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Barack Obama says, "...typical white person."

Obama is a typical black person. He has done drugs, he got into Harvard on a bogus affirmative program, and he plays the race card.

Is what I just said racist? I think so.

But if Obama says something racist, or hangs out with racist people, (for virtually his entire life), everyone has a million excuses on why he is justified in doing so. Obama is a saint in fact. Not a racist bone in his body. Not a racist member in his church. Yeah right.

If anything, all of these racial issues that have popped up have totally undermine his credibility.

He gives speeches on unity and brags about being able to bring the races together but everything he has done, throughout his entire politic career, has done nothing but cater to one race. He is not brining people together. He has never brought people together. I do not see why people are so foolish to bow down to this clown. All because he can give a good speech - speeches he has someone else write for him.
 
Dial_tone said:
So, despite the fact that he's half white, people are stereotyping him to be just like any other black person? Thanks for making my point.
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Obama himself, in his own words, in his book "Dreams of My Father", states he does not identify with whites. People are not "stereotyping" him, he created this image all by himself.

Please tell me that these quotes from Obama's book "Dreams of My Father" are not racist.

“I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”

“There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.”

“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”

“To admit our doubt and confusion to whites, to open up our psyches to general examination by those who had caused so much of the damage in the first place, seemed ludicrous, itself an expression of self-hatred.”

I could list more but no matter what comes out, Obama supports will claim that none of the above is racist and Obama is a saint. He can do no wrong.
 
jnevin said:
No double standard. White people are all a little racist. We all owned slaves. Even my family did. And I'm the first one born in America.
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What? Only a small percentage owned slaves and they were all very wealthy. My family never owned slaves. The rich white men bought slaves from black men. I love black people, just not the ones that hate you no matter what.
 
Army Vet said:
Obama himself, in his own words, in his book "Dreams of My Father", states he does not identify with whites. People are not "stereotyping" him, he created this image all by himself.

Please tell me that these quotes from Obama's book "Dreams of My Father" are not racist.

“I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”

“There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.”

“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”

“To admit our doubt and confusion to whites, to open up our psyches to general examination by those who had caused so much of the damage in the first place, seemed ludicrous, itself an expression of self-hatred.”

I could list more but no matter what comes out, Obama supports will claim that none of the above is racist and Obama is a saint. He can do no wrong.
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He lived through the days of segragation.. I don't blame him for siding with the black side of his heritage.
 
Army Vet said:
Obama himself, in his own words, in his book "Dreams of My Father", states he does not identify with whites. People are not "stereotyping" him, he created this image all by himself.

Please tell me that these quotes from Obama's book "Dreams of My Father" are not racist.

“I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”

“There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.”

“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”

“To admit our doubt and confusion to whites, to open up our psyches to general examination by those who had caused so much of the damage in the first place, seemed ludicrous, itself an expression of self-hatred.”

I could list more but no matter what comes out, Obama supports will claim that none of the above is racist and Obama is a saint. He can do no wrong.
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So, it sounds like he wants another Soviet Union and a country full of broken families if he is elected. Just the person to lead our country (into the toilet).
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
So, it sounds like he wants another Soviet Union and a country full of broken families if he is elected. Just the person to lead our country (into the toilet).
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Dude the toilet needs to be flushed already.
I don't care who the the next pres no one can get us out of these hard times
Only time can do that ,like it always does .

Doubt obama wants to turn the usa into the USSR more like he wants to bring home the troops and stop huge spending over seas and spend the money on americans

thats what I get from his speechs and he wants to prob bang a few white chicks on the side
 
Army Vet said:
Obama himself, in his own words, in his book "Dreams of My Father", states he does not identify with whites. People are not "stereotyping" him, he created this image all by himself.

Please tell me that these quotes from Obama's book "Dreams of My Father" are not racist.

“I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”

“There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe, and when it came to hanging out many of us chose to function like a tribe, staying close together, traveling in packs,” he wrote. “It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.”

“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”

“To admit our doubt and confusion to whites, to open up our psyches to general examination by those who had caused so much of the damage in the first place, seemed ludicrous, itself an expression of self-hatred.”

I could list more but no matter what comes out, Obama supports will claim that none of the above is racist and Obama is a saint. He can do no wrong.
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Damning. Valid points.
 
Well, Obama is the "words matter" candidate since we can't judge him on an extensive senatorial initiatives or votes. He made a very poor choice of words he might want to stick with prepared statements when it comes to certain issues. In his speech I think it was a mistake to single people out like his grandmother and equate Geraldine Ferraro's statements as equivelant. He had to denounce the reverand but he turned the speech into a balck-white issue. He should have said that all races needed to have a dialog and some inspiring words that claim that is the only race will become an issue of past.

Likewise, he made race a black and white issue with his comments in the interview. What about all the other racial tensions in America? A uniter would be inclusive about a racial dialogue.

Here's a hypothetical, 70 year old white grandmother.
A "stereotypical" white Hell's Angel or a black businessman in an armani suit talking to his stockbroker on a cell phone, which will cause her more fear?

PS I have a suspicion that Obama's speech writers have a sentence generating program that generates sentences with the words hope and change. Then they add the line, "I was against the war in Iraq from the beginning." It's convenient since he didn't have to make that initial vote. Had he been in the Senate there probably would have been 4 no votes as opposed to three. :)
 
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75th said:
I just think he is in no way, shape, or form fit to lead this nation.
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How so, and which other candidates that ran do you feel were unqualified?

Do you feel JFK was qualified? Do you think Hillary is qualified?
 
Army Vet said:
Please tell me that these quotes from Obama's book "Dreams of My Father" are not racist.
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He is being candid about the fact that he struggled with the race issue while growing into the person he has become. He similarly was very honest about his drug use.
 
rnch said:
lh, since u r an ardernt conservative GOP supporter why are you defending obama, a liberal democrat? because he is a free man of color? sounds kinda racist/unitist to me....
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I am curious as to why longhorn seems to sound like a Barack supporter now as well. Although I don't think it has anything to do with his skin color/racist/etc., just by having read longhorn's posts in the past. I suspect he may be playing a bit of devil's advocate perhaps?
 
ceo said:
I am curious as to why longhorn seems to sound like a Barack supporter now as well. Although I don't think it has anything to do with his skin color/racist/etc., just by having read longhorn's posts in the past. I suspect he may be playing a bit of devil's advocate perhaps?
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A lot of folks around here are jumping on the bandwagon that he is unqualified, racist, etc. I don't agree with that, and I am picking apart those arguments.

I have not changed my political stripes but if Barack Obama keeps Hillary from getting the nom he will be one of my heroes for life.
 
Longhorn85 said:
How so, and which other candidates that ran do you feel were unqualified?

Do you feel JFK was qualified? Do you think Hillary is qualified?
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Of the current lot, I think that McCain is the most qualified, followed by Hillary.

I dont agree with the majority of either of their politics, so I wont vote for either of them.

I do understand that a POTUS does not necessarily have to have a lot of experience, and that it is important that they have an ability to plain bring people together (JFK).

I would say we should all try to convince Colin Powell to run.
 
biteme said:
He lived through the days of segragation...
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unless he is 30 years older than his bio states i seriously doubt this.
 
biteme said:
What? Only a small percentage owned slaves and they were all very wealthy. My family never owned slaves. The rich white men bought slaves from black men. I love black people, just not the ones that hate you no matter what.
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Again, sarcasm. And whites didn't buy slaves from blacks. They bought them from Spaniards.

My family never owned slaves. They're off the boat Irish, I'm the first born here. I was being sarcastic because no matter what, all whites seem to get the slavery card used against them. It's fucking stupid and pathetic.
 
jnevin said:
Again, sarcasm. And whites didn't buy slaves from blacks. They bought them from Spaniards.

My family never owned slaves. They're off the boat Irish, I'm the first born here. I was being sarcastic because no matter what, all whites seem to get the slavery card used against them. It's fucking stupid and pathetic.
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actually i think the whites bought slaves from arab slave traders.
it's funny how much black peeps dick ride muslim culture, when muslims have been pwning africans for centuries before north america was ever established
 
Bino said:
actually i think the whites bought slaves from arab slave traders.
it's funny how much black peeps dick ride muslim culture, when muslims have been pwning africans for centuries before north america was ever established
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Maybe Spain was buying them from Moores, I dunno. I do know Spain had a big part in it. I really don't care. I've just never seen so much bitching about anything that actually improved a situation down the road as this. Dwelling on the past and using something that didn't happen to you as a crutch is really positive.
 
jnevin said:
Maybe Spain was buying them from Moores, I dunno. I do know Spain had a big part in it. I really don't care. I've just never seen so much bitching about anything that actually improved a situation down the road as this. Dwelling on the past and using something that didn't happen to you as a crutch is really positive.
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lotsa irishmen brought here on indentured slavery contracts
ireland was britian's slave walmart for centuries...yet this gets zero plublicity stateside
maybe it happened too long ago?
 
Bino said:
lotsa irishmen brought here on indentured slavery contracts
ireland was britian's slave walmart for centuries...yet this gets zero plublicity stateside
maybe it happened too long ago?
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They were basically slaves to build the railroads along with the Chinese. Neither gets much said about it in history books. They usually lived in worse conditions than slaves did, and thousands were murdered and raped during the whole thing. But they were Irish and Chinese. No big deal, noone feels entitled to a thing. I don't get it. Look at the history of the Irish in America. They were treated like filthy animals and illustrations portrayed them as little gremlin looking people. Again, I don't see the Irish whining about a goddamn thing a couple hundred years later.
 
jnevin said:
They were basically slaves to build the railroads along with the Chinese. Neither gets much said about it in history books. They usually lived in worse conditions than slaves did, and thousands were murdered and raped during the whole thing. But they were Irish and Chinese. No big deal, noone feels entitled to a thing. I don't get it. Look at the history of the Irish in America. They were treated like filthy animals and illustrations portrayed them as little gremlin looking people. Again, I don't see the Irish whining about a goddamn thing a couple hundred years later.
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True, but to be fair the Irish are still white and in the majority. Would they whine if they were black is the question.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
True, but to be fair the Irish are still white and in the majority. Would they whine if they were black is the question.
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This doesn't really make sense.
 
jnevin said:
They were basically slaves to build the railroads along with the Chinese. Neither gets much said about it in history books. They usually lived in worse conditions than slaves did, and thousands were murdered and raped during the whole thing. But they were Irish and Chinese. No big deal, noone feels entitled to a thing. I don't get it. Look at the history of the Irish in America. They were treated like filthy animals and illustrations portrayed them as little gremlin looking people. Again, I don't see the Irish whining about a goddamn thing a couple hundred years later.
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Typical Irish person, when they aren't drunk they're complaining about having to work. :) This isn't racist because my ex-wife is half irish and I can talk about her. :rolleyes:
 
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javaguru said:
Typical Irish person, when they aren't drunk they're complaining about having to work. :) This isn't racist because my ex-wife is half irish and I can talk about her. :rolleyes:
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We should stick to getting drunk, fighting, and impregnating our wives.
 
Bino said:
i know it did
but the whole obama is a racist theme is getting old to me.
fug i can't escape it...it's everywhere, online, at the grocery, at the gym, everyone seems to have an opinion.
this has gotta bode will for the gop
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Even at the local gay bar? Come on now dude...tell me you're not hearing it there too.





:p
 
Stoßtruppe said:
Interesting. What would US EFers say to that? Would he make a decent POTUS? Reasons why and why not?
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compared to the current temporary occupant of the white house and the news media already elected slum lord lawyer mouth piece obama....hell yes! CP would be a distinct improvment!! :artist:
 
javaguru said:
My ex-wife rarely drank, was a workaholic, and didn't have much of a temper.
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I do drink too much. But I work around 10 hours per day and don't have much of a temper.
 
rnch said:
compared to the current temporary occupant of the white house and the news media already elected slum lord lawyer mouth piece obama....hell yes! CP would be a distinct improvment!! :artist:
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What is his government CV? What impression would a typical American (:D) that takes an active interest in politics and what not have of Powell? Has he had significant public roles for people to have an idea of his politics, ethics, beliefs etc?
 
jnevin said:
This doesn't really make sense.
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It's a racial issue, not a cultural one. Blacks are a minority race of society. Irish (being white) are not. So the fact that Irish don't whine like blacks has little bearing unless they were in the minority like blacks, or instead of blacks.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
It's a racial issue, not a cultural one. Blacks are a minority race of society. Irish (being white) are not. So the fact that Irish don't whine like blacks has little bearing unless they were in the minority like blacks, or instead of blacks.
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It is a cultural issue. The Chinese don't dwell on the past and bitch about it. I don't see blacks from the islands or Africa bitching. It's the African American culture, not the color of the person. Being mistreated is being mistreated. Everyone has to put the past behind them and move on. Otherwise you just stay in the same shitty situation.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
It's a racial issue, not a cultural one. Blacks are a minority race of society. Irish (being white) are not. So the fact that Irish don't whine like blacks has little bearing unless they were in the minority like blacks, or instead of blacks.
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Back when I was attending Ohio State there was a huge brawl in the minority student union because the African-Americans wanted to take more space from the Native Americans because their suffering was greater and they had more to overcome. You also don't see latinos playing the race card in the same African Americans do it. They don't seem to have a hispanic Al Sharpton.
 
javaguru said:
Back when I was attending Ohio State there was a huge brawl in the minority student union because the African-Americans wanted to take more space from the Native Americans because their suffering was greater and they had more to overcome. You also don't see latinos playing the race card in the same African Americans do it. They don't seem to have a hispanic Al Sharpton.
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Bullshit. The African-Americans never had a whole continent taken away from them.
 
Longhorn85 said:
A lot of folks around here are jumping on the bandwagon that he is unqualified, racist, etc. I don't agree with that, and I am picking apart those arguments.

I have not changed my political stripes but if Barack Obama keeps Hillary from getting the nom he will be one of my heroes for life.
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I think he is unqualified, and I think he's more liberal than Hillary. You obviously do not agree?
 
jnevin said:
It is a cultural issue. The Chinese don't dwell on the past and bitch about it. I don't see blacks from the islands or Africa bitching. It's the African American culture, not the color of the person. Being mistreated is being mistreated. Everyone has to put the past behind them and move on. Otherwise you just stay in the same shitty situation.
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In America it's a race issue. Just ask any righteous black person. Simply put, we have created a culture of racial inequities.
 
Stoßtruppe said:
Interesting. What would US EFers say to that? Would he make a decent POTUS? Reasons why and why not?
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I'm for condi rice
romney-rice
 
biteme said:
He lived through the days of segragation.. I don't blame him for siding with the black side of his heritage.
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He was post segregation. He went to Harvard in 1990 not 1960.. He wrote this book at that time.
 
ceo said:
I think he is unqualified, and I think he's more liberal than Hillary. You obviously do not agree?
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I think he and Hillary are both hopelessy liberal, but I think Obama is more honest about it.

I respect Obama's character, Hillary, not so much.

They are both clearly qualified to be president according to the constitution and according to precedent.
 
Longhorn85 said:
...I respect Obama's character...
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20 year close assocation with a hating, racist preacher...flip flopping or no opinion on important issues....slum lord lawyer...unity in action, racist bheavior and associations during college....WTF is there to admire?? :worried:
 
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Army Vet said:
He was post segregation. He went to Harvard in 1990 not 1960.. He wrote this book at that time.
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thank ya! glad SOMEONE here can add and recognize historical events.
 
The Republicans fucking Pwoned us again... Another 4 years of Repub!
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
Dem's do have a way of snatching defeat from the hands of victory - lololol.
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and that counts for a lot
from the mangled fla-mich primaries to the "in case their too stupid to vote right" super-delegates the dems have a super fouled up election apparatus

and you want them in charge?
 
Regardless of which dem wins the nom, they will have a hard sell in Michigan and Florida after Howard Dean's DNC blew them off in the primaries.

McCain and the RNC will exploit the hell out of that.
 
Face it. Were all typical and boring. Life is a big cliche.

There comes a time in a sons life that he realizes his father was right. About that same time, that father has a son who thinks he is wrong.
 
Someone in the beginning of the thread stated that all whites are a little prejudgist (or was it racist?) anyway I think that we are all prejudgist to an extent. Let's face it, we are most comfortable (in general) with people most like us.

Is it a double standard? Yes, but for some reason I far less offended (actually, I'm not offended at all) by Obama's remark. Maybe because I can relate to his point (I had a white grandfather just like that). Or maybe because it seemed like less of an attack on a particular group.
 
just...v said:
Someone in the beginning of the thread stated that all whites are a little prejudgist (or was it racist?) anyway I think that we are all prejudgist to an extent. Let's face it, we are most comfortable (in general) with people most like us.

Is it a double standard? Yes, but for some reason I far less offended (actually, I'm not offended at all) by Obama's remark. Maybe because I can relate to his point (I had a white grandfather just like that). Or maybe because it seemed like less of an attack on a particular group.
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I think the word you're looking for is "prejudiced"...
 
just...v said:
Someone in the beginning of the thread stated that all whites are a little prejudgist (or was it racist?) anyway I think that we are all prejudgist to an extent. Let's face it, we are most comfortable (in general) with people most like us.

Is it a double standard? Yes, but for some reason I far less offended (actually, I'm not offended at all) by Obama's remark. Maybe because I can relate to his point (I had a white grandfather just like that). Or maybe because it seemed like less of an attack on a particular group.
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I hate people like me.
 
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