heh heh, yeah, wrote that wrong - basically meant you shouldn't be releasing until the foot is down (watch little league kids and you will see a suprising number doing shit like that).
as for leg kick - I was saying for speed - not for getting guys off the base.
you name one dude that doesn't do it, but I'm sure you can name 50 guys that do do it.
and I'm confused, you were in the pros and you never threw a football to warm up? coaches had us doing that all the time - fuck - there is even a fucking upper deck shot of nolan ryan (who I still maintain is little) throwing a football.
anyway, not gonna argue with you, you obviously know moreif you were in the pros - I was just trying to recall what the better pitching coaches used to tell me.