"Assisted" Vs. Natural Training

[jeremys]

I can't believe you totally missed what I(and others) was saying.
I think this thread has officially become a waste of board space.

Sorry jeremys

i didn't start this thread. just all the other highly controversial ones

 

[Thaibox]

Sorry j. I thought we were still on the other one that turned to doo-doo.

 

[jeremys]

Sorry j. I thought we were still on the other one that turned to doo-doo.

lol theres at least 2 other ones

 

[bigguns15]

I'm not sure I buy this whole "reaching your genetic potential." Of course I could be wrong, I train primarily for strength and not size. I've been training 8 years and have not stopped gaining, nor do I see an end to my gains. Would AAS help me gain more? Heck yes, I'm sure they would. But what if I were able to do the same thing naturally? That's what I'm shooting for, and I'll achieve it

 

[Thaibox]

Heck yes, I'm sure they would. But what if I were able to do the same thing naturally? That's what I'm shooting for, and I'll achieve it

Hooah...and if you maintain that attitude...you will

 

[slobberknocker]

VG, have you ever done a cycle? If not, how can you know anything about training while on steroids?


Those of us who take anabolics were once natural, so we know what it's like to train with and without steroids. And personally, if I'm not taking in massive amounts of food, and following my high intensity/low volume/progressive resistance based training, I just can't grow.

 

[Thaibox]

Slobber, neither can I, nor any of my friends that have used gear. I guess 6 years of busting my ass naturally prior to using.... busting my ass for three moderate cycles....and then busting my ass even harder 24 hours a day for the last 2 years without gear does not qualify me to debate vinylgroover with the information he has gathered from "seeing others do it."

 

[revexrevex]

Thaibox, that's only you. How about hundreds of other lifters who use steroids to make up for inadequate training. Obviously they won't grow to their full potential, but they will STILL grow a little, as opposed to if they were natural.

 

[Thaibox]

Obviously they won't grow to their full potential, but they will STILL grow a little, as opposed to if they were natural.

revex, first let me say that what you just said is absolutely correct. I am not arguing this at all. I am saying that vinylgroover is using such extremes that its silly. Vinylgroover is saying that anyone can use gear and grow like mad with totally crappy training. That's pure BS.

Also, its not only me...its my training buddies, the amateur and pro competitors and fighters I have lifted and trained with over the years, as well as several vets on this board that have supported my opinion as well.

Again, you're right. Vinylgroover is not.

 

[revexrevex]

I think all of us mis-interpreted each other.