy this week but have continued to set PRs and none of them has left me feeling out of gas. I usually expect to see some kind of progress during a volume phase but I think there was a workout at the end of the second week where I felt that the lifts were a shade easier than I'd expected. I've had a slow but steady enhancement of that feeling ever since.

The gear seems, basically, to improve recovery times. Except for two workouts, I've been running 5x5 volume-phase workouts for 6 weeks straight, with small, steady PRs rolling in since the third. In a normal state, I'd expect that the thought of the gym at this stage would make me feel ill. I'm looking forward to at least two more weeks and maybe three before feeling like another deload and over these past few days I've begun to feel notably greater vitality.
 
Congrats. I've been wondering about doing rows before bench to give them more emphasis. Everyone likes to bench a lot, but like you say, rows are a very effective exercise.
 
There's something I'd just like to comment on. From a few posts on here I get the feeling that I'm giving the impression that these have been easy PRs. It's not the case.

I guess they've been easy in the sense that they've been coming thick and fast and they're easy in the sense that they aren't the all-out gutbusting effort that a new 1RM would be. Every one except the 145x3 squat has been a thrill and a pleasure to attain. When I say that I knew I could get a set from the moment I unracked the bar I mean just that and no more. I don't mean that the bar flew up and it was easy. I've been lifting long enough to have a good idea when a set is going to be hopeless but I almost always lift with a good sense of optimism.

Today, for example, my quads, glutes, pecs, front delts, lats and biceps are sore. On Thursday my hamstrings were very tight and my traps were sore. These were focussed workouts not trivial, breazy sessions with gift lifts.

I guess I'll put it down to an inate British tendency for understatement. Jim has pulled me up in it in the past.

Oh, and thanks to everyone who voted for this thread as thread of the month, especially those corrupt few who were happy to sell their votes.
 
blut wump said:
There's something I'd just like to comment on. From a few posts on here I get the feeling that I'm giving the impression that these have been easy PRs. It's not the case.

I guess they've been easy in the sense that they've been coming thick and fast and they're easy in the sense that they aren't the all-out gutbusting effort that a new 1RM would be. Every one except the 145x3 squat has been a thrill and a pleasure to attain. When I say that I knew I could get a set from the moment I unracked the bar I mean just that and no more. I don't mean that the bar flew up and it was easy. I've been lifting long enough to have a good idea when a set is going to be hopeless but I almost always lift with a good sense of optimism.

Today, for example, my quads, glutes, pecs, front delts, lats and biceps are sore. On Thursday my hamstrings were very tight and my traps were sore. These were focussed workouts not trivial, breazy sessions with gift lifts.

I guess I'll put it down to an inate British tendency for understatement. Jim has pulled me up in it in the past.

Oh, and thanks to everyone who voted for this thread as thread of the month, especially those corrupt few who were happy to sell their votes.
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:spit: :FRlol: :lmao:

Dammit, man. You crack me up. I want to be as witty as you.

What kind of books do you read?
 
blut wump said:
Today, for example, my quads, glutes, pecs, front delts, lats and biceps are sore. On Thursday my hamstrings were very tight and my traps were sore
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Bi's and tri's not sore? Not working hard enough, throw in an arm day my friend.
 
Jim Ouini said:
Bi's and tri's not sore? Not working hard enough, throw in an arm day my friend.
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My triceps must be better conditioned than the rest of me.


Cheers, Nelms, it's odd to encounter someone who thinks my humour is humourous. People usually just make some odd gesture with their humerus and other arm parts.

Re books, I read typically either for education or escapism. As such, my light reading is entirely science fiction and fantasy. I tried 'normal' fiction but found it empty and gave up on it way back.
 
blut wump said:
There's something I'd just like to comment on. From a few posts on here I get the feeling that I'm giving the impression that these have been easy PRs. It's not the case.

...When I say that I knew I could get a set from the moment I unracked the bar I mean just that and no more. I don't mean that the bar flew up and it was easy. I've been lifting long enough to have a good idea when a set is going to be hopeless...
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Since one of those posts was mine, I'll assure you that you haven't been misleading about the difficulty. All of us have experienced the difference between what you've been describing and the grinding, uncertain PRs. It probably sometimes seems hard to capture the feel of a workout or set in a journal, but you do an excellent job of it.
 
Sunday Weigh-In

126.4 Kg (278.0 lbs)


21st Feb 123.4 Kg - 271.5 lbs
26th Feb 124.4 Kg - 273.7 lbs
05th Mar 125.0 Kg - 275.0 lbs
12th Mar 126.8 Kg - 279.0 lbs
(19th Mar 125.2 Kg - 275.4 lbs)
27th Mar 126.8 Kg - 279.0 lbs
02nd Apr 126.4 Kg - 278.0 lbs (today)

Just looking back over these past few weeks and even over the past couple, my weight is still fluctuating quite a bit but steadily climbing. I guess all I can really do is to keep an eye on it in case it goes overboard at any time. If it were to do that, though, I'd probably feel it, with or without the scales to tell me.
 
Don't let the floppy ears, long nose and sharp, pointy teeth fool you.

Actually, having to lift all that bodyweight as well as the mass on the bar is one good reason to consider cutting my bodyfat.
 
Week 7 Day 1

A very satisfying workout. I went to the gym with the intention of coming away from the workout with three new PRs but was apprehensive at what that entailed. I based this workout on my week5 session which was the last workout prior to the deload.

I'm getting to be very pleased with my squats. I'm taking a good bellyful of air and holding myself tight throughout the movement and I feel secure in the lift. I worked my way to three plates and each set went pretty much the same with each being just a shade harder than the previous. First rep would be easy getting a little harder through to rep three. Rep four would be a bit grindy and I'd hiss a bit. On the last rep I'd growl a lot and have a slowing down point. As I hit it, I'd push with everything I had which would propel me through the rest of the movement and the bar would rattle at the top. I'm not sure whether I actually left the ground on the last rep of the last set. 140Kg x 5 x 5 PR.

The top bench set was easier than expected. I called for someone to spot me and the last rep pretty much flew up. I probably had another rep (or two?) in me but I'm a disciplined lifter. I think, like with the squat, I've improved my form and my arch felt very stable. I was so chuffed with the set, especially after the tough set last week, that I completely forgot about my back-off sets of close-grip. 127.5Kg x 5 PR

Rows went fine. I got to my top set and thought long and hard about whether to take 112.5 or go for 115 which I'd failed last time. As I made my decision I was thinking that someone is going to call me a wuss but I was there for PRs not failed reps. It was hard work and I'll never know whether I could have made 115. 112.5Kg x 5 PR.


Total time around 1hr 40mins.

Weight in Kilos. Week 5 in orange
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x3, 110x2, 125x1, 135x1, 135x5x5
20x10, 20x10, 60x5, 90x3, 110x3, 130x2, 140x5x5
Bench
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 85x5W, 95x5W, 105x5W, 115x5W, 125x5W, 85x10 for 2 sets NN
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 85x5W, 95x5W, 105x5W, 115x5W, 127.5x5W
BB Row
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 90x5, 105x5, 115x2 + bits
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 90x5, 105x5, 112.5x5
 
I've very much enjoyed reading your logs. Glad to hear you are making such great progress.

I have to ask because I did not see (or possibly missed) - but what are the Needsize Abs? I know who he is and am fairly certain this is an abdominal exercise, but wondered if there is a link to this somewhere? Thanks. :)
 
Week 7 Day 2

At this rate, I'm going to be needing another deload next week. This was hard work.

I went to 115Kg on the light squats and they felt a lot harder than I expected. I can only put it down to fatigue from Monday. I kept examining my form to see what could be wrong and decided that it was just me.

Deadlift warmups went well enough and everything felt good to go. The first set felt reasonably good but I could tell the next four were going to be a struggle. At the end of the third set I felt confident that I'd get all five sets but lost faith again after the fourth. I just kept thinking about Guinness's mental fortitude on his squats and knew I had to get through the lift. I thought I was going to lose it after the fourth rep of the last set but took two or three lungfuls of air and finished. 160Kg x 5 x 5 PR.

The MP felt tough. I was happy that I'd missed the last rep in week4 at 75Kg since it left me able to stick with 75 and call it a PR. I struggled in the 2nd and 3rd sets so kept the pace high between reps for the last two sets so as not to waste energy. It helped. 75Kg x 5 x 5 PR.

I didn't have time for the pulldowns as I had to leave to pick someone up. Sad to say, I didn't really care about losing them and did a quick set of 20 presses with just the bar to loosen my shoulders.

After the last set of deads I just sat on the ground sucking air and feeling glorious at getting all the sets. Meanwhile there was a guy about to start a set with five plates - 220Kg. He squeezed out four nice solid reps. It gave me perspective and something to aim for. Some days, the gym is just good.


Weight in Kilos. Last week in orange
Light ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x4, 110x5x5
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 100x4, 115x5x5
Deadlift
60x8, 100x5, 135x3, 155x5x5
60x8, 100x5, 130x3, 150x2, 160x5x5
MP
20x10, 40x6, 60x3, 70x5x5
20x10, 40x5, 60x3, 70x1, 75x5x5, 20x20
 
blut wump said:
Week 7 Day 2


After the last set of deads I just sat on the ground sucking air and feeling glorious at getting all the sets. Meanwhile there was a guy about to start a set with five plates - 220Kg. He squeezed out four nice solid reps. It gave me perspective and something to aim for. Some days, the gym is just good.
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Best way to get strong is to surround yourself with strong folks, whether physically or mentally. Must be good karma!!!

Good stuff bro...
 
blut wump said:
After the last set of deads I just sat on the ground sucking air and feeling glorious at getting all the sets.
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Congrats on the 5 x 5 PR. Having the bar on the floor and trying to get your mind and body together for that 25th rep is no joke.
 
blut wump said:
I just kept thinking about Guinness's mental fortitude on his squats and knew I had to get through the lift. I thought I was going to lose it after the fourth rep of the last set but took two or three lungfuls of air and finished. 160Kg x 5 x 5 PR.



After the last set of deads I just sat on the ground sucking air and feeling glorious at getting all the sets. Meanwhile there was a guy about to start a set with five plates - 220Kg. He squeezed out four nice solid reps. It gave me perspective and something to aim for. Some days, the gym is just good.
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I'm e-flattered :) Seriously, that's awesome to me that my vid helped your workout. Good job on the PRs. And I know what you mean about seeing someone stronger than yourself - it's inspiring (once the envy dissipates anyway :p)
 
Are we back onto chocolate squats as against vanilla lifts?

It is good to see people performing better that one currently can. I have a competetive streak a yard wide and seeing someone who is just a shade better than I am is like a proverbial red flag to a bull. To see someone who is way better brings admiration and hope for the future.

Thanks to everyone. It's a great motivation.

I think these past few weeks have been the hardest I've ever worked in the gym. I can see why people consider never coming off.
 
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I forgot to mention that I dug the chalk out yesterday for my deads. During the first set, I could feel my grip slipping and felt that it was time to reach for some assistance for the rest of the sets. The bar stayed solidly in my fingers with the chalk.

I'm still on double-overhand grip, which is good.
 
Is double overhand grip for deads better for forearm development? If so I may try and switch back to double overhand insteadof mixed grip. I'd just hate to miss a lift becasue my grip gave out.
 
It makes you work harder to hold onto the bar so I'm inclined to think that it works your grip more. I wouldn't risk a lift for the sake of it but with a weight I know I'm good for I'll use double-overhand. I'd switch to mixed without a moment's hesitation if I thought I needed the extra holding power.

I feel more comfortable with both hands pronated and less likely to take chunks out of my shins. When I use mixed, the side with the pronated hand loses shin flesh.
 
blut wump said:
It makes you work harder to hold onto the bar so I'm inclined to think that it works your grip more. I wouldn't risk a lift for the sake of it but with a weight I know I'm good for I'll use double-overhand. I'd switch to mixed without a moment's hesitation if I thought I needed the extra holding power.

I feel more comfortable with both hands pronated and less likely to take chunks out of my shins. When I use mixed, the side with the pronated hand loses shin flesh.
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ya, I still have the scars on my shins form the first time I used mixed grip. And at least once every lift I bang my shins/knees pretty good with the bar.

I will try doing overhand grip for the warm up weights and see how it goes. I am just worried about tiring out my grip for the last set.
 
Week 7 Day 3

I'm starting to feel a little beaten up after all these weeks. One of my knees is giving me grief when I kneel on it and my arms are developing aches. I was also starting to feel early signs of loading again. I think I was still recovering from Wedsnesday's deads. It's an interesting ride.

I decided I was going for 150Kg today on squats. I got a bit of a shock when I realised that I would be on 135 for the next-to-last set and then realised that I've never done more than a belted single at 150 since moving to proper, deep squats. 120 felt kind of hard, 135 reasonably easy and then 150 felt no harder than 145 last week. It consisted of five of the ropiest squats I've been involved in, though. I had the strength but couldn't find the groove. Obviously, I got the depth, else they'd be fails, but it seemed like something was poor in my balance left to right or front to back on every rep. 150Kg x 5 PR.

I just realised that my squat x5 is catching up with my deadlift x5x5. I'd like to have the confidence to go for 160, 3.5 plates, next week on squats.

When I started on bench the aches in my brachialis/brachioradialis were looking to be a problem. A bit of massage took care of them though. When I got to the working sets the first set felt easy but after the second I decided the weight was about right. The last set finished on two tough reps. 122.5Kg x 5 x 5 PR

I set the bar down to 90Kg for my back off close-grip sets but aborted while starting to take the strain to lift it. Aches in the left arm and right elbow put me right off.

I also ended up aborting rows. I worked a couple of warmup sets and decided either that I simply wouldn't be able to do the higher sets or I'd injure myself trying. Not worth it either way so I did some abs work and called it a day.

Measures beyond my control are going to interfere with next week's workouts but catching it early I can move the days along by one and get my workouts in. I'm not sure whether I can get to the gym on Monday but the plan is to make Monday a light arms day and then work out Tu, Th, Sa. It'll give me a needed rest and maybe a minor deload for the final week or two.


Weights in Kilos
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x5, 105x5, 120x5, 135x5, 150x5
Bench
20x10N, 40x10S, 60x5W, 80x3W, 100x2W, 110x2W, 122.5x5x5
 
Sounds like a tough one. Are you coming to the end of the gear now? How are you going to finish off - pure deload, or are you going to try for some singles?
 
I have another one or two weeks 'on'. I'll go into a deload and intensity after I'm done with volume. The important thing is to go into deload while still 'enhanced' which covers a period of around two weeks from last injection. After around six weeks, I'm pretty much in the clear and should be training normally again.

If this next week goes well then I'll try for one further week of volume and my last injection will be on the Weds of that week. Otherwise my last injection will be next Saturday and the week after this one coming will be the start of my deload. I suspect that I'll end up with some hybrid of those two plans as I dally with being loaded again.

I'll basically just run a standard intensity phase working with triples. When that's all done I'll finally take a shot at some singles after having worked up to them.
 
Sounds like you're dealing w/ some aches & pains. You're nearing the end though so hopefully you can hold on a little longer. LoL Maybe it's the "old" setting in. LoL I have to spend more time warming up than before.

I'm sure you'll get the 160 squat, bro. Don't take no for an answer.
 
Looking forward to your deloading numbers. Sorry to hear about your last workout (well, except for the PR). Hopefully, it was just a minor hiccup.
 
I didn't realise you were planning on carrying on, given that you were worried about injury in this workout. How come the big jump to 160kg on squats? That's another 10kg/20lb above yesterday's PR. Who do you think you are, G5.0? ;)
 
What you don't use, you lose.

I have to keep lifting heavy as I return to my own bodybrew hormones lest the corpus be lax in stepping up production. I'll be dropping volume significantly in moving to the intensity phase and I'll just have to keep a general eye on wear and tear.

The ache in my arm feels just muscular so I can expect the gear to have that healed by the time I need to row again. I just have to take care with tendons and joints.

160 is only 3.5 plates. It strikes me as a number I'd like to hit to be reasonably sure of being comfortable with four plates by the time I finish the intensity phase and I'm still prepared to dig my belt out if needs be. I'd also like to be able to do a single with 160Kg on bench when I get to doing singles.
 
blut wump said:
What you don't use, you lose.

I have to keep lifting heavy as I return to my own bodybrew hormones lest the corpus be lax in stepping up production. I'll be dropping volume significantly in moving to the intensity phase and I'll just have to keep a general eye on wear and tear.
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Sorry, when I mentioned not carrying on, I was only referring to the volume phase. I thought now might be a good time to deload if you're feeling so achey you have to abort a workout, but then again, you also mentioned "early signs of loading", so I guess you're not as generally beat up as your arm is.

You're a trooper :)
 
Sunday Weigh-In

126.0 Kg (277.2 lbs)


21st Feb 123.4 Kg - 271.5 lbs
26th Feb 124.4 Kg - 273.7 lbs
05th Mar 125.0 Kg - 275.0 lbs
12th Mar 126.8 Kg - 279.0 lbs
(19th Mar 125.2 Kg - 275.4 lbs)
27th Mar 126.8 Kg - 279.0 lbs
02nd Apr 126.4 Kg - 278.0 lbs
11th Apr 126.0 Kg - 277.2 lbs (today {Tuesday})

A couple of days late but I was away over the weekend and forgot to post it yesterday. I was up to 126.8 sometime over the past few days and it looks like I've been stable for a while except for fluctuations.
 
Week 8 Day 1

I didn't make it to the gym yesterday, as expected, so this week's workouts are displaced by a day.

I'm definitely starting to feel loaded now. That feeling of fatigue that you have to ignore during sets is there. It's now just a matter of how long to ignore it for but I think I'm starting to view this week as being probably the last week of volume.

I'm also getting even more bust up. All of my warmups on the exercises were spent adjusting feet or hands or knee-flare or elbows to try to reduce strain on some joint or other. During my squat warmups I was thinking that I might not be able to do them due to an ache in my knee. I'd have put the neoprene knee-tube on but it was already in use on the other knee.

Squats went quite well. It's always hard to get the 5x5 weights just right. I finished on a toughish rep but I wouldn't call it an all-out effort. I guess so long as I keep progressing it's good to hold a shade in the tank. I had one very odd rep at the end of the second set. It was genuinely easy. I could neither understand why nor replicate it. The rep before it had been a solid effort. 145Kg x 5 x 5 PR

Bench was fine too. I kept getting a slight twinge in my left elbow but it was at a low enough level to ignore. I kind of psyched myself up for the last set and got it without any hassle and the spotter was well-behaved. I'm unsure whether I might have had another rep in me. 130Kg x 5 PR

When I got to rows I was ready to abort again but found that pulling my hands in slightly eased things. I finally got the weight I've been chasing these past few weeks 115Kg x 5 PR.

I finished off with some Needsize Abs 5x5 without extra weight. Again I struggled with them but did them all. I have to guess that the earlier lifts are taking enough out of my core to make the abs work harder than it used to be.

I noticed that I also had little inclination to do back-off sets. It was more a case of thinking that the exercise was over and let's get onto the next one and I put that down as another sign of loading. Maybe I should have spent another session deloading a couple of weeks back.

Total time around 1hr 40mins.

Weight in Kilos. Weeks 5 & 7 in orange.
ATF Squat
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x3, 110x2, 125x1, 135x1, 135x5x5
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x3, 110x3, 130x2, 140x5x5
20x10, 30x10, 60x5, 90x3, 120x3, 130x1, 145x5x5
Bench
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 85x5W, 95x5W, 105x5W, 115x5W, 125x5W, 85x10 for 2 sets NN
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 85x5W, 95x5W, 105x5W, 115x5W, 127.5x5W
20x10N, 40x8S, 60x5W, 85x5W, 100x5W, 110x5W, 120x5W, 130x5W
BB Row
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 90x5, 105x5, 115x2 + bits
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 90x5, 105x5, 112.5x5
20x10, 60x5, 75x5, 90x5, 105x5, 115x5
 
Thanks. I have a very long-held goal of three plates for a triple and it's looking very likely that I'll get it before this whole program has run its course. Getting three plates for five would be a nice bonus.
 
blut wump said:
I'd have put the neoprene knee-tube on but it was already in use on the other knee.
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lol. I have the same problem with my elbow sleeve. Sucks when your bad elbow all of a sudden becomes your good elbow because your other one hurts worse :chomp:

Anyway, congrats on pushing through 2 consecutive volume phases. I have a feeling you're going to blow up the next few weeks, should be fun to see.

BTW, I have no idea how you make it through the last week of volume in under 2hrs - a trooper indeed.
 
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