Back from Egypt

[mokhtarsayed]

PAT. Your post was very offeneding. But after what the good bros said in response, there's not much to be added. And CPA, I don't think you did your country good enough with your words.

Only the very touristic place in Egypt are spoiled, and that's exactly what affected them. Tourism. The locals just want to get a quick buck off the tourists, and while that's bad, it's understandable when you know how little money and opportunities they have access to. Poverty is not a decent thing. Foreigners who live in Egypt find the Egyptians kind, courteous, generous and helpful. And even tourists, when they don't have an attitude, get to sample the true nature of the Egyptian people.

Thanks to all the bros that understand the nature of Third World Countries. It's not an ideal place to live in, but I'm sure the Western world has many shortcomings as well. So PAT, don't go ahead and give a country a bad name just because you couldn't cope with it. I have many friends who came here, and still dream of the day they can visit again.

 

[The Iron Game]

Good to see you jump on in here mokhtarsayed. Which part are you from?

 

[Pat Mycroch]

I didn't mean for my post to be offensive to anyone, I just wanted to share my experiences and help others enjoy there vacations more than I did. I never said that all Egyptions were bad. There is a right and a wrong way to do business and what I saw in Cairo was the wrong way. You guys have absolutly no idea what it's like. People on the street will just grab you by the arm and start taking you somewhere you don't know expecting "baksheesh" afterwards. When I was at Giza, When I took my money out to pay for a camel, the guy took money out of my hand before I even knew what I had given him. The "surprise" I was referring to at the KFC is this 10-12 year old kid handing out towels when your done washing your hands. Once you start to walk out he'll block the door and not move until you give him money. The kid practically reached in my pocket to get money. I understand that he is just trying to make a living, but that is definatly not the right way to do it. I talked to many other tourists and they all shared my sentiments.

 

[bigpun]

There is a right and a wrong way to do business and what I saw in Cairo was the wrong way. You guys have absolutly no idea what it's like. People on the street will just grab you by the arm and start taking you somewhere you don't know expecting "baksheesh" afterwards. When I was at Giza, When I took my money out to pay for a camel, the guy took money out of my hand before I even knew what I had given him.

That's the way business is done in alot of countries bro. I realize that the experience is not like what you'd see here in BC but in alot of nations, the piper plays a much different tune. I'm surprised you haven't seen more of what you did travelling in other countries, especially where tourists are abundant. If you didn't like the scene near the pyramids, don't even consider the Taj Mahal in India. People are almost throwing you into their taxis and into their shops to get your money. In countries where the population is much higher and living conditions are lower, you have to do what you must to put food on the table. Western business manners are not of their concern. It's not worse than here, just different. Plus, it has it's advantages also that you can't enjoy in western countries, like the ability to access many more goodies (incl. gear) if you have the $$, and the ability to negotiate the price on just about anything. Try doing that at the local Sears.

 

[mokhtarsayed]

You know what else you missed PAT. The local food. I can't imagine travelling all the way from America just to eat at the CFK! You should have tried the Kaware' and Lahmet ElRas. Great stuff. Too bad your vacation wasn't good. And too bad you didn't make any friends here, they would have made it more enjoyable. Anyway, hope you enjoy your next vacation in Hawaii or Cyprus. I guess there are many countries closer to some tourists' taste.

Thanks Iron Game. I'm from upper Egypt. I'm a "Sa'idi".

Where are you from?

 

[Retabolil2]

I`ve been there also and yes everybody there wants your money. I don`t want to offend egyptians but they should change their attitude to the tourists. I`m not from a rich country and I don`t care how rich egyptians are. I`ve seen tons of gold in Hurghada and shit around the roads near these shops. Very strange country.
The sea is beautyful however and from my experience its the best sea I have ever seen.
I`ve been in Luxor also. It was very interesting and some people were friendly but most of them are just greedy I guess.

 

[basskiller]

All of you cutting on the USA because of one dumb fuck from CANADA ....YOU"LL CAN KISS MY ASS

Apparently some of you have a problem with the USA to be so quick as assume that PAT is from here....

For all that don't know there is a border between USA and Canada


I really don't care where anyone is from.. ignorance is ignorance.....

 

[BigGuns2]

I am from America and vacationed in Egypt 4 years ago. It was one of the BEST vacations I have ever had. The people could not have been more friendly. I did not like the camel jockeys at all. Neither do most Egyptians. You cannot judge a whole country by your experience with them. I would go back to Egypt in a minute. I'm sorry that you had a bad time. As to everyone wanting money, that's just the way it is in most 3rd world countries. If you ask someone for help and just give them a dollar they will go out of their way to help you and see to it that you find what you are looking for.

 

[The Iron Game]

Thanks Iron Game. I'm from upper Egypt. I'm a "Sa'idi".

Where are you from?

lmao

you have a pm

 

[basskiller]

Big Guns, I agree with you about giving someone a dollar or two for a little help.

For all others...... Some of these people ,that how they earn a living, jobs are not as plentiful as in other countries.....

Is there no compassion in your heart or what...


peace,
bass