being GAY.

[musclebrains]

Ryan,

i can't rebut it....nor would I want to. I don't disagree.

But somepeople, when faced with hatred or rejection, find a way to channel it into success in some way - they become extremely hard workers as an escape, and succeed, or they hide themselves in their creativity and become famous (Freddie Mercury?).

Yet so many do not. Any idea as to why?

It takes one person, literally, to demonstrate love to a kid in that circumstance and make a difference -- one person to see who he is and say he's lovable. My grandmother was that person for me. Those who kill themselves usually have fallen so deeply into the hatred that they can't speak the truth aloud to anyone or fate has set them in cirucumstance where there is nobody to hear them.

 

[Warik]

In short, do people realize what gays must often live with? The stereotype of having AIDS. The stereotype of being sexually promiscous. The stereotype of doing drugs every weekend. Moreover, being disowned because of the one thing you can never change------YOUR SEXUALITY-----just like your eye color, there...it will always be.

Straights and gays alike have to live with equally or more difficult things for the rest of their lives. Being stereotyped based on one's homosexuality pales in comparison to something like a large family living in a 2 bedroom apartment whose head of household works 2 low-wage jobs.

The stereotype of having AIDS?

At the end of 2000, 46% of reported AIDS cases involved homosexuals.

Being sexually promiscous?

Please... I don't need to touch this one. Homosexuals, typically are as promiscous as one of them teen-whores you see on those talk shows.

Doing drugs every weekend?

Many Americans in general do drugs every weekend... hardly an unfair stereotype, unless most American homosexuals aren't American.

I honestly don't care as long as I don't have to be subjected to witnessing any acts of homosexuality or flagrant displays of flaming gayness (i.e. tight pink shirts with limp wrists and a nasty liTHHHHHP), but I wish you'd stop crying about it. Wahhh homosexuals are stereotyped! How many times do I have to say it?

Most, if not all, stereotypes are based on truths!

-Warik

 

[Warik]

I would love to see someone offer a good rebuttal to this statement.

News Flash: Suicide is optional.

-Warik

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Re: Re: being GAY.

At the end of 2000, 46% of reported AIDS cases involved homosexuals.


-Warik

But only 0.5% of new cases are contracted by homosexuals. The fastest growing group in the US is straight black males.

So before you advance a stereotype that has undoubtedly caused many to have irresponsible/unprotected sex, get your stats in line.

 

[RyanH]

I spent the first five years of my newspapering career in small and mid-sized cities and I was always surprised by the tolerance of gay people in those environments. Indeed, my own nature felt far more supported in the small town where I was born than in the large cities to which we later moved.

Surely, it would be more isolating for a gay teenager living in Mississippi as opposed to one living in New York --since those living in rural areas are probably exposed to gays far less, thus effecting the way one might regard gays.

I would also think that there would be greater religious pressures in rural southern areas. (i.e. dealing with Southern Baptists).

 

[musclebrains]

Re: Re: being GAY.

Most, if not all, stereotypes are based on truths!

-Warik

True, there's the stereotype of the dumb kid with very little experience in the real world who thinks he knows everything but knows practically nothing.

 

[RyanH]

Warik, do you realize how much of Africa and now China is being overwhelmed by the AIDS virus, both men and women, mostly straight? AIDS is spreading like wildfire, people are keeping their head in the sand, and your are amongst those.

 

[wyst]

Re: Re: being GAY.

I honestly don't care as long as I don't have to be subjected to witnessing any acts of homosexuality or flagrant displays of flaming gayness (i.e. tight pink shirts with limp wrists and a nasty liTHHHHHP), but I wish you'd stop crying about it. Wahhh homosexuals are stereotyped! How many times do I have to say it?
-Warik

Warik, you are a fucking idiot. Everyone else was at least expressing reasonable views, regardless of opinion, and you have to come along and spread your crass, "iggerant," vile, hate, lowering the level and the aggregate IQ with it?

Why should you get to decide who wears what? And, by the way, your ignorance is showing. The only homosexual I've ever know (and I've known a great many) who acts like that is Jack on Will and Grace, and he doesn't really. The sterotype that you are basing your gay-panic fears on barely exsits in most of the world.

How dare you invade a thread talking about the issue of this poor guy worrying about his dead friend with your juvenile BS that you are only saying to get a rise out of people. What a sad little life you must lead to need to antagonize people just to get your pathetic little jollies.

Wyst

 

[wyst]

News Flash: Suicide is optional.

-Warik

Man, I hope your steroids make you sterile so that your complete lack of empathy isn't inflicted on any children.

Wyst

 

[musclebrains]

Surely, it would be more isolating for a gay teenager living in Mississippi as opposed to one living in New York --since those living in rural areas are probably exposed to gays far less, thus effecting the way one might regard gays.

I would also think that there would be greater religious pressures in rural southern areas. (i.e. dealing with Southern Baptists).

I honestly don't know but I think it's still quite rare for a gay teenager to come out in any environment. I don't generally find the condescending and genteel acceptance of homosexuality by urban sophisticates much more helpful than the tortured attitudes of families in the sticks with kids who come out to them. In such situations, the kids often know they are loved.

On the ohter hand I have worked with MANNNNNNNNNY gay men whose primary suffering was caused by their childhood churches.